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Does Fire Evaporate water AT ALL!?
Topic Started: Jan 27 2013, 10:42 AM (1,558 Views)
Astor
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Katon evaporating Suiton should be really rare thing that should require really high knowledge adventage, just saying. Still, I've seen Katon staying on water long enough to deal 3/4 of its damage many times enough to say that everything is fine.

Also someone mentioned Fire vs Fuuton, this one is fine too, Fuuton is deleted by Katon with around same difficulty as Doton is by Katon.

Knowledge is a weapon.
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Astor
Jan 28 2013, 05:18 AM
Katon evaporating Suiton should be really rare thing that should require really high knowledge adventage, just saying. Still, I've seen Katon staying on water long enough to deal 3/4 of its damage many times enough to say that everything is fine.

Also someone mentioned Fire vs Fuuton, this one is fine too, Fuuton is deleted by Katon with around same difficulty as Doton is by Katon.

Knowledge is a weapon.
My 11k Knowledge can't beat a Suiton user with 2k knowledge. Just Sayin.
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Are you trying to insult Zed by saying he's poor because of the frugal choices he makes? Isn't that a bit rude and obnoxious?
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You know how they say if you dont like the heat, get out of the fukin kitchen? or somthing~

If you dont like getting beat by Suiton.
Maybe dont fucking stand inside the Water creation they make <_<?

I dont have Katon and even I know its probabaly best I draw them away from that huge lake, or that huge puddle of water they made.

Stop trying to fight on water k.
If they dont follow you when you try to lead them away. Then their smart as well.
but if they use water creation and you stay there and fight, knowing that its weakening your ability to kill them. Then you should die.

Pro Tip there, pick your fights, not your deaths.
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Jan 28 2013, 07:00 AM
You know how they say if you dont like the heat, get out of the fukin kitchen? or somthing~

If you dont like getting beat by Suiton.
Maybe dont ****ing stand inside the Water creation they make <_<?

I dont have Katon and even I know its probabaly best I draw them away from that huge lake, or that huge puddle of water they made.

Stop trying to fight on water k.
If they dont follow you when you try to lead them away. Then their smart as well.
but if they use water creation and you stay there and fight, knowing that its weakening your ability to kill them. Then you should die.

Pro Tip there, pick your fights, not your deaths.
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Are you trying to insult Zed by saying he's poor because of the frugal choices he makes? Isn't that a bit rude and obnoxious?
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Zed- But i have over 11k Knowledge in katon I should beat them.

Suiton-lolbrowhocaresiamyourweakness.
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Katon seems to do just fine damage. Take lessons from Amon and AlexZ.. more so AlexZ
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Jan 28 2013, 08:50 AM
Katon seems to do just fine damage. Take lessons from Amon and AlexZ.. more so AlexZ
Amon is Zed....Right?

which makes no sense since Amon is a water/blood bender..

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I had a katon char at the beginning of this wipe before 3-5 more wipes followed. I know how katon works against suiton. Did I complain? No, I used THE ****ING IMPACT DAMAGE and did just fine against suiton users. Wasn't perfect, but good.


Seriously, stop being a scrub and get around it...
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Great. Now i'm being judged because my choice of name.

Just because I chose the name AMON doesn't mean I wanted to be a canon character. I just like the goddamn name. >_>.


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Jan 28 2013, 09:07 AM
I had a katon char at the beginning of this wipe before 3-5 more wipes followed. I know how katon works against suiton. Did I complain? No, I used THE ****ING IMPACT DAMAGE and did just fine against suiton users. Wasn't perfect, but good.


Seriously, stop being a scrub and get around it...
Bro, you and everyone else isn't understanding. I fight suiton users ALLLLLL the time. I don't have ANY problems with fighting one. I'm just saying on the whole evaporating aspect, it needs a rework or something. Impact damage was nerfed to shit on Water.
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3 - 3.5x should be the standard for the knowledge vs knowledge.

Suiton should still be the weakness to Katon.
and so on.

Think of it like pokemon. A lvl 5 Squirtle's bubble attack should be super effective on a lvl 15 charmander. But a lvl 15 charmander's ember attack should kill a squirtle.

idk my pokemon stats may be wrong, but ya get the point. It's just we have to take into account the difficulty of training katon versus suiton. I'm pretty sure katon users have a speed advantage in terms of knowledge gain, most of katon's moves are spammable. So 3 - 3.5x sounds reasonable... 3.25x.

So both sides should be happy with this compromise! Lower'd the knowledge restrictiveness by a bit, but suiton still > katon.
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3x is the highest elemental vs elemental knowledge difference the system goes too.

Had to recode the entire system this morning when I realized I had coded the entire Elemental Vs Elemental Clash System backwards....


Should work properly now.
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Griffin just said lets compare NFF to pokemon with different levels.


Nothing at all is the same in that.
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Jan 28 2013, 03:33 PM
Griffin just said lets compare NFF to pokemon with different levels.


Nothing at all is the same in that.
Pokemon have Resistance to elements/Immunity and weakness to them..

I GOT IT.

If you get hit by a suiton and your a Katon user, the damage should be doubled, same goes with every element.
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Jan 28 2013, 03:33 PM
Griffin just said lets compare NFF to pokemon with different levels.


Nothing at all is the same in that.
You... You just... YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND!
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Jan 28 2013, 03:52 PM
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Jan 28 2013, 03:33 PM
Griffin just said lets compare NFF to pokemon with different levels.


Nothing at all is the same in that.
Pokemon have Resistance to elements/Immunity and weakness to them..

I GOT IT.

If you get hit by a suiton and your a Katon user, the damage should be doubled, same goes with every element.
except in pokemon super effective hits = 50% bonus damage
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