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Taijutsu Stigma
Topic Started: Jan 24 2013, 01:07 AM (1,427 Views)
Unstoppablebeast
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Fukyuu
Jan 24 2013, 01:39 AM
Unstoppablebeast
Jan 24 2013, 01:36 AM
Right...Fallen, I don't quite understand what you wrote there.

Is that strengthening my point or...not?

Warriors don't use "energy"...kay, Taijutsu users don't quite use it either.

Mages are strongest from a distance...kay...so are ninjutsu users?
Warriors "DO" use energy. Taijutsu users don't. Warriors will either use stamina or their energy, which is the same as a mage. Taijutsu users don't have to spend either.

Mages are strongest from a distance. Games with mages have distance and they don't have handseals. Arenas are small areas compared to those scenarios. Small area with a delay on your attack while your opponent does not have one, yet does damage to the health he has 3x of and is more powerful close, while his regular attack makes it so you can't attack back.

I don't get it. How is Tai not the weakness of Nin?
Taijutsu users expend their stamina for their techniques.

Anything else?




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They have cast times you can interrupt? If you guys are really having this conversation right now. . .
Edited by Unstoppablebeast, Jan 24 2013, 01:42 AM.
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End game ninjutsu beats taijutsu. Taijutsu becomes crap once everyone has armor and shit. There really isn't enough passives for taijutsu to make them stronger or on par with ninjutsu. I think each taijutsu style should have its own passive skill tree with different perks for each of them. You can raise the passive with EP.

Now this era I have really yet to seen a taijutsu user since they pretty much have nothing going for them, meanwhile there is a **** ton of genjutsu users this era and fuuton/suiton users.
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Fox
Jan 24 2013, 01:42 AM
They have cast times you can interrupt? If you guys are really having this conversation right now. . .

Silence spells/attacks are also found in such games as well. . .

And gap closer moves. . .
Not as the regular attack.


@Beast= They spend calories. Which is nothing at all. You can stack up how many for a good phy build again so that will enable you to use how many attacks and it only takes how many to KO a low phy character?


Taijutsus are definitely flawed in this game. The warrior clans are the fastest with silence moves? That would be so OP in any game.


There is a way to solve this. I think, anyway. I have always wanted to be a tai character. But they have few moves. And hit too hard. And the worst problem being a Tai character. . . Facing a Tai character.


I would love it if the damage was nerfed in their moves, but the CDs were reduced as well. That way they can be constant offense and go straight for the speed instead of the power. I would also enjoy it if they didn't get as much health as they do. Pie had 24k? Kanata had 25k? Legit. Reduce the stamina they gain, but perhaps raise their blocking so they take less?

But right now. Yeah, taijutsu are mainly flawed. But can be played against because of blocking, which makes it a bit boring. Since their moves are instant, it's about predicting when to block, or just always blocking.
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I suppose my only concern is this:

If you nerf taijutsu to hell, I don't care. I'll just make a nin/gen user like everyone else and be happy.

But why must I be undervalued and coined a "noob" because I use taijutsu? Apparently, it's perfectly common place to call somebody that regardless of the level of skill or thought they put into their technique.

Why is it not you, fuuton noob, that gets called that? Or you, suiton noob? Genjutsu noob, how do you deal with this?

It is only the "taijutsu" noob that gets ridiculed and called cheap for all to mock.

Also, you realize that removing the stun on handseals from taijutsu will demolish it, right? Taijutsu will be essentially useless.

Hah...you're not serious fallen? Taijutsu hits too hard?

I hit for 40~60 stamina damage per punch. Maybe 80 stamina damage per kick. That's assuming they just SIT there and take them. If they're moving, that's something else. Also, 25k stamina? Not likely. I have probably...I dunno. 7k right now? That's at age 26.
Edited by Unstoppablebeast, Jan 24 2013, 01:52 AM.
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A magical user that can one shot people across the screen would also be pretty op in any game. . .

Everything is flawed. . .

Everyone is a noob to me, all of you are scrubs. I'm the best.
Edited by Fox, Jan 24 2013, 01:51 AM.
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Jan 24 2013, 01:15 AM
Taijutsu is mainly cheap because it dominates ninjutsu. It is somehow the weakness of ninjutsu because you attack their health harder/faster, which you have more of. You also were gained extra benefits such as "stuns." 1 kick gives a player the stun of 2-3 seconds. Now a stun doesn't make that person not move, but makes it so they can't use their ninjutsu, but if they do, it goes on CD. Which makes Gates almost impossible to beat considering you can't kawa, clone, anything.

So you get rid of their offense, defense and health. In one kick.

Which is why it's cheap.


The stun should be removed. . . .
Lol Dominates ninjutsu. Noooooo
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Yeah, I'm against OHKOs. The ones currently in are the supers, and domu crush. But everyone says they're balanced when I bring them up, so nothing will change.

@Kiruzon= BM.
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Guys aren't even talking about the real OP things like Kunai.

But yeah, you aren't a noob becase you use Taijutsu. You are just a scrub, everyone in this topic is a scrub but me. All of you are terrible, free fall out of reality. You disgust me, learn to NFF you fucking scrub.
Edited by Fox, Jan 24 2013, 01:56 AM.
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Jan 24 2013, 01:53 AM
Guys aren't even talking about the real OP things like Kunai.
Taijutsu isn't even OP.

I just want to know where the dick that's up everybody's most people's asses is coming from? Where's this misconception of taijutsu born from?

See, what if one day I got pissed at all suiton users because I can't shushin on their water. And they can bind. And a lot of their attacks have range, speed, power, and guidance.

Well, **** me, that's part of the game so I should just shut the hell up right? Nobody's gonna tolerate me.

But everybody joins in on that taijutsu shit-talking.
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Rock armor advanced blocks all tai techs. One ninjutsu stops all taijutsu gggggggggggggg
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I just told you? Because you are a fucking scrub. All of you are fucking scrubs, I'm the best, I'm the only one that uses fairly balanced moves and fighting styles. You all resort to cheap fucking shit, if anyone on this game ever beats me they are edited or I'm under trained. Even then I was only using 10-20% power tops.
Edited by Fox, Jan 24 2013, 01:58 AM.
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Jan 24 2013, 01:50 AM
I suppose my only concern is this:

If you nerf taijutsu to hell, I don't care. I'll just make a nin/gen user like everyone else and be happy.

But why must I be undervalued and coined a "noob" because I use taijutsu? Apparently, it's perfectly common place to call somebody that regardless of the level of skill or thought they put into their technique.

Why is it not you, fuuton noob, that gets called that? Or you, suiton noob? Genjutsu noob, how do you deal with this?

It is only the "taijutsu" noob that gets ridiculed and called cheap for all to mock.

Also, you realize that removing the stun on handseals from taijutsu will demolish it, right? Taijutsu will be essentially useless.

Hah...you're not serious fallen? Taijutsu hits too hard?

I hit for 40~60 stamina damage per punch. Maybe 80 stamina damage per kick. That's assuming they just SIT there and take them. If they're moving, that's something else. Also, 25k stamina? Not likely. I have probably...I dunno. 7k right now? That's at age 26.
Why do you ask me so many questions when you never answer mine?

Nobody is saying nerf Taijutsu.

You are called a noob because everyone is called a noob. Noob.

It's not fuuton, suiton or gen noob? Man. Raito was called a fuuton noob with his all day. Every single day someone says baku noob. Last week all day every day it was oceanic noob.

You do realize taijutsu was doing absolutely fine without it negating handseals, right?

Per punch. That's 120 damage in one punch. Double strike. Now how fast is a punch? .5 sec - 1 sec. No delay. No CD. That's 240 damage per second. That's not good damage? Why yes it is. And it's not the main offense. The hard hitting I was talking about were the 1.5k hitters. Which is a lot considering you get 4.5k if you don't have 15 phy. Even 10 phy is only given 3k stamina.

7k Stamina is a lot. It's too much actually for not having all your boosts yet. 7k make Tai fights boring, suiton fights one sided.
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Jan 24 2013, 01:53 AM
Guys aren't even talking about the real OP things like Kunai.

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Jan 24 2013, 01:28 AM
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Jan 24 2013, 01:27 AM
Hey, I'm a miniature Yaku now. How about we talk about the anime instead of something relevant.
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Jan 24 2013, 02:03 AM
Fox
Jan 24 2013, 01:53 AM
Guys aren't even talking about the real OP things like Kunai.

poison*
ERRR MERRR GHAWDD NINJUTSUUUUUU

This topic is dumb.

All of you are dumb, without me NFF would die. The only solution to this idiotic shit is perma-banning everyone but me. No second chances allowed, even if you didn't commit the crime. I guarantee you stupid would go down 80-94%
Edited by Fox, Jan 24 2013, 02:08 AM.
http://users.pop.umn.edu/~matt0350/images/forumcrap/october/scream.pdf
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