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Is it Just me?; Suiton Damage Lacking
Topic Started: Nov 24 2012, 06:47 AM (1,432 Views)
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@solarhiro Fuuton mastery doesnt even effect cannon that much, water mastery increase damage more then fuuton mastery.
My basic with 26 fuuton mastery and 40 into cap deals 1.6k with cannon which is less then a water bullet from a 20suiton mastery and 30 into cap since your saying a char with that deals 1.7k.

As for the wp raiton hits wp less offend then all elements because of its small numbers it just hits vit so you get koed more offend so the wp damage you take is just by ko unless you get hit by gian or chidori.

Katon also a rare one only move I think can even do wp is gouryuuka the others you need insane focus.

Fuuton kazekiri used to but with the 450 cap its hard without insane focus 900 and that would be if they have no buff and thats just for 0.5 wp damage

Doton surpising is one of the most likling with there high hitting moves though hard to hit with can do wp damage.

Suiton easiest element to do wp damage
at 900 it deals 0.1 most suiton hits over that so 10 hits you hit about a ko worth without koing them.
at 1500 you have dealt .35 so hit them with 1500 3 times and thats another ko and
at 3000 which can be done commonly with baku plus baku is suitons easiest to hit jutsu will do .85 wp damage plus most of the time your sure to ko so in total baku alone will do almost 2kos of damage.
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@solarhiro Fuuton mastery doesnt even effect cannon that much, water mastery increase damage more then fuuton mastery.
My basic with 26 fuuton mastery and 40 into cap deals 1.6k with cannon which is less then a water bullet from a 20suiton mastery and 30 into cap since your saying a char with that deals 1.7k.

As for the wp raiton hits wp less offend then all elements because of its small numbers it just hits vit so you get koed more offend so the wp damage you take is just by ko unless you get hit by gian or chidori.

Katon also a rare one only move I think can even do wp is gouryuuka the others you need insane focus.

Fuuton kazekiri used to but with the 450 cap its hard without insane focus 900 and that would be if they have no buff and thats just for 0.5 wp damage

Doton surpising is one of the most likling with there high hitting moves though hard to hit with can do wp damage.

Suiton easiest element to do wp damage
at 900 it deals 0.1 most suiton hits over that so 10 hits you hit about a ko worth without koing them.
at 1500 you have dealt .35 so hit them with 1500 3 times and thats another ko and
at 3000 which can be done commonly with baku plus baku is suitons easiest to hit jutsu will do .85 wp damage plus most of the time your sure to ko so in total baku alone will do almost 2kos of damage.
Very true and informative post.

@solarhiro Time to time your suiton in order for it not to be blocked by your opponent. Other stam hitters mixed with suiton is a good idea also such as tai or futon. A lol idea would to be magma and suiton so they would attempt to block a goryuuka ;)
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Came back to this post <.< Eh i have a few Suggestions, Tell me if you like or not Or atleast tell me why throw around some ideas and such

Suiton Heki: Should delete Katons on contact (Already i see people complaining on this the reason why i think so because it a wall of water <.<...It can block wind and Lightning but not fire? Really?)

Whirlpool: Needs to be where the user clicks a 10 sec timelimit tho (Credit to Udara)

Daibakafu: Needs more push power (I don't see how People can just walk out of a raging river Im looking for something more akin to Flame projectile i think its called)

Water clones: Needs to create water on death ( Why not?)

Water sharks: The damage is ramdom Why? I don't know Can't we just find a balance to this?

Water Creation: The size needs to increase with more Suiton knowledge and im not saying what it is currently I mean Kisame level Or somewhere near the size of Swamp

as i said before with the water damage passive i feel as if it shouldn't be needed Suiton is an element already requiring lots of cap to use unlike the others so why would it need a damage passive? a passive that turns your damage from crappy to normal when you already spent like 30 points into cap It makes no sense at all.

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Water Wall is much better than it used to be. Sasuna recently made it 5-tiles long, and block vision, what more do you want?! Although having it delete katons that hit it would be nice.

Water Clones suck. Unless they have some secret effect i havent found yet. They use up water tiles to create clones, but do not leave water behind when they die. I agree they could use a change.

Whirlpool hurts the user, and spawns right under them. Kinda strange... But i hate the jutsu anyways, so w/e

Rest is fine. Suiton is fine. Every tree has some good jutsu, some bad.

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Water Wall is much better than it used to be. Sasuna recently made it 5-tiles long, and block vision, what more do you want?! Although having it delete katons that hit it would be nice.

Water Clones suck. Unless they have some secret effect i havent found yet. They use up water tiles to create clones, but do not leave water behind when they die. I agree they could use a change.

Whirlpool hurts the user, and spawns right under them. Kinda strange... But i hate the jutsu anyways, so w/e

Rest is fine. Suiton is fine. Every tree has some good jutsu, some bad.

Yea i just noticed that but What point in a wall of water that can't block fire?
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Water clones sucks Yes.....Yes...<.< Scratch that Forget the clones


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Came back to this post <.< Eh i have a few Suggestions, Tell me if you like or not Or atleast tell me why throw around some ideas and such

Suiton Heki: Should delete Katons on contact (Already i see people complaining on this the reason why i think so because it a wall of water <.<...It can block wind and Lightning but not fire? Really?)

Whirlpool: Needs to be where the user clicks a 10 sec timelimit tho (Credit to Udara)

Daibakafu: Needs more push power (I don't see how People can just walk out of a raging river Im looking for something more akin to Flame projectile i think its called)

Water clones: Needs to create water on death ( Why not?)

Water sharks: The damage is ramdom Why? I don't know Can't we just find a balance to this?

Water Creation: The size needs to increase with more Suiton knowledge and im not saying what it is currently I mean Kisame level Or somewhere near the size of Swamp

as i said before with the water damage passive i feel as if it shouldn't be needed Suiton is an element already requiring lots of cap to use unlike the others so why would it need a damage passive? a passive that turns your damage from crappy to normal when you already spent like 30 points into cap It makes no sense at all.

First of all, lol at the people who disliked this just because it's about Suiton. Some of his points are actually true. How does fire push me back, but a jutsu called GREAT WATERFALL not have any push? Suiton Heki should block Katon, it's a wall of water. Come on guys.Water sharks don't need anything, the damage is random probably because someone blocked after the first one hit.
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