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Suna shuriken ban plz
Topic Started: Jan 26 2013, 07:34 PM (453 Views)
Renden, Vash
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My guess to the "If its not disabled, it cannot be banned"
Is it helps Argon/Sasuna figure out what needs to be fixed/nerfed.
If a GM just bans somthing for being OP after it was recently buffed (Like Suna Shuriken and Sand whip)
Then I would think Argon/Sasuna would assume the buff was ok, since they aren't hearing about how OP it is, it needs a nerf.
Since its banned, you wont hear that at all since its not being used.
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Renden, Vash
Jan 26 2013, 10:27 PM
My guess to the "If its not disabled, it cannot be banned"
Is it helps Argon/Sasuna figure out what needs to be fixed/nerfed.
If a GM just bans somthing for being OP after it was recently buffed (Like Suna Shuriken and Sand whip)
Then I would think Argon/Sasuna would assume the buff was ok, since they aren't hearing about how OP it is, it needs a nerf.
Since its banned, you wont hear that at all since its not being used.
+1 for logic :)

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To add onto the topic.
Nui will one hit with any bind.
Kaze Gai will
Renkuudan will.
There is alot of stuff that will one hit, or dam near close one hit with a bind.
If those two moves get banned, then I personally think other moves should get banned as well.
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Nothing is banned unless disabled gais!!!
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Jan 26 2013, 11:31 PM
Nothing is banned unless disabled gais!!!
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Renden, Vash
Jan 26 2013, 10:58 PM
To add onto the topic.
Nui will one hit with any bind.
Kaze Gai will
Renkuudan will.
There is alot of stuff that will one hit, or dam near close one hit with a bind.
If those two moves get banned, then I personally think other moves should get banned as well.
I see your point however...

1) Nui doesn't 1 hit. Unless you are talking about shadow-field, that jutsu drains like a mofo, stuns the user and also you have to be within 1 tile. Not a good comparison.

2) The rest of the jutsus you mentioned are SUPERS. Those are not good examples to be compared sand shuriken.

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Sand shuriken it seems is working like kaze gai.
Sand shurikens cd is like 3 seconds....
Its meant to be a shuriken not a omfgimmakillyouin70hits jutsu.
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Yea also if your stuck in Ocean gen your pretty muched KOed....

but MEH i dont care banned or not I will assume its banned and not use does jutsus.
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Renden, Vash
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Jan 26 2013, 11:57 PM
I see your point however...

1) Nui doesn't 1 hit. Unless you are talking about shadow-field, that jutsu drains like a mofo, stuns the user and also you have to be within 1 tile. Not a good comparison.

2) The rest of the jutsus you mentioned are SUPERS. Those are not good examples to be compared sand shuriken.

Wasn't to sure of the name since I've never played a Nara, so its probabaly Shadow field. It does multiple hits, but if you bind them like some can do, shadow bind at that 1 tile mark and shadow field. Its not one hitting, but pretty much a instant KO.


What I was trying to point out, is that combain anything with a bind, its alot more stronger, OP.
Large boulder can compete with a Super as a Tai whore, an its one of the first Doton moves you learn. Its slowness is the down side to it, but combine it with a bind, and bam. Seems kiiiinda OP.

Haven't seen Sand whip, just before the buff to it. An from what Kani showed me Sand wip was doing no damage to me at all, at least noticeable damage. So it did need a buff.
Showed me Suna shuriken once, main problem seems to be is that it doesnt go away once it hits its target.
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Ok Ok. I thought that it sand Shuriken wasnt bugged. Eventhough the hit rate was high. I think I thought that the hit rate was no more than maybe 15 hits. But as I tested on NPC and actually look I find that its way more that I thought. Perhaps it is broken =\. I dont know if because its an NPC the hit rate might be more than on a normal player.
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 205.2 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 178.8 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 254.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 172.8 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 139.2 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 170.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 154.8 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 212.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 222 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 225.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 255.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 236.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 266.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 175.2 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 126 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 122.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 264 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 157.2 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 231.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 247.2 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 195.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 138 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 170.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 136.8 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 122.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 231.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 145.2 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 159.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 214.8 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 127.2 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 157.2 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 151.2 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 249.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 232.8 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 165.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 140.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 180 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 249.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 194.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 128.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 218.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 177.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 162 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 190.8 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 212.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 188.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 242.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 210 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 172.8 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 256.8 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 132 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 230.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 207.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 253.2 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 120 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 183.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the Suna Shuriken for 158.4 stamina damage!





But I do think that Sand Whip isht that bad.

Dato was hit by the sand for 136.8 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the sand for 172.8 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the sand for 165.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the sand for 157.2 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the sand for 154.8 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the sand for 140.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the sand for 157.2 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the sand for 177.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the sand for 146.4 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the sand for 151.2 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the sand for 171.6 stamina damage!
Dato was hit by the sand for 156 stamina damage!

Note that the damage on players for Sand whip is much more than what is displayed.
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would people rather have the vit hit shurikens that hit you 3 times for about 400 damage each at point blank or the stamina ones that with heavy armor you can laugh at the sabaku
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I'm sorry, I'm a taijutsu user, meaning I have a Good as Stamina and Still, I got hit by kanisaki's shurikens it OHKOed me. What the hell. Ban this shit.
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