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Topic Started: Feb 22 2013, 04:51 PM (1,761 Views)
Zed
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My reason is with Vash. There are hardcore Nintendo fans plus just little children who buy Handhelds. Their sales are good regardless of how many pirate. All I do with emulators is beat the game, and delete it. I do it just so I can just say I did it.
Raikiri Iketani
Feb 24 2013, 03:02 PM
People will pay $7 for a goddamn coffee, or $200 ****ing dollars on a pair of goddamn SHOES. But they will not pay $10 for a ****ing ALBUM. And albums can last a hell of a lot longer than coffee or shoes.

In reply to this, is that the obvious difference is materialization. If you could pirate the new Jordans, I would. Trust me.

I do buy albums. I'd pirate it, and if I like it I support that artist. If I don't, I delete it. Simple. And I realize people may do the same shit to me when I drop music, and that's just how things are. People still manage to go Platinum even if their albums leak. Gaming companies STILL get billions of dollar, even if people pirate it.
Edited by Zed, Feb 24 2013, 04:44 PM.
The Griffin
 
Are you trying to insult Zed by saying he's poor because of the frugal choices he makes? Isn't that a bit rude and obnoxious?
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Raikiri Iketani
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He got enough strikes Fox. We have the technology.

Back on topic:

Nathanok, whether or not you think pirating on this topic or forum will or will not have an effect on the industry, it's that kind of thinking that causes it to become large scale. If you get one person who supports it and tells others to do it as well, it's very possible that others will do so as well. And when they do it, they may tell others, and it just keeps growing from there. So one person pirating may become 10, or 100, or even more. And that loss of profit stacks up rather quickly.
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Fal
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Everyone needs to stop with their assumptions. I know more adults that own a Nintendo DS than anyone else out there. Nintendo DS is not for "Hardcore Nintendo fans" (One of the dumbest things I've ever heard.) or "children." The people I know who own Nintendo DS are women from the ages of 17-24 and own mostly two games. Harvest Moon and Pokemon. That's it.

Stop using your petty assumptions as an excuse to do something wrong that ends up disrespecting and hurting the people that gave the content to begin with. You aren't any less of a man if you buy a handheld. Get some actual balls and show it off.
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Fox
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I am also a known fan of the Pokemon games, but I wouldn't purchase a 3DS just for the pokemon games. It does hurt the creators, but not as much because it is safe to assume that people wouldn't buy something just for 1-2 items, and they are only pirating it because of the convenience pirating brings. He is saying that if pirating were not possible not much change would be seen because some people just wouldn't buy the game console or game anyways. I can relate to that to some extent as well, because I find buying a WiiU just for idk the Zelda series as ridiculous.

I don't necessarily agree with what he is saying entirely but I do see the point he is trying to make.


I do find that if I own a hard copy/payed for it, I should be able to get a ROM as well, I think of it as an "upgrade", like modding Skyrim for example because of the things you can do with a ROM that you cannot do with the actual physical copy.

Edited by Fox, Feb 24 2013, 04:49 PM.
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Stryke
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I thought zed's reason was because its not cool.
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Raikiri Iketani
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I wonder when people will realize that the whole console war thing is bullshit. Or the "hardcore gamer" term. People who like games and play them are gamers. Adding "hardcore" to it just sounds pretentious.
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Nathanok
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There are only two scenarios here(IN THIS TOPIC DOE LOL). Either they can/have the means to buy a 3DS and the games and will not because they can pirate.

or

They can/cannot buy the 3ds and games but won't because they never had any intentions to but since there is an option to do so for free, they do.

So for you to say that they are harming the industry you must assume they are doing the first. Just like you say I'm assuming they do the latter.
Edited by Nathanok, Feb 24 2013, 04:53 PM.
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Raikiri Iketani
Feb 24 2013, 04:49 PM
I wonder when people will realize that the whole console war thing is bullshit. Or the "hardcore gamer" term. People who like games and play them are gamers. Adding "hardcore" to it just sounds pretentious.
Ah, I don't mind that. To me it is just recognizing a different degree of involvement. A casual gamer might not care too much about certain details where as someone who considers themselves as a hardcore gamer might.
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"He is saying that if pirating were not possible not much change would be seen because some people just wouldn't buy the game console anyways."
False.

"He is assuming that if pirating were not possible, not much change would be seen because some people just wouldn't buy the game console anyways."
True.

You can look at the records of everything pirated. Every time pirating increases, the actual sales decrease. I said this already. Proving customers are going to something free for convenience.

Pirating increases in music. The sales dropped significantly. Pirating increases in manga. The sales dropped by half in the region that was pirating. Half. Say you have a job. Cut your paycheck in half. Like damn son.

Now it's gaming. With your thought of "Only I do it" or "I wouldn't buy it anyway" or "It's free why bother", are all ignorant thoughts that do harm to the people you should be grateful to.
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Wow, this turned into a ****ing discussion of morals and ethics real fast.

My only though is, "These guys are most likely hypocrits. So why think twice about what they say negative about pirating."
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Fox
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Feb 24 2013, 04:42 PM
He got enough strikes Fox. We have the technology.

Lets get em tho'
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Pasuma
Feb 24 2013, 04:53 PM
Wow, this turned into a ****ing discussion of morals and ethics real fast.

My only though is, "These guys are most likely hypocrits. So why think twice about what they say negative about pirating."
This is why nobody asks what you think, Pasuma.

Oh, and nice assumption. It seems that is all you guys rely on. . .
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Nathanok
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Feb 24 2013, 04:42 PM
He got enough strikes Fox. We have the technology.

Back on topic:

Nathanok, whether or not you think pirating on this topic or forum will or will not have an effect on the industry, it's that kind of thinking that causes it to become large scale. If you get one person who supports it and tells others to do it as well, it's very possible that others will do so as well. And when they do it, they may tell others, and it just keeps growing from there. So one person pirating may become 10, or 100, or even more. And that loss of profit stacks up rather quickly.
Since when did you need to spread the word about pirating? Its already out there. I never said pirating was good. I never said it didn't effect industry sales.

I SAID IN THIS TOPIC. Yet you guys keep throwing strawman arguments in my face because you cannot refute my point that in this topic, from what has been said, pirating would not harm the industry.
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Fox
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Feb 24 2013, 04:55 PM
Pasuma
Feb 24 2013, 04:53 PM
Wow, this turned into a ****ing discussion of morals and ethics real fast.

My only though is, "These guys are most likely hypocrits. So why think twice about what they say negative about pirating."
This is why nobody asks what you think, Pasuma.

Oh, and nice assumption. It seems that is all you guys rely on. . .
IDK, I disagree because whenever you ask Pasuma what he thinks he some how connects it to you wanting to suck his dick or something :/

There is someone who has been pointed out as a hypocrite, Argon, after all though. . .
Edited by Fox, Feb 24 2013, 04:59 PM.
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Zed
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Stryke
Feb 24 2013, 04:48 PM
I thought zed's reason was because its not cool.
"Cool" is a state of mind. I manage to have a popular social life, and still play/watch/read anime at home. Shit, I'm such a nerd in my spare time it's ridiculous. What I am saying is two things.

I'm not buying a 3DS for 1 game. That's a complete waste. Then sell it to Gamestop for ****ing $10. Never.

Also, a grown man.. with priorities. Work, College, Family, etc.. What time does he have to loaf around and carry a handheld game? Emulators are much easier to function around. You can easily multitask with it. I do all the time. Nearly everything nowadays is done through computers, making emulators perfect. You can't read business emails and look at your handheld 3DS at the same time. Which is why I said "kids" as in, people who have nothing but time for recreation.
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Are you trying to insult Zed by saying he's poor because of the frugal choices he makes? Isn't that a bit rude and obnoxious?
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