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Official Kage Elections
Topic Started: Jan 29 2013, 11:26 AM (1,934 Views)
Fal
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America wasn't replacing dictators. They were supporting rebellions, which took their own route once the support was done.

Are you kidding me? The religious wars aren't on the same scale? They're even using missiles over the conflicts. The damage that's caused by the riots and civil wars that occupy Africa baffles me how it's not called a WWIII. If this was happening in Europe, that would be the exact name of it.

Africa was colonized, but wasn't divided, from what I know of. The only divisions where from who controlled what, not what became what. Which Africa does have a lot of changes, but a lot of that is because of leaders making them become single parties. But not dividing them was intentional during colonization because of the power they could have within the nations.

Still, their problems. Are not because of the white man. I'm not going to say nothing bad happened. I'm not going to say sever impacts weren't made. But problems around the world aren't caused because white governments controlled the world and gave it back.

You can look at Asia the exact same way you look at Africa, except replace the color difference.
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Jan 30 2013, 07:26 PM
Raikiri Iketani
Jan 30 2013, 06:17 PM
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Jan 30 2013, 06:16 PM
Back on topic:

Not sure how having the best clans makes your village the best... I can't "force" anyone to make a Kets or a Hoshi....
The point is that it makes it a hell of a lot easier to be the strongest village if you have the strongest clans.
I know the "point." The point is so invalid rofl.

You act as if everyone on NFF is on the same level. You'd be surprised how many Newbies start in Rain.
The point is valid. You have an advantage having some of the best clans be in your village. The players that will be in your village will be great assets if you train them and can keep them.

And you say that Rain starts out with a lot of new players as if it's even comparable to what I've had to deal with while I was leading Sound.

You know. That place with all the Uchihas. But I didn't let Sound become the laughingstock. Instead it'd become the strongest village consistently. At least until I stopped playing and AlexZ ****ed up everything.
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Most of the conversation has become repetition.

If you oppress an area for X amount of time, they have that amount of time lost in their development. (Even though the "catchup" might be faster because of technology), this is a negative aspect.

The people doing the oppression in the past were White Governments, composed of white people.

Halting development, is a negative aspect.

In America, it can easily be said that many of the problems that occurred within the Black Community have been done because of White People.

The same connection can be made with the rest of the world. When you go into an area you have no business being in with the mind set of "Lol I can fix everything by doing everything my way" problems occur.

Going into an area that is ruled by a dictator or faction that may cause what could be considered a "Low level quality of life", although this isn't necessarily true, and then supporting a faction to establish capitalism a representation of lets say or your way of thinking causes a problem. Then when you have to go back and remove the person for some reason, they'd obviously retaliate, it has become worse. You pick the person you like to be the new ruler, or the faction you want to be the new ruler, you have done this for capitalism, you are doing it because it benefits you. When you are doing something for you, and that thing causes a problem it is your fault. If you just remove everyone, you now have a power vacuum. If they do not challenge their "owners" the quality of life essentially will be low, because it is based on selling and buying, many areas do not have the ability to support that so it becomes worse even in that situation.

In the past if someone was already in power in that region, and you then colonize it, taking over and removing them basically, and then people get you to leave, nobody is in power a power vacuum occurs and fighting begins.

A region that may have been stable before you came is now in chaos, because you came for some self centered "morale justice", or personal reason. Unless you stay and power and continue the oppression fighting will break out, and then even if you do stay fighting will break out. Then when you leave fighting will break out, until someone establishes control and the dictatorship begins again which may chance into a different system later on.

You have caused the majority of the fighting that has taken place.

This conversation can keep looping forever, so i'll grant you the winner. White People have not caused any ailments to the world.

Fable is still a terrible Kage though~
Edited by Fox, Jan 30 2013, 08:29 PM.
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What power level to become a Super Saiyan?
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You still don't understand though. You have friends. Many, many friends. Friends like Kiruzon, Udara, etc, who stayed in Sound mainly for you (maybe not Udara e.e, but you get my point). Me? Until this (past) era, I was the quintessential "random." This was my first real era. I had to make friends.

I helped people when I could, and the people I put as VC helped as they could (for the most part).

No matter how good the clans in Rain are, good players don't just spring up. And call me crazy, but I still don't understand how you can "train" anyone on NFF. Like srs. I can understand just telling someone some tips and telling them to practice. I'll admit, I wasn't very proactive.
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Fable you will never, EVER be remembered as one of the good kages of rain, NEVER.
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Jan 30 2013, 08:09 PM
Most of the conversation has become repetition.

If you oppress an area for X amount of time, they have that amount of time lost in their development. (Even though the "catchup" might be faster because of technology), this is a negative aspect.

The people doing the oppression in the past were White Governments, composed of white people.

Halting development, is a negative aspect.

In America, it can easily be said that many of the problems that occurred within the Black Community have been done because of White People.

The same connection can be made with the rest of the world. When you go into an area you have no business being in with the mind set of "Lol I can fix everything by doing everything my way" problems occur.
To be fair, there probably wouldn't even be a "black community" were it not for slavery. Perhaps there would, but it would be much smaller and much more concentrated.
John
Jan 30 2013, 08:12 PM
Fable you will never, EVER be remembered as one of the good kages of rain, NEVER.
You didn't even play when I was Kage... lol

You were banned before I even got Kage .-.

Nice job talking out of your ass though~
Edited by HerFavoriteColour, Jan 30 2013, 08:14 PM.
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Jan 30 2013, 08:12 PM
You still don't understand though. You have friends. Many, many friends. Friends like Kiruzon, Udara, etc, who stayed in Sound mainly for you (maybe not Udara e.e, but you get my point). Me? Until this (past) era, I was the quintessential "random." This was my first real era. I had to make friends.

I helped people when I could, and the people I put as VC helped as they could (for the most part).

No matter how good the clans in Rain are, good players don't just spring up. And call me crazy, but I still don't understand how you can "train" anyone on NFF. Like srs. I can understand just telling someone some tips and telling them to practice. I'll admit, I wasn't very proactive.
Kiruzon isn't my friend. lol

I had the same issues when I first started out. Still didn't change Sound becoming the strongest village.

Good players HAVE just sprung up. And you CAN train people.

Your lack of proactiveness caused your issues.
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You say it's a repetition in what's being said, then you say the same thing again. "White people picked the dictators, made them dictators and that is how they came to be."

Which isn't true at all. You never gave me one name or occurrence how this happened.

What are the conflicts in Africa?
Starvation. - Which "white governments" help. Did white governments start this? Nope.
AIDs - Which is declared fiction by their non white leaders and now AIDs leads to more deaths than most conflicts in Africa because treatment is forbidden.
Civil Wars - A civil war. Which has no white side. Is the white man's fault? Nope.

The problems that are current that are from conflict brought by "white governments" are the decolonizing/independent wars. Which is a war nonetheless. But the abundant problems that Africa has is from Africa itself. Dictators made themselves dictators. A magical white man on a unicorn didn't do that for them.
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Jan 30 2013, 05:10 PM
If you raid Rock you are a scrub . . .

Raiding Rock isn't good unless Aiichi is Kage and everyone in the village is ANBU and thinks they are hot shit.

Always best to Raid Sound/Leaf
Very much this

Only on this game would we go to real world issues, from kage elections.
wtf NFF
Edited by Pasuma, Jan 30 2013, 08:43 PM.
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Jan 30 2013, 08:22 PM
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Jan 30 2013, 08:12 PM
You still don't understand though. You have friends. Many, many friends. Friends like Kiruzon, Udara, etc, who stayed in Sound mainly for you (maybe not Udara e.e, but you get my point). Me? Until this (past) era, I was the quintessential "random." This was my first real era. I had to make friends.

I helped people when I could, and the people I put as VC helped as they could (for the most part).

No matter how good the clans in Rain are, good players don't just spring up. And call me crazy, but I still don't understand how you can "train" anyone on NFF. Like srs. I can understand just telling someone some tips and telling them to practice. I'll admit, I wasn't very proactive.
Kiruzon isn't my friend. lol

I had the same issues when I first started out. Still didn't change Sound becoming the strongest village.

Good players HAVE just sprung up. And you CAN train people.

Your lack of proactiveness caused your issues.
No, he is not your friend, but he respects you.

You did not have my issues. Lol. Not at all.

Good players don't just "spring" up. Going to bring up Xeyl? The guy's a PC gamer. Aiichi? An exception, I suppose. You say you can train people, but your proof is lacking. Very lacking.

You still have yet to talk about my issues. Because you played like... what.... a few weeks?

I'm so very sorry I'm not at your skill level Ryuuka, truly I am. I have had the neither the time nor patience to no life NFF and become great.
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Jan 30 2013, 08:58 PM
No, he is not your friend, but he respects you.

You did not have my issues. Lol. Not at all.

Good players don't just "spring" up. Going to bring up Xeyl? The guy's a PC gamer. Aiichi? An exception, I suppose. You say you can train people, but your proof is lacking. Very lacking.

You still have yet to talk about my issues. Because you played like... what.... a few weeks?

I'm so very sorry I'm not at your skill level Ryuuka, truly I am. I have had the neither the time nor patience to no life NFF and become great.
No, he doesn't. And I didn't have your issues, I had it much worse.
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How did you have it worse?

What is your idea of "starting out?"

You've been playing for how many years?

And you must really underestimate Kiruzon lol. He'd never admit it, but he does respect you (perhaps not you, Ryuuka, but your skills).
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Yeah. It wasn't Fable's fault he was a bad kage. It was the white man's for making him Kage to replace the worse Kage, Twist.
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Wow everyones bad but me ok?
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Jul 9 2013, 12:37 PM
Are you really calling out conditions as a way to insult? Just saying retarded was fine but to say autism...smh. No respect.

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