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Official Kage Elections
Topic Started: Jan 29 2013, 11:26 AM (1,935 Views)
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i.e french revolution

the entire revolution was thought of by the bourgeois



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Jan 30 2013, 06:49 PM
It is if they decide to liberate a dictator, put someone they like in power, and then have to liberate him because he was such a terrible choice lol?

White government, made up of white people ruined a lot of the world. Is that a better desc?

Showing Support by giving them all the resources to take over? Wow look at this group with no arms vs Look at this group with RPG's?

Showing Support by setting this person up in a seat of power is. Then you can always account for the assassination of people already in power?

Didn't you learn how Russia, and America did this in the Cold War????
What the hell are you talking about? What examples are you here to give? Which part in history did the United States cause the problems of Africa because they liberated a part of it to have a worse dictator take over?

At least Rage's logic was more reasonable. The problems occurred from their influence during European exploration or how some parts were completely took over.

Idi Amin. Remember him? Subjectively one of the worst dictators the world as known. How did he get power? Oh yeah, he was in control of a soldiers and weapons because he was a commander and preformed a coup.

So much white man power.

Korea? Lets look at Rage's view. The very first indication that caused them to join in war. Japan's occupation of them.

Damn man. Them white people again.



It's just too stupid to hear Jame's Bond movies being your history.


The only causes that can ever support your case are those of the rebellions. When a rebellion would occur, support would be given to cease the control of their corrupt leader. But the leader of the rebellion would become the same guy if not worse.

Which is the option "these white men" have. Either support the people so they could be ruled by another or do nothing. But that's a lose/lose. And to you that's a "White man caused this herp derp. They drugged them and gave the other people weapons and soldiers. Yep. That's my history."
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It isn't just the United States? I'm using multiple countries, ran by white governments, made up of white people.

Are you tying to say that white governments haven't had a drastic impact on Africas development?

For Africa it was European countries. Same for the Natives of America, and the South American Regions.

For America, a lot of it was done in the Middle Eastern Region. Then if you account for the White Dominated government, and the internal effects it had on other races in its own country. This conclusion is even more obvious.

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Not all whites mean ;[. Would treat you like a queen fox<33333
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Jan 30 2013, 07:00 PM
Not all whites mean ;[. Would treat you like a queen fox<33333
Nobody said all white are mean lol

Wow, being a Queen sounds nice =)))))
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Jan 30 2013, 06:59 PM
It isn't just the United States? I'm using multiple countries, ran by white governments, made up of white people.

Are you tying to say that white governments haven't had a drastic impact on Africas development?
Wrong. You're not using any government. You're being so vague you have no details.

I'm saying that white governments aren't the source of the world's problems today.
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Jan 30 2013, 07:02 PM
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Jan 30 2013, 06:59 PM
It isn't just the United States? I'm using multiple countries, ran by white governments, made up of white people.

Are you tying to say that white governments haven't had a drastic impact on Africas development?
Wrong. You're not using any government. You're being so vague you have no details.

I'm saying that white governments aren't the source of the world's problems today.
But they are the source of many problems today, because of the negative impacts they caused in the past. You are pretty much saying the past doesn't affect the present. But it does, this is pretty obvious.

What do you mean I didn't give any examples.

I have been giving examples. . . Oliver North giving guns (and friends), and the Burning Monks are two. The war on "communism", giving Opium, selling guns for prisoners of war in Africa, the Crusades, Conquistadors, Pretty much everything to do with Native Americas etc

An easy problem would be the massive hate many cultures/ethnicity have for whites. Where do you think reverse racism comes from? Yeah, let an entire race/culture etc be targeted and expect them not to have a grudge. . .Guess bad relations among people isn't a problem though.

Another would be big bad white america giving weapons to one of the factors we (now) went to "war" against?
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Jan 30 2013, 07:02 PM
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Not all whites mean ;[. Would treat you like a queen fox<33333
Nobody said all white are mean lol

Wow, being a Queen sounds nice =)))))
So it's only okay if Sasuna calls you a queen?

This is a load of crap.
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Jan 30 2013, 07:04 PM
But they are the source of many problems today, because of the negative impacts they caused in the past. You are pretty much saying the past doesn't affect the present. But it does, this is pretty obvious.

What do you mean I didn't give any examples.

I have been giving examples. . . Oliver North giving guns (and friends), and the Burning Monks are two. The war on "communism", giving Opium, selling guns for prisoners of war in Africa, the Crusades, Conquistadors etc
I'm saying people that aren't white aren't new. They've been around. They didn't sit idle by and do nothing. They didn't not start religious wars that continue today. They didn't not conquer the lands around them that affected the present they currently have. You're acting like white people took control of the world, then gave it back and is now trying to fix it all.

Oliver North did what that offended you? All you did was bring him up so I replied with supporting isn't controlling.
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Sit Idle? No, they go with them or they were probably killed, or they'd get the other team to do it.

If you are America and you finance a side, and that side so happens to be the wrong side. That fault goes to you.

If you put someone in power, that you think is good, and they aren't. The Fault also goes to you.

Even though the religious wars do not continue today, they still have an affect on the world.

Yes they did. An example of this is dividing Africa up randomly. Native Americans are affected by actions in the past. And other places are just now "catching up" because of the devastation that was caused. If something like affirmative action has to be put in place from the perspective of "they need help catching up for the stuff that happened" it is affecting us today.

Kinda

Oliver North didn't actually offend me.

But did he cause a very large dent on the world with the Iran-Contra affair? Yup.

Supporting isn't controlling, unless you are controlling the person you are supported right? You know work for us or get killed? But if that isn't enough, there is always that controlling with military might right? Agree with us natives or you go extinct, and give us all your gold while you are at it.
Not sure how you think, causing a lot of deaths doesn't impact the world today. I mean imagine if those deaths didn't happen, the world would be a lot different right?

We have Railguns, you have Muskets work for us or make your move !

You seem to lack the perception to see that massive immoral actions in the past can affect the world negatively, because what was done was negative.
Edited by Fox, Jan 30 2013, 07:33 PM.
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Jan 30 2013, 06:17 PM
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Back on topic:

Not sure how having the best clans makes your village the best... I can't "force" anyone to make a Kets or a Hoshi....
The point is that it makes it a hell of a lot easier to be the strongest village if you have the strongest clans.
I know the "point." The point is so invalid rofl.

You act as if everyone on NFF is on the same level. You'd be surprised how many Newbies start in Rain.


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Jan 30 2013, 06:17 PM
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Not sure how having the best clans makes your village the best... I can't "force" anyone to make a Kets or a Hoshi.... my fault though /foxlogic

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White man best thing happen to Africa!
Plenty of people already made those. As a Kage it is pretty much your job to keep them inside the village. You couldn't do that, you were so garbage everyone left.

You even said "Everyone in Rain keeps leaving"

Ya bish, they were leaving because of you.
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Jan 30 2013, 06:17 PM
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Jan 30 2013, 06:13 PM
No, just the whites have done it in the most extensive way. Continuing that cause bored and funny to me.
They didn't do it more extensively. They did it more because their adventures explored more, so it affected more. Blaming white people for all the problems in the world is too moronic. Especially in these modern times.
What? They did it on the largest scales. Not blaming all the problems on White People. . . Just a lot, and that's because it is true. That the Anglo Saxons, or those of that ethnic decent have caused A LOT of problems.

It isn't moronic, it is recognizing something that has happened in history.
What? People generally make with an idea of where they want there character to be. Towards the end of my reign, Rain had a huge population, more than Sound (okay, maybe not more than Sound with it's 100k Uchihas, but up there with Leaf, definitely). So not getting your point~

Imagine if the white man really had nothing to do with Africa. There wouldn't be dictators: there'd probably be just a crapload of warring tribes and such killing children and women and stuff like that. Or maybe it'd have turned into a monarchy. Either way, I think it'd be much worse.
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If you're America. And you finance a rebellion that is to rid the current corruption. And the rebellion turns into the same thing because the leader of the rebellion declares himself supreme leader in the amendments. . . That's America's fault.

Religious wars do continue today. In Africa. Over their religions. Wasn't there some sort of non white terrorist group that declared war because of religion? Oh blasted. What was that about again. . . .----------------.

Diving Africa up? What. Africa wasn't even divided. What happened to the Native Americans isn't what happened to Africa, though. Or Asia. Or most of the world.

Oh yeah. I remember how the Iran Contra affair was this thing that happened years ago and rooted the problems of Africa today. Oh wait.
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Yes, because you shouldn't have been there in the first place. If the corruption you cause is greater than what was already going on it is your fault. A dictator that is in control has stability, just because you have one doesn't mean your quality of life is equivalent to living in absolute chaos.

Religious wars on the same scale? Not even close.

Yes it was. Africa was divided when colonized. Look at all the countries in Africa going through de-colonization, imagine if that never had to happened? If you have to undo something it prolly was pretty bad right??? This is even more true if you have to actually fight what has been done to you. The people have been oppressed so bad, and got tired of it to the point they actually have to kick you out. How does not being oppressed in recorded history not affect your development. That is like saying the Dark Ages didn't negatively affect science.

What? Not everything I say is all related to one specific area.
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Who would've known that you would learn so much about History on a topic named "Official Kage Elections"?
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I elect that Jas should be removed as creator of this topic. We know what this topic is really about.

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