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NFF vs GOA
Topic Started: Nov 18 2010, 11:29 AM (2,334 Views)
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Nov 22 2010, 04:24 AM
It is even Argon said it was. Stop talking you don't know anything. Masterdan is a genious who left his game. No source compares to Goa. That's that, also consider when Goa was made. Masterdan was waaay ahead of his time.
Just because argon said it was doesn't mean it's right, hop off his Nikola. The code for GOA is pretty laughable.
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Nov 22 2010, 04:24 AM
It is even Argon said it was. Stop talking you don't know anything. Masterdan is a genious who left his game. No source compares to Goa. That's that, also consider when Goa was made. Masterdan was waaay ahead of his time.
Who keeps closing this topic?

The GOA source is considered terrible to a lot of advance programmers. Games like Decadence or Bleach Eternity were much higher quality.

The best anime game right now are the ones made by Falacy because he knows what he's doing, while the best game on BYOND is probably Decadence.
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Yeah Zack but your forgetting how long ago Masterdan made this source and Imo it's still the best. I haven't seen any of Falacy's work and I never will but I can tell you one thing, the reason people think it's bad is because Masterdan made it more complicating then it could have been. The regen dm is 1000+ lines.
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Nov 22 2010, 03:39 PM
Yeah Zack but your forgetting how long ago Masterdan made this source and Imo it's still the best. I haven't seen any of Falacy's work and I never will but I can tell you one thing, the reason people think it's bad is because Masterdan made it more complicating then it could have been. The regen dm is 1000+ lines.
Well actually he coded it to perfection, mainly because he coded it so everything would run smoothly. Instead of making it as short as possible he made it as efficient as possible.


Falacy's coding probably is shit, but his games themselves are great and have what BYOND needs. SuperAntx I believe without a doubt has amazing coding. But Masterdan's work was amazing. There were rumors though that Dan didn't code the game himself and in fact it was his brother, which would make sense as to why we have no updates from either Kobata or Dan, since no one would know how to update it. But I've seen the source and it's amazing to use for research and understanding, as I learn a lot of new things from it and try to approach them in Ninpo to make the game smoother and more efficient.
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Sucks how the GOA rips are better then GOA >_>

and how like everyone has it's source now.
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Zack I know Kobata can code because of what I have seen he can do. Also he recently released like a fixed version of a Goa game for a day. All the bugs are being fixed now and according to Dipic Kobata is an amazing programmer. We all think Kobata is either lazy or has his own project. Soul's opinion is Kobata has his own project. Also who is Dan's brother? I never knew about this.
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I've talked to dan personally over MSN (it was legitly him, for obvious reasons) Dan is hardly ever on the computer now'a'days. Or if he is on the computer, he isn't on MSN. Dan is an Adult, like, 23+, so BYOND probably doesn't seem so fun for him anymore. But He did code GOA, for a fact.

Note: If you haven't noticed, the now day GOA is basically a remake of the old version. Jus'sayin.
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I doubt you talked to Dan. He's been hacked by Dion so many times, that you can never know...
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Dan is only a year older than I am, but that guy is legitly 100x smarter than I am. I could probably come SOMEWHERE close to his level of coding/programing/scripting or whatever you wanna call it, but I am as lazy or lazier than he is. Nevertheless I admire him for his accomplishments, and the fact that he started the same way we did, by making Dragonball Gekisen from a Zeta Source and redoing every little bit of it and stripping out all the old code to make it his own game. Which was extremely fun by the way.

Kobata was a dick on Gekisen. Just saying. Idk if he's changed or not but I do remember that when I was grinding training he teleported to me in my guild house and froze me because SOMEONE who hated me told him I was AFK training and I hadn't back then. And freezing you put you in an icon block of ice and was essentially stopping you from all activity except OOC.

Well as soon as he froze me I shouted over OOC "IM HERE DUDE!". No count down or warning or anything. Just muted me and logged out. Yeah. So I have 0 respect for a douche bag of that level. Regardless of whether or not he can code or has any intelligence of any sort.
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Nov 22 2010, 05:20 PM
Dan is only a year older than I am, but that guy is legitly 100x smarter than I am. I could probably come SOMEWHERE close to his level of coding/programing/scripting or whatever you wanna call it, but I am as lazy or lazier than he is. Nevertheless I admire him for his accomplishments, and the fact that he started the same way we did, by making Dragonball Gekisen from a Zeta Source and redoing every little bit of it and stripping out all the old code to make it his own game. Which was extremely fun by the way.

Kobata was a dick on Gekisen. Just saying. Idk if he's changed or not but I do remember that when I was grinding training he teleported to me in my guild house and froze me because SOMEONE who hated me told him I was AFK training and I hadn't back then. And freezing you put you in an icon block of ice and was essentially stopping you from all activity except OOC.

Well as soon as he froze me I shouted over OOC "IM HERE DUDE!". No count down or warning or anything. Just muted me and logged out. Yeah. So I have 0 respect for a douche bag of that level. Regardless of whether or not he can code or has any intelligence of any sort.
I heard he abused in GOA and took over Sand Village and then kicked everyone out or something like that.

i don't keep in track with GOA.

I give the players at GOA respect, because the game itself is better for being much cleaner than ours.

I don't like the general ideas put into GOA though itself. If GOA was a Bleach game I'd probably love it more though, instead of Naruto because it inspires many more Naruto games to copy it.
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Kobata is a fucking asshole grape. I hate him so much. If you say hi to him he mutes you. He's a prick at the top level.
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Nov 22 2010, 06:58 PM
Kobata is a fucking asshole grape. I hate him so much. If you say hi to him he mutes you. He's a prick at the top level.
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I challenged Kobata in Cha once. All he did was Taijuu spam, making the server lag, and making cha filled with Kobatas. Talk about hax when his stats are maxed, same with passives, + hax stam/chakra.
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Kobata is a COMPLETE asshole, How dan can even be associated with someone of that level is so surprising to me.

Kobata disgusts me in everyway possible and anyone who likes him can whack their head against a fucking iron pole.
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Nov 21 2010, 01:25 PM
Hell no..

GOA's base looks like an Umpalumpa..

There are many ugly, disgusting icons in GOA.

NFF's Katon > GOA's
NFF's Doton > GOA's
NNF's Fuuton > GOA's
You get the point.


When it comes to Clans.. the only clan I can say is well done is Akimichi.
While NFF's is completely undone.

GOA is OP, Nara's have no balance just go pure CON and BOOM, your targets done once they get cause in shadow.

Go pure str, and your crits hit 5-12k.. really?

Some NNG shit.

Pure Rfx, and then max Blindside passive, then Get sharingan = most OP's shit.

Rfx + sword? Do I have to say?

Int+Rfx, Clone+Blindside... Easy win.

Gates... =______=


Nuff said. I don't even know what else to say..
The fuuton jutsus on GOA I think looks better then ours >_>. They have that cool kaze gai move that leaves that trail.

But you really cant compare since they only have like 4 element jutsus for each element, where as on NFF we have about 8+ for each.

GOAs mud jutsu looks better then ours.
GOAs Renkuudan looks better then ours.
GOAs nagashi and chidori and chidori spear looks better.
GOAs Kaiten icon is by far the sexiest icon on that game. Looks 3Dish.
GOAs water jutsus looks better then most NFF water jutsus.

But thats only a few better icons GOA has. NFF has more
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