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Does Fire Evaporate water AT ALL!?
Topic Started: Jan 27 2013, 10:42 AM (1,562 Views)
Katon
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Jan 27 2013, 06:08 PM
I like how people are all like MAKE KATON BEAT SUITON PLS.

That's not how elemental jutsu are supposed to work. Suiton beats katon, katon beats fuuton, ect ect. Like others have said, if you're gonna get katon, you better get doton also , or know someone that does.

You don't see doton users complain when a raiton user uses raiton armor and takes no damage what-so-ever, now do you?


It's not about Katon deleting Suiton, it's about Suiton defeating Katon by just camping on freaking water creation.

Raiton Armor is somewhat BSish too. But it's way different than camping in your big ass water creation.
Edited by Katon, Jan 27 2013, 06:15 PM.
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Shinen
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Jan 27 2013, 01:00 PM
Katon is the easiest element to train.
It is not the easiest to train. It took me about 16 hours of constant nonstop katon spam while reading a katon generative scroll to get enough knowledge for blue fire.
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Zed
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My Katon knowledge.

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Now, you're telling me I don't have 4x the knowledge than Majority of Suiton users?

Also, Ash Burning Katon that you can supposedly use over water doesn't work, it deletes just as easy. [/url]
Edited by Zed, Jan 27 2013, 06:38 PM.
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Are you trying to insult Zed by saying he's poor because of the frugal choices he makes? Isn't that a bit rude and obnoxious?
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zed be ab00sing fa knowledge
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Zed, you never gave me my Nin knowledge scrolls :L

And katon, at least the user have to stay in that area, just use a bo-staff or something and knock him out of it. Raiton armor moves with the user.


Just sayin.
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Zed
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Not everyone wants to use a freaking Bo-Staff. That's stupid...
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Are you trying to insult Zed by saying he's poor because of the frugal choices he makes? Isn't that a bit rude and obnoxious?
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Raikiri Iketani
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As much as Fox hates me saying this, but the show DOES say that higher ranking (in other words "more powerful") jutsu can beat the element they're weak against, but only that. Not "equal in power". It has to EXCEED.

But we don't have a "jutsu power" or "jutsu rank" system. So that concept can be thrown out the window until it IS in, which I doubt it will ever be added in.

And there's 5 (well, including clan-only, 7) elements. If you can't deal with your element losing to the element it's weak to, then that is your problem. There are 4 other elements you CAN get. And where did people get the idea that elemental knowledge in this game was equal to how strong your element should be? That's what elemental mastery is for. It even has it in the description. A person who is super knowledgeable in katon can't expect to use Housenka and have it cancel out a ****ing ocean. >_>

Katon vs. Suiton is FINE. It's probably the most accurate anyways.
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Raikiri Iketani
Jan 27 2013, 06:54 PM
As much as Fox hates me saying this, but the show DOES say that higher ranking (in other words "more powerful") jutsu can beat the element they're weak against, but only that. Not "equal in power". It has to EXCEED.

But we don't have a "jutsu power" or "jutsu rank" system. So that concept can be thrown out the window until it IS in, which I doubt it will ever be added in.

And there's 5 (well, including clan-only, 7) elements. If you can't deal with your element losing to the element it's weak to, then that is your problem. There are 4 other elements you CAN get. And where did people get the idea that elemental knowledge in this game was equal to how strong your element should be? That's what elemental mastery is for. It even has it in the description. A person who is super knowledgeable in katon can't expect to use Housenka and have it cancel out a ****ing ocean. >_>

Katon vs. Suiton is FINE. It's probably the most accurate anyways.
Ryuuka you haven't seen Katon this era. It's the weakest element easily.

Like I just Screenshot'd my Knowledge. Mastery has a cap and mine is even over capped, and still can't be used on Suiton. Everyone saying it's fine either has Suiton or doesn't have Katon. NFF has always been biased though, so I'm not surprised.
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Are you trying to insult Zed by saying he's poor because of the frugal choices he makes? Isn't that a bit rude and obnoxious?
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Raikiri Iketani
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Which brings my original point back:

GET. ANOTHER. DAMN. ELEMENT.
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how did you get your knowledge that high anyway?
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Jan 27 2013, 07:06 PM
how did you get your knowledge that high anyway?
He has a knowledge scroll verb.
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I currently dont have katon though from when I did have it this was a constant pain, sometimes a matter of getting another elemnt solves the problem but it isnt always worth it.

If your a pure katon user and run into somone with suiton that just happens to have more knowledge than you or you dont have enough to beat their jutsu after the fight your just gonna go learn earth jutsu? Where do you plan to collect points in order to obtain it?

And even if you have left over points (assuming you have nearly everything including passives on the tree) are you really gonna waste the majority of those JUST to get the elemnt in question?
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I'm with the people saying "It beats what it beats"
You are getting made that your element is getting beat by what it's supposed to get beat by.
I dont say shit about my fuuton getting ate up by Katon.
My doton getting beat by raiton.
I do say something about my fuuton getting beat by raiton though.
Seriously should get another element
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By picking an element, you are acknowledging that there are elements that are better than yours. If you don't like it, you should:

A) Conserve EP for your weakness's weakness

B) Pick another element. Derp. Or,

C) Use other things. The same rationale that makes Doton Armor + Gen legal: use throwing weapons (or something else).
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You just don't understand that the way Suiton destroys Katon it's not fair.
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