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| Tsukioni | Oct 16 2011, 03:55 PM Post #16 |
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Suiton hits too hard to be counter-able. That's my problem with it. |
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| Fox | Oct 16 2011, 04:05 PM Post #17 |
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If the damage was reduced would it still be effective or would it become a water gun? Suiton's primary attribute is it's burst damage, if it's primary attribute was taken away it'd become a tickle cannon. The issue with suiton from the responses aren't really that it hits to hard. It's how it hits. ATM it acts like a revolver that you have to cock every time. Cock Bang - Cock Bang - Cock Bang Suiton should work more like a musket. Prime Cock Bang - Prime Cock bang It needs that extra opening for the counter attack. Can you define a hard counter for any of the suiton moves besides it's elemental weakness (Excluding pretty shiny wave) since blocking no longer works? For the sake of my up coming example let's say no. What sution needs is not a reduction in damage but longer hand seal times. If that isn't enough to balance it out then make the hand seals more vulnerable to be interrupted from attacks. TL;DR Keep suiton's high damage but give all of it's jutsu a above average to high hand seal time. Edited by Fox, Oct 16 2011, 04:07 PM.
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| Stryke | Oct 16 2011, 04:10 PM Post #18 |
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While giving it a longer handseal it would still make people with speedy trait will still have machine guns instead of muskets Only thing I can think of is giving Sution users a longer stun time after using a jutsu....and extra longer if outside of water. Edited by Stryke, Oct 16 2011, 04:12 PM.
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| Fox | Oct 16 2011, 04:13 PM Post #19 |
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Then add the ability for them to be interrupted as well. The interrupted might have a few kinks at first but I think that's what suiton needs. Because it hits hard, and fast sution users like to run next to you and fire the jutsu at you since they home they don't need to face you so they don't need any prep time; and it gives you no time to defend. That increased hand seal time should give you enough time to A) Smash their face in. B) GTFO the way. That extra stun time after using a jutsu could also work well with an added negative to suiton users. Edited by Fox, Oct 16 2011, 04:15 PM.
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http://users.pop.umn.edu/~matt0350/images/forumcrap/october/scream.pdf Someone once said "be the you you wanna be", and that's just how I feel now to. | |
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| Uharuu | Oct 16 2011, 04:15 PM Post #20 |
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No, suiton is not oped. |
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| parasite47 | Oct 16 2011, 04:17 PM Post #21 |
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does suiton even home anymore or is it just guided to target like kiro shurikens were if you click someone exactly it homes or atleast appears to home |
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| Fox | Oct 16 2011, 04:17 PM Post #22 |
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Please say why it isn't or is OP, the one sentence hard headed lines are annoying. To hopefully stop this back and forth nerf buff crap there really needs to be a discussion so im just going to delete your post because it really adds nothing to the conversation if people keep doing it. @Parasite i'd also like to know that to I wouldn't think it's homing would have been changed but i'd also appreciate it if someone could confirm if it does or doesn't. Edited by Fox, Oct 16 2011, 04:19 PM.
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| Uharuu | Oct 16 2011, 04:53 PM Post #23 |
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It's not oped because All you got to do is spam X. Only thing op about Suiton is when people over cap and hitting 3k. |
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| Vejolta | Oct 16 2011, 04:58 PM Post #24 |
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sharks are fairly difficult to hit with all of them (unless your'e standing still for some reason) only OP thing about suiton is water fang, i was hit for 1k damage by it once xD and that's vit as for stam damage, it's pretty cool but it's not really that strong of an element, you can run right out of daibakufu, it has one of the shittiest supers in the game, only baku and dragon/sharks are any good o.o |
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Though its adorable, gotta remove the Gif~Vash Thats a whole lotta poon~Vash ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| Uharuu | Oct 16 2011, 04:59 PM Post #25 |
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Water Fang is not even op either Vejolta, all you got to do is don't stay still and stay off the water. |
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| Vejolta | Oct 16 2011, 05:05 PM Post #26 |
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still hits for a lot of damage. lol |
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Though its adorable, gotta remove the Gif~Vash Thats a whole lotta poon~Vash ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| Uharuu | Oct 16 2011, 05:22 PM Post #27 |
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Because people overcapped, don't blame suiton. Blame the over cap shit. |
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| -Spike- | Oct 16 2011, 05:51 PM Post #28 |
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k suiton isn't op. *makes suiton/raiton uchiha* |
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| Wolfenstein | Oct 16 2011, 05:57 PM Post #29 |
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Suikoudan is homing but you have to manually click the place for them to go. Also it's kinda funny that Abura hasn't killed me with his 15 sharks but then again I have doton. Which according to Tsukioni, nobody has. Maybe that's why I'm not complaining about Suiton...because I actually have defensive jutsu. Jutsu is based on suiton mastery, meaning for them to hit for that much they have to overcap it. Which probably makes all their other jutsu monstrous. Edited by Wolfenstein, Oct 16 2011, 05:58 PM.
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| Tsukioni | Oct 16 2011, 06:01 PM Post #30 |
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You're the only fag with doton. fag |
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