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| Twist | Apr 28 2013, 01:33 PM Post #16 |
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Cissnei <3
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What do you mean by grounded plot? Shit, I could say Pokemon has more grounded plot than Heavy Rain because the plot of the world expands for entire continents. Heavy Rain's plot was okay, if you don't count the stupid red herrings and loopholes in it. All it had going for it was the "noir" feel or whatever and that shit was gay. |
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| skull | Apr 28 2013, 01:39 PM Post #17 |
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I'm not so sure you get what grounded means. Pokemon takes place in a world where ten year olds go out and travel the world, collecting monsters and pitting them against each other in battles. Heavy Rain is the story of a father who's son gets abducted. Grounded. Has a basis in reality. Why don't you go ahead and list the 'red herrings' and 'loopholes.' All I hear when people ***** about the game is claims of faults, and statements of how bad the game is, but rarely do I ever see the person make an actual argument. Go ahead pls. Edited by skull, Apr 28 2013, 01:39 PM.
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| Twist | Apr 28 2013, 01:45 PM Post #18 |
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Cissnei <3
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That's why I asked you what you meant by "grounded." Aight. All throughout the gameplay you are lead to believe (this is a red herring) that the father has some double personality disorder and that he is actually the Origami Killer. ITS SO ****ING OBVIOUS. He loses consciousness, wakes up with Origami in his hands, is a ****ing emotional wreck etc. His son is taken from him in a public park, during daylight. BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS. He just happens to have a blackout, wake up (still during the day) and all of a sudden EVERYONE is gone, and his son got abducted. Yeaaaaah. Sure. Because Scotty had time to stalk him and his son all day until he had a convenient blackout and until everyone conveniently just left. No ****ing sense. The Gay detective is good but he's just added in to make the game last longer. The girl is straight sex-appeal factor. Honestly the only reason she exists is to have the main guy bone her. Also why would the wife leave her husband and child just because "OH WELL YOU COULDN'T STOP A CAR, PUSSY" That is sooooo cheeeesyyy. You have bad taste Knight. Heavy Rain is filled with loopholes, if you can't see that then you are just a ****ing idiot. Edited by Twist, Apr 28 2013, 01:47 PM.
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| Stryke | Apr 28 2013, 01:50 PM Post #19 |
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| Twist | Apr 28 2013, 01:52 PM Post #20 |
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Cissnei <3
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My body is ready. |
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| skull | Apr 28 2013, 01:53 PM Post #21 |
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Your complaints aren't even legit complaints. There are plenty of things that could possibly be complained about, and a few loopholes I can think of off the top of my head, but the things you mentioned. Lol. The female character had her share of important parts. Complaining about her inclusion is so damn dumb. might as well complain about all minor female characters, since they're obviously only included for sex appeal, amirite? Detective had a purpose as well. Game was planned out long before development actually started, it wasn't as if they were just like 'lol this is too short, let's create an entirely new character and plot to enhance playtime.' Ethan blacks out during the evening, and wakes up at night. It's not 'all of a sudden.' You don't know what happens to him or his son throughout that time; but he's either unconscious, or not aware of his actions for at least several hours. You seriously don't think two parents losing their son is enough to drive a marriage apart? Lololololol. Smaller things than that ruin marriages. As I'd assumed initially, I really think you just didn't understand the game. |
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| Twist | Apr 28 2013, 01:59 PM Post #22 |
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Cissnei <3
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You don't even notice how pretentious you are about this. "ur complaints aren't legit!!" Ok, I see you are a master debater. That was such an intelligent reply. Why are they not legit? Because they hurt ur feelz? Why are my complaints not legit? Why did Ethan have blackouts and wakes up with ****ing Origami in his hands? How the **** did the son just up-and-left his father while he was unconscious, without asking for help? He is what, 13 years old? I'm pretty sure he is not a retard. "minor female characters" She is not a minor female character you goof. She is one of the 4 only playable characters and her only reason for existence is to be naked and **** Ethan. You are right though Knight. There ARE a lot of things you can complain about. I'm just going off the top of my head. Edited by Twist, Apr 28 2013, 02:01 PM.
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| skull | Apr 28 2013, 02:08 PM Post #23 |
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Your complaints aren't legit because they're opinionated. You can't state that a game is a bad game based on your opinion. You have every right to say that you dislike it, but that isn't what you have done. You're the one that stated that the female lead served no point apart from as a sex object. If that's how you viewed her, then no, she didn't play a major part in the game's role. The way you described her, she would function as a minor character. If you saw the main female lead as nothing as a sex device, then great for you. Again, you don't seem to comprehend the game fully though, so. He woke up with the origami in his hand one time, during the same sequence his son went missing in. That is a minor plothole, as it was never explained, so if you want to complain about that, feel free to. You aren't aware if Ethan is conscious or not during his blackouts. You also aren't aware if the killer took his son by force. There's a lot of possible scenarios, but again, it's a plothole, as it was never explained. Another possible thing to complain about. "There ARE a lot of things you can complain about. I'm just going off the top of my head." I'd love to see you list some more, apart from the ones that are brought up in every argument that somebody tries to make against the game. ;o |
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| Twist | Apr 28 2013, 02:14 PM Post #24 |
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Cissnei <3
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Knight, I said the game was bad because it had no gameplay value, no replay value. Only thing it got going for it was the plot and the aesthetics. I said the plot wasn't even good because it was just a red herring and it was filled with loopholes. You then told me "herp derp tell me where!!" I summarized how the whole thing was a red herring and I gave you examples of loopholes. I even told you how some characters are featured as "important" but they are just there for the sake of boobies. You are just being pretentious. The plot was okay, at best. You claiming it's better "than most movies/video-games" is ****ing stupid. |
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| skull | Apr 28 2013, 02:23 PM Post #25 |
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So... I'm just going to assume you can't list any more loopholes apart from those found in every attempted complaint about the game. And your argumentative ability is limited to calling anything that disagrees with you 'stupid.' Did you actually play it? Your actions can affect so much in the game, thus increasing its replay value by a very large amount. The game's plot wasn't bad. If we're throwing out opinions as facts, then the plot was, in fact, pretty great. Much better than the plot found in the majority of games. The arguments you made against the game were filled with a lot of errors. It was just bad. Claiming that Ethan blacked out during the day, and woke back up during the day. Claiming that the female lead was used as nothing but a sex object. Just curious, what game do you consider to have a good plot? Halo? Lol. Edited by skull, Apr 28 2013, 02:24 PM.
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| Twist | Apr 28 2013, 02:33 PM Post #26 |
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Cissnei <3
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Dude I haven't even read "every attempted complaint about the game". I just told you the loopholes that stand out. There was no reason for the divorce. There was no reason for the Origami in Ethan's hand, there was no reason for his weird blackouts either. There was no reason for "ghost fights" in the chick's story. I forgot it was night when he came back from his blackout. Big whoop. The point is, Knight, the plot is not great. It's cheesy in my opinion. Did you notice how you changed your argument from "the plot is great, you have bad taste" to "your opinion is just different!" There's nothing in the plot that makes it a great plot. It's just unnecessary drama that often doesn't even make sense, put together. What the most idiotic thing is, is that you said the Heavy Rain plot is so good because it's so real, when in fact almost nothing is realistic. Edited by Twist, Apr 28 2013, 02:35 PM.
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| Sakuraba, Neku | Apr 28 2013, 02:38 PM Post #27 |
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I haven't played the game, and I'm NOT bashing Knight or anyone else. But, if you had a wife and son, and your son died...would you HONESTLY divorce your wife? Think about that carefully. This is a 'just saying' post, not adding or subtracting from your debate. The game itself aside--be honest. |
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| skull | Apr 28 2013, 02:40 PM Post #28 |
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No, your opinion is still bad, don't worry. I obviously wasn't joking about that in the first place, but we go back to that comprehension issue... The things you point out are so ridiculously small. One dream sequence? The origami in Ethan's hand was unnecessary, but didn't hinder the plot in any way. Also, you used Ethan's waking up during the day as part of your argument. You attempted to make it seem like it was some ridiculously short time that he was blacked out for, and that it was unreasonable that there was nobody in the park, when it was pitch black out. I'm still curious to hear which game you consider to have a good plot. |
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| Twist | Apr 28 2013, 02:43 PM Post #29 |
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Cissnei <3
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I think you suffer from autism, Knight. Let's do baby steps for you. You agree it has loopholes. You agree it's a red herring. Right? |
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| skull | Apr 28 2013, 02:46 PM Post #30 |
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Lol. Man. Twist. You're really, really dumb. I'm sorry. Seriously. You aren't able to handle an actual discussion, and your entire argument is that it's bad based on the fact that the plot is a 'red herring.' I apologize for thinking you could manage this. When you begin to fail, all you can do is rattle off that everything else is 'stupid', 'retarded', or 'autistic.' Okay. Edited by skull, Apr 28 2013, 02:47 PM.
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