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Shushin.
Topic Started: Feb 20 2014, 05:15 PM (1,436 Views)
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It is somewhat biased, 90% of suggestions are...but that 4k move has a 30s CD with hyper...its longer without trait help. Nin has much more jutsus...some with CD's almost as short as tais...and enough of them to be constantly using something. Most eles jutsus have a similar dmg average too unlike tai whos dmgs vary hugely from move to move.
Nerfing what the current passives do so that maxed distance only gives 8 tiles would be fine....but it still should be something like EP...you got a lot more EP...you get it from wars easily...ranks age...so it doesn't even hurt ele users that much if their village wins a lot of wars.
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Because it's a 4K move. Does that 4K move also deplete you of 100% chakra? 50%? 20%?
More jutsu with more CD so you can't use them as often, so the quantity doesn't matter. It's like you don't understand that Tai has short CD, even though I've stated it multiple times. What a delusional standpoint you have.

It benefits phy users a lot more in the use and cost, which they already have in their style alone. It's not a suitable change until the EP is an actual sacrifice to them. Otherwise it's just another advantage for them. At the time SP cost is balanced because it's an universal necessity. One you can currently sacrifice. Since you need this advantage so much, spend the SP.
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You keep saying tai has a short CD like Nin doesn't...and ignoring the fact that 1 ele has 2x...even 3x more moves then tai and most people by prime have 1 full ele and part of a second one. Using Tai also has a pretty big stam cost.
If anything this change would only make it so tai users would have a better shushin earlier then ele users...because theirs tons of ways to earn EP where SP is extremely hard to earn.
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It does have a short CD compared to Ninjutsu. . . You have sufficient moves to use as a Taijutsu user at any part during a fight. The stamina cost is laughable, just as your attempts of being a victim. You do this all the time. You wanted people to pity you even when you had an edited paper mode. "Please sirs. Consider the chakra cost." You'll obviously defend anything you personally use at the given time you're using it, then suggest anything to benefit it for your biased concerns.

SP is still a universal necessity whereas EP is not.
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Not to mention unlike eles you are limited to 1 tai style...where if you win enough wars you could get every single ele. All which scale off cap.
My Edited paper mode? I had it increased so I don't know what your talking about..it cost me 30% chakra per dodge. And the stam cost is laughable? Maybe the last time you played. I can use my 4 techs...maybe 2 times each before I'm out of stam...and I don't even have powerful trait. On my Momochi before the pwipe just now...using all my techs once cost me 30% of my stam.
With the amount of stam people have now...it would take 4-5 moves for 1 KO with tai if they don't have Hyper.
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If you dont constantly eat food to restore calories it is possible to run out of stamina if you have hyperactivity.

It is rare tho. Without hyper however...you better eat steaks. Cause you'll blow through your stam faster and probably wont win a fight against a real player if you have no cals.
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Your defense of your edits was a daily occurrence to Deyna and myself.
That's without calories and you can gain 2-4% stamina per second with the traits.
That's the point. Instead of needing 2 hits, you need 4. They're instant and auto aim barely cost moves. You poor victim you.
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I didn't have to defend my edits to Deyna she was edited too. and? with pure body you can do the same with reservoir.
Not to mention Chakra drain is lower just by the system thats used...because the jutsus that drain based on % only take usable chakra into account which is about 1.5k or so and dont drain on your total chakra where tai drains on your total amount of stam.
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Not to mention Chakra drain is lower just by the system thats used...because the jutsus that drain based on % only take usable chakra into account which is about 1.5k or so and dont drain on your total chakra where tai drains on your total amount of stam.
Yet you did. Constantly. Reservoir isn't health and it doesn't gain as high of a percentage.
Lol. I had to quote this in case you changed it for later. A single clan move can drain an average of 20% chakra. Five moves before you need to restore chakra that you gain much slower, and that's if you have that one trait, whereas stamina regenerates not only faster on its own, but exceeds even that with traits and items.

So is this going to continue being a topic about how you're a victim? You seem to not care about shunshin at all after I repeated "SP is still a universal necessity whereas EP is not." Once again.
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20% chakra? Are you high. Most clans moves don't drain nearly that so don't even.
you clearly have no idea how the game is now.
Pure bodys rates are almost just as fast as Hyper too I've used both.
Maybe before trying to argue you should know the material first.
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Most clan moves don't, but most clans have moves that do.
You clearly assume too much.
They aren't actually. I've used both as well.
Maybe before trying to argue you should know the material first, and assume a lot less.
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Assume? I've played Almost every clan in the game and I can think of maybe 3 moves that have a drain anywhere near that. You haven't actually played in a while, traits have been buffed and nerfed a lot in the last couple of eras.
Anyone who has used Purebody knows you almost never run out of chakra unless you live in doton armor or chakra mode or something.
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I actually have played in a while and I've played nearly every clan myself.
Pure body's regeneration is not equal or close to hyperactivity's.
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Then you're full of shit. I used Purebody on my shiroi no more then 2 wipes ago...if you count this 1 month wipe and my res was ALWAYS full before I had to recharge my chakra. The rate lowers a lot when you get KO'd a few times but so does hyper.
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I would think the overweight greasy haired kid that claims he owns a 3 story house and lesbian wife calling others full of shit is being a bit hostile. Wouldn't you?

Although circumstantial I didn't say the trait wasn't beneficial, I said it doesn't regenerate as much as hyperactivity.
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