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Bleach 581
Topic Started: May 21 2014, 07:51 PM (730 Views)
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Are you trying to insult Zed by saying he's poor because of the frugal choices he makes? Isn't that a bit rude and obnoxious?
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How could you expect anything but that? I mean, is it even "expecting" and not "knowing" at this point? And like the protagonist looking like little bitches is a given in like 90% of Mangas/Animes. . .

Bleach is bad but it looks pretty so I read it :^)
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May 21 2014, 07:53 PM
How could you expect anything but that? I mean, is it even "expecting" and not "knowing" at this point? And like the protagonist looking like little *****es is a given in like 90% of Mangas/Animes. . .

Bleach is bad but it looks pretty so I read it :^)
I guess it's only reason I really liked certain Anime like Inuyasha, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop, FMA:B. Because people like Luffy look like crap lol. But I guess you're right. Also, it could have been a number of people that appeared. Urahara, Isshin, any of the Royal Guard members but everyone's first guess was Ichigo so ehh it is his story..
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Are you trying to insult Zed by saying he's poor because of the frugal choices he makes? Isn't that a bit rude and obnoxious?
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Ichigo was the one who said it would take him about half a day to get there. Kubo intentionally skipped that half a day with some quiet hours and Renji sleeping overnight instead of drawing it out for months and months with fights taking up that time. Given the timespan that was implied it only made sense for it to be Ichigo at this point.

Isshin has no beef with the Quincy himself, he's actually friends with two of them, and his wife was even one. And he's no direct ties to the Soul Society anymore, other than his niece and nephews of the Shiba Clan who seem distant from the Seireitei anyways. No reason for him to show up.

Urahara was in Heuco Mundo, he wouldn't fall from the sky in a big flash of light. Nah, Urahara would make a much more subtle appearance or sneaky or dramatically slow.

I'm waiting for Ryuken Ishida to make some sort of appearance. Not necessarily in the Soul Society, but if the battle gets drug into the human world, I want to see him curbstomp some of these Quincies for endangering his son, or disgracing him by 'making a mockery of the Quincy powers by being so weak with them', and showcasing some bad ass complete Volstandig.
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I do agree that some fights couldve been fleshed out more (As Nodt x Rukia for example) but fights such as Kenpachi x Gremmy or Kommamura vs Bambi were dope so im looking forward to more battles.

I wanna see ichigo op mode on these hoes. I can remember when he beat all those lieutenants in seconds during the SS Arc, one of my fav moments in the series. Hoping this fight will be equally epic if not more.
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I don't think Ichigo has rereached his peak, but I think he's certainly close and no doubt will showcase new abilities. Difference between the timeskip Ichigo and the current Ichigo, I believe anyways, is that while the timeskip Ichigo was physically and spiritually stronger, he was arrogant and his power was very focused.

I believe with the duality of the new Ichigo, his laid back attitude, and the acceptance of his powers as a whole.. Fullbring, Quincy, Hollow and Shinigami, he is going to be an equally formidable foe for a new brand of enemy entirely. These Quincy will be quick work for him. He very much resembles Kyouraku Shunsui now. He acknowledges his power, and understands his ability relative to others (as demonstrated by measuring his time to reach the surface of the Seireitei; He was told an ordinary captain level would take a week, but he knew he could do it in half a day relative to that). Given that he knows where he stands, I'm certain he's not as strong as he's ever been. However, he has more potential than ever before and may supercede even the power he formerly reached, if he learns to harness his Quincy abilities through his zanpakutou.

I believe this was foreshadowed when Uryu demonstrated the ability to use his Spirit Particle Manipulation to form the arrow-sword. Seele Schneider.
He'll use this ability to overcome many of the Quincies' abilities I believe, Reishi manipulation in general anyways.
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I do have a question though since you brought up Ryuken.

Since when did Quincies stop using bows as their primary weapon? Like not one Sternritter has a bow which leads me to believe even Ryuken's abilities are not even close to theirs since he still sorta uses one. Uryu does too but since he's "Prince" I guess they'll give him an upgrade.
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May 22 2014, 03:59 PM
I do have a question though since you brought up Ryuken.

Since when did Quincies stop using bows as their primary weapon? Like not one Sternritter has a bow which leads me to believe even Ryuken's abilities are not even close to theirs since he still sorta uses one. Uryu does too but since he's "Prince" I guess they'll give him an upgrade.
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I mentioned this query before...
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Well they all do in a sense. Soken, Uryu's grandfather, was said to have taught outdated methods, like the breaking of the Sanrei glove to achieve an imperfect temporary power boost, or shooting standard arrows perhaps. Every Quincy we've seen uses some sort of projectiles, they've just advanced them to the point to add their own flare, or element, or something that sets them apart.

Think of it like any ordinary Shinigami swinging a sword, and then they unlock their Shikai and suddenly their style of attack changes drastically.

We've got the Burner Finger Guy who shoots fire blasts basically, The Masculine dude who shot star blasts, the chick who shot lightning blasts, etc. And even then with Uryu, arrows weren't the limit of his abilities. He had silver tubes that artificially enhanced his abilities, I imagine these Quincies learned to advance themselves without the need of equipment. Despite being ancient, they're far more modern than the teachings we've grown familiar with from Uryu and Ryuuken.

Ryuuken has likely perfected the ancient methods and added a bit of his own flare into it too. He's an expert Reishi manipulator, otherwise you couldn't shoot a miniature bow with one hand, that is also strong enough to put down a Menos Grande in a single shot, all the while making it look effortless.

I'm excited to see how he stacks up against the current Quincy. It's really not a matter of power, but ethics and preference of style at this point. We've seen both sides to be formidable because Ryuuken displayed a small glimpse of his power, and even Uryu after breaking the Sanrei glove, was momentarily powerful enough to put Mayuri down like a dog even with a bankai on his side.
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I think I found it.



At some point within their history, the Quincy began to distinguish themselves based upon an individual's ancestry and adopted the practice of true-breeding. Those who were descended from a long line of only Quincy and so, were thought to have a pure heritage, came to be known as Echt (純血統 (エヒト), Ehito; German for "Real", Japanese for "Pure-Blooded"; "Pure Bloods" in the Viz release) Quincy, while all others were instead referred to as Gemischt (混血統 (ゲミシュト), Gemishuto; German for "Mixed", Japanese for "Mixed-Blooded"; "Mixed Breeds" in the Viz release).In order to preserve their pure lineage, many families conducted arranged marriages between their own children and only those belonging to other pure families.




This may be the result of pure vs mixed.
Nope nvm I was wrong....again.

Quincy aren't archers. They use "Spirit weapons" which can be anything really. Quincy use to use a pendant to form a bow but weren't restricted to it. It was a prime form because hollows are poison to Quincy, the bow offered damage and safety with it's range.

So pretty much what argon said.....meh.
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Well there are still some who don't use any type of projectile.. Like Sternritter Z (Zombie control?) I mean if you call blood splashing a projectile? As Nodt? I don't see how Fear is a projectile either? Sternritter I & P are actually closed ranged fighters which isn't normal for Quincy either.. I mean even Grimmey using imagination doesn't seem so projectile to me unless you put shooting huge meteors at the Soul Society a projectile? I just feel like that whole Quincy "Spirit Archer" shit was the real shit and this Sternritter shit was just last minute rushed. It's still cool nonetheless
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I dont believe the sternritter are true quincy. They received power from Bach and this power manifested itself in ways unique to each of their personalities.
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Fear specifically was a projectile that only manifested after nodt hot them with one of his spikes.
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