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Kusakins
Topic Started: Feb 9 2014, 07:00 PM (2,429 Views)
Lump Dawg
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Fox
Feb 9 2014, 07:37 PM
I think the reasoning behind it is a Kusakin is subject to everything they do to you. For example, when they use Swamp guess who else is caught in the Swamp? Where as a Shiori was more along the lines of, "Use this ****ing move and stand outside of your damn mirrors."

Wood Forest is closer to a "Battle Arena" because both players are "trapped" as opposed to Mirrors.
Fox is a former Kusakin who was Kage before sagemode(and possibily swamp) was added, his post is obviously bias.
Edited by Lump Dawg, Feb 9 2014, 07:45 PM.
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still no fuuma topic huh
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bindingblade
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Fox
Feb 9 2014, 07:37 PM
I think the reasoning behind it is a Kusakin is subject to everything they do to you. For example, when they use Swamp guess who else is caught in the Swamp? Where as a Shiori was more along the lines of "Use this ****ing move and stand outside of your damn mirrors." The Kusakin is also vulnerable to your area moves where as again, the Shiori could always just leave the box.

Wood Forest is closer to a "Battle Arena" because both players are "trapped" as opposed to Mirrors.
Yup, imagine a Kusakin able to Forest+Vines+Swamp and just click to port inside of the outer walls of the forest for safety as a Shiroi would. Not a fun time.
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The only problem I see is wood spikes. They do too much damage, are instant and have a short CD. I don't know of the chakra cost, but the move has needed a nerf for a while. I don't think it should be slowed, but the damage does need a change.
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Nah Swamp was added. And I used to do the Old Ivy + Swamp combo, but that only worked on players under like the age of 20 because you were allowed to fucking Karakuri out of the god damn forest. So anything that happened inside the box wasn't relevant in a fight with a trained character. The best thing about the forest has always been the ability to spawn the trees though, even before they did damage (don't know why they do damage now. . .) cause you could pop one up and fuck people's boy pussy.
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I would Remove the sage, and make the leafs shoot only straight. They have a shit load of moves, and this shouldn't hurt the clan at all. I just think it's a small step for the clan being a little more balanced.
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bindingblade
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Fukyuu
Feb 9 2014, 07:40 PM
The only problem I see is wood spikes. They do too much damage, are instant and have a short CD. I don't know of the chakra cost, but the move has needed a nerf for a while. I don't think it should be slowed, but the damage does need a change.
Damage on wood spikes should be cap based instead of Clan passive based or Doton/Suiton knowledge.. Considering there aren't many 5/40/5 Kusakins out there as the chakra would rape quickly, it would more efficiently crack down on the 700+ vit damage max of spikes.
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That kage character of Fox's made Decca ragequit leaf, lol.

Kusakin sage mode was suggested by Hawk, so you know it's going to be stupid. Should've never been considered.
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bindingblade
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Feb 9 2014, 07:42 PM
I would Remove the sage, and make the leafs shoot only straight. They have a shit load of moves, and this shouldn't hurt the clan at all. I just think it's a small step for the clan being a little more balanced.
Sage should indefinitely be removed but Seasonal Edged Leaf Jutsu is fine as it is. Be happy that shit isn't shooting out North, Northeast, and Northwest.
Edited by bindingblade, Feb 9 2014, 07:48 PM.
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We always talk about not wasting code, but I miss those old vines. I preferred them well over the new ones.
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Lump Dawg
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Feb 9 2014, 07:51 PM
We always talk about not wasting code, but I miss those old vines. I preferred them well over the new ones.
I think they were removed because of the amount of lag it caused once katon burned it. Anyways folks would rage even harder because those vines+swamp would be a vicious combo lol.
Edited by Lump Dawg, Feb 9 2014, 07:59 PM.
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Fukyuu
Feb 9 2014, 07:51 PM
We always talk about not wasting code, but I miss those old vines. I preferred them well over the new ones.
I think the new ones are nice and all but they work a lot differently than the old ones so I don't really see why the other ones were just removed like that. New ones change the field by making it hard to navigate, old ones were a cute little DoT/Stun Chance that most of all made it hard to target each-other unless someone had a Dojutsu in which case you'd probably be at a slight disadvantage for using it. Was a super fun FFA style jutsu. . .
Edited by Fox, Feb 9 2014, 08:00 PM.
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Feb 9 2014, 07:37 PM
I think the reasoning behind it is a Kusakin is subject to everything they do to you. For example, when they use Swamp guess who else is caught in the Swamp? Where as a Shiori was more along the lines of "Use this ****ing move and stand outside of your damn mirrors." The Kusakin is also vulnerable to your area moves where as again, the Shiori could always just leave the box.

Wood Forest is closer to a "Battle Arena" because both players are "trapped" as opposed to Mirrors.
I mean Kusakins can just hue you're in this arena now i can spawn trees on u!
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Okay?
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Feb 9 2014, 07:00 PM

Needs to be nerfed Yamato wasnt even that good.
Yamato was no Kusakin or Senju. He didn't even have 5% of their power.


On topic: Fox is right, Kusakin forest is a battle arena that gives a slight advantage to Kusakins, both user and foe are trapped in it, using swamp just cancels the ability to grow trees, and you can karakuri outside or shushin quickly as you see the swamp growing or the forest raising next to you.

Dumb Otis u already op enough why you complain so much
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