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| Uharuu | Jan 21 2013, 11:51 AM Post #16 |
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| Unstoppablebeast | Jan 21 2013, 11:53 AM Post #17 |
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I don't think Argon quite "hates" us, otherwise why would he waste his time on the game? The main issue, as I see it, just boils down to a spoiled player-base, and by spoiled I mean "you have it too good." NFF is free, the updates are free, everything is free. You even get to complain 'n shit on the forums (which are free) and everyone likes free things and complaining. And there are, of course, several issues along this same vein: 1. Whenever Argon/Sasuna pop up in chat/announce/etc. instead of a "hi" or continuing normal business, it's "pls" "edit?" "fix" "can I have..." "ban so-and-so" etc. I guess that's to be expected but other companies which host MMOs and update them semi-regularly either make a profit from selling the game, make a profit from subscription, or make a profit from an in-game cash shop. NFF currently makes no profit other than a handful of edits (maybe?) which I assume go to pay for upcoming server costs. So...Sasuna, more-so than Argon (since he's used to it by now) feels increasingly more dejected because you ungrateful farts (nobody in particular, just a generalization) give him 1 second of praise in exchange for 1 hour of bullshit. That's the way it is though, and I think that plays a smaller part than you or I would actually think it does because, let's face it, not every player is going to write a thank you letter to the owners. 2. And this is the more important issue, I think. Argon and Sasuna are supposed to function as a team [Argon, Sasuna, please read], I don't know the dynamics of their relationship but there has been an awful lot of issues relating to banned jutsu, banned players, etc. The best analogy I can give is that a player complains about his "unfair ban" to Sasuna, cries-moans-writes scathing posts on the forums, he gets these so called "White Knight Players" which in reality aren't players, they're trolls who want to get something for themselves by pretending to be on the "player's side, fighting for justice, the GM's abuse the game, their mothers, AND THEIR SPOUSES, RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE." If the crying is successful then, much to everyone's dismay, they're unbanned not because of logic or a change-of-heart but because of pure, unadulterated butthurt. Now, say this person doesn't get unbanned after bothering everyone and even going to MSN. Then, much like a child going to mom/dad after the other parent has said no, they ask Argon. Now Argon, possibly in the loop, possibly not, maybe he doesn't give 2 shits, maybe not even 1. Anyways. If Argon does something contrary to Sasuna's actions, or vice-versa. BAM. Instant disconnect. Who is in charge now? Who makes the deciding choice? There are only two "owners" active. There is no vote, because each side gets 50% ... I'm sure I could add more but I'm done typing.
The term "oldies" has no bearing here. And the last person I would expect to write that sentence is you, Neb, after your recent childish behavior. Edited by Unstoppablebeast, Jan 21 2013, 11:54 AM.
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| Nebulous | Jan 21 2013, 11:53 AM Post #18 |
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Are you dumb? I wasn't complaining about the GAME itself nor updates, I was mad because of being wrongfully banned. But I knew someone would bring this up, how about you stay on topic Fable. Me being mad about being wrongfully banned =/= people raging about updates and being upgratefuly. Edited by Nebulous, Jan 21 2013, 11:55 AM.
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| Hussein Oda | Jan 21 2013, 11:53 AM Post #19 |
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So... what you're saying is..... oldies don't complain? ...... ...... ......
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| Nebulous | Jan 21 2013, 11:55 AM Post #20 |
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Name one oldie who cries on OOC about updates. I invite anyone to answer this question. Edited by Nebulous, Jan 21 2013, 12:00 PM.
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| Aiichi | Jan 21 2013, 12:01 PM Post #21 |
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Yeah, I agree, but Godon, you always add onto it how the 'old nff' was better...and though Xeyl is redundant with it, he was right. Instead of saying which time of NFF was better [which by the way insults Sasuna to an extent] look at how things are MORE balanced than they were back then. [Not saying the game is balanced.] Hell, even when I first came, and I was relatively new, it was pretty bad in terms of balance. Screenwide ryuukas, 8k suiton, screenwide nagashi..etc. Or staff members who edited their saves yet had no real importance to the game to be deemed a spot. The list goes on.
Dude...Neb. You complain about anything that koes you...or that you lose to. I haven't fought you recently but I've seen your fights. The first reaction when you lose is "OP. What the ****. Someone nerf that." Which is funny because you spammed ocean gen not thinking that it was OP. You complain...a lot. Don't say newer people complain more. The community as a whole complains. I do too. Just not as much because I actually talk to staff...by that I mean I know the struggles they go through so if the game has some things that don't need to be mentioned at the time, I don't mention it. Again you're probably going to flame me about my mistakes or whatever, but I'm just pointing out that you complain as much as any 'new player'. |
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| xxxxyobdab | Jan 21 2013, 12:01 PM Post #22 |
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Well if sasuna or argon does something for someone/some people those people should say thanks, although perhaps what was added isnt what they thought id be, im sure they would voice that. Now people who didnt ask/dont care dont have to say thanks because it wasnt done for them. I remember argon saying nff is for the coders not players. Something along those lines. So if sasuna adds something in himself no one has to say thanks. While some ppl may say thanks because its something they like/wanted. So i feel like im getting the message that sasuna wants us to not complain(clearly) but to also accept additions/changes(this is hard to agree with, what if ninjutsu was removed all together? Would be agreeing and saying thanks?) Edited by xxxxyobdab, Jan 21 2013, 12:02 PM.
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| Aiichi | Jan 21 2013, 12:03 PM Post #23 |
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Yom? LOL |
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| Unstoppablebeast | Jan 21 2013, 12:04 PM Post #24 |
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It's not like Sasuna or Argon are going to read this. Argon took one look at this topic and nope'd away. Stop wasting your breaths and time, all this is becoming is a flame-festival and chance for Neb. to retaliate. I wouldn't be surprised if Hawk jumped in on this too. |
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| Hussein Oda | Jan 21 2013, 12:04 PM Post #25 |
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| xxxxyobdab | Jan 21 2013, 12:06 PM Post #26 |
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This topic isnt for sasuna or argon directly. Its about sasuna/argon directed at the playerbase. |
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| Nebulous | Jan 21 2013, 12:08 PM Post #27 |
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Aiichi, you really want to go there? Litterally the ONLY person that i've complained about for Ko'ing me is B, this whole entire era since I started back playing. All your doing is repeating words that have been said over OOC about mean which are meant to try and "flame" me. Well they're wrong, because B is the only person i've complained about. But regaurdless of all of that, even if I did say "nerf that" after a fight (which i don't) You dont' see me SCREAMING like a noob to the owners saying NERF NERFFF ITS TOO OPED over OOC. I would say it once like I did when I was fighting B and not complain at all afterwards. But its funny how you say i "Spam" Ocean gen when you never even fought me before? How would you even know what jutsu I use? If you ask anyone that i fight in arena, they can speak that I hardly ever use ocean gen. If i use it, its only for 1 second to make them walk. Only person i've used ocean gen on to ko someone in area was Tenzo because he was using Raikiri 24/7 in sage mode. Don't talk about stuff you don't know about Aiichi =/ I dont have no problems with you, please don't start with me about things you don't know. ".by that I mean I know the struggles they go through so if the game has some things that don't need to be mentioned at the time, I don't mention it." THIS is exactly what I mean by being an OLDIE. You KNOW the struggles so you don't mention it and wait for another time. This is what the hell i'm trying to say, its the OLDIE mentality that stops us from complaining all the damn time like other people. EDIT: For that Jewish guy or whoever he is: I think I did mention that we make suggestions on the forum about things. I'm laughing at the people who are trying to take shots at me, ride someone elses dick please. Because this topic isn't making suggestions topics its about people raging at game updates with no end to annoying owners. That topic that you tried to prove me wrong on was a much needed suggestion and was nerfed because of that topic = growth. So take shots more please. I'll just eat them up. Edited by Nebulous, Jan 21 2013, 12:15 PM.
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| Unstoppablebeast | Jan 21 2013, 12:13 PM Post #28 |
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Not anymore. See how it's devolved into Nebulous v. Aiichi v. Hussein?
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| Aiichi | Jan 21 2013, 12:15 PM Post #29 |
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Quoting this in reply to that Neb. And I did fight you before I was banned, I was Crimson Jigoku. And also Ratake Syuuka. You used ocean gen on me EVERY time I encountered you in rain..so..idk wtf you're talking about. I'm not going by what anyone says. I'm going by what I think and what I've noticed. lol I'm not an oldbie and I have that mentality. Don't know if these are oldbies, pretty sure they are, but here's some that complain to name a few. Yom Prec Yag Kaiha[the first thing he did when coming back besides talking about how awesome and amazing he was [lol] in ooc was complain about certain things in game.] There's more. Want me to go on? |
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| Unstoppablebeast | Jan 21 2013, 12:18 PM Post #30 |
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