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Training systems.
Topic Started: Feb 17 2009, 09:43 PM (542 Views)
Phoenix49
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Ok I just want everyones personal opinion on this. Personally I really dislike this new system, Id prefer to go back to the old system (everything with stats and you can train all independent from each other) and I was so-so on the GOAish system but with all these updates and crap Im sure that wont happen. In short just give me your opinion on the new system.
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CVacio
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I just want to have more choices of training a jutsu, because generating chakra and intensifying my chakra are the only ones for now, maybe mountain/water walking are bugged, i don't now.
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Zaku
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I agree with CV but also i don't like the huge delay's there are between when you finally get your jutsu from when you can learn another jutsu like the other day i think CV had to wait like 6 hour's to get his next jutsu seriously wtf is that about
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Renden, Vash
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Eh, I don't like it really. Don't get me wrong though, it is a neat and unique system but I'm just not liking it. Few reasons, one probably the biggest problem like Cora said, is the waiting in between learning jutsus. me and Doug had to wait like 7 hours >_>. This can really hurt those people that can't spend 10 hours a day on the computer and can only get on for like 2 hours a day.

Second is that killing other players does absolutely nothing except raise Class and bounty which much don't care for. I wouldn't mind it giving EXP again but this time for jutsu learning. I'd just hope that when you die you don't lose 100% EXP again =.=.

third, maybe it is just this that tiring me and others about the update. Is that right when we got use to the system before this one (Or still trying to get use to it) a whole new system comes in. And even though Kaio said that it's not a Pwipe, it really feels like it is.Which is also preventing the War that was going to happen so long ago >.>.
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Kanisaki
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I dont like the huge delay. ANd I dont think that decreasing the delay would change much of anything. I believe that the delay system was not properly implemented.
I dont like the fact that there's only 2 similar training method.I dont see the reason why mountain climbing and water walking was taken out.(might have been a bug dunno o-o)
I dont like the fact that there's no guide.
I dont like the fact that killing dosent give you experience anymore.
I dont like the huge delay <.< . . .
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Hawk
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I have to wait 24h hours to learn my next jutsu. 100k seconds... I still like this system ecause it takes hard work and time to learn the jutsus. You don’t learn all your jutsus in one day. Also in this new version we can learn all the jutsus in time cept clan jutsus. In the old ver it was sp. Once we got to 400ish it was really hard to get jutsus. You guys shud be a little patient. Get your passives up while waiting.
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Renden, Vash
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Hawk, as Kani said it was put in wrong. Think of the people who can't spend 10 hours a day on BYOND, or can't keep the game up and go AFK for the night like you do.
Some people like Retsu for example can only play one or two hours a day. Now, should they -really- have to spend 12 days to learn their next jutsu?
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Hawk
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I guess but if kaio does speed it up... more people will be running around with gates. If gates had more requirements i wudnt mind.
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Renden, Vash
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Gates changed, a good amount don't like it. Since regen is -slow- as hell and when in any gate it drains you. So fighting in a gate is hard for anyone. Diffidently if the person the gate user is fighting is one that can hit straight Vit.
Anyone can get gates and hold down attack, but only a few can attually use it to its full potential.
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I really dislike the system how you can't really get jutsus chakra intensity is crappy. Chakra generation is a little faster but still slow when you need 15k+ exp and u r get only 6 every 3 seconds then u run out of stamina. The jutsu delay is stupid to me since you work hard for a jutsu and you are punished for it by the delay. Only good thing I find with the system are passives.
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Phoenix49
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Actually now that I see how many people can afk train easily with so few GMs at a number of times in a day, it seems the cooldown actually helps to keep afk trainers from learning all the jutsus they need, therefore without the cooldown wed be seeing a lot of people with all the jutsus that theyre character could learn. Some of you still disagree but think of it like this, an AFK trainer who dosent get caught, if the cooldown system was gone would you really want a guy whod have all the jutsus of 2 elements (im saying like a haku or kusakin or a case like Hawk) all their clan jutsus, and their village jutsus and the miscallaneous jutsus?
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The dragon looked almost hungry the way it moved.. it craved battle.
"You see... No matter how many times I die..No matter what happens to my body..." Cientren said as the Dragon puppet opened its mouth and bent its head down towards Kanisaki, who was in utter shock of the sheer size of the puppet.
"I rise again from the ashes.... I am 'The Phoenix'!"
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but the cool-down is really long, like if you learn something with 15k exp requirement you have to wait ~3 hours before you can try to learn another jutsu which is like a punishment for learn a jutsu. If you want to counteract EZer/AFK trainers get more gms to moniter or AFK checks.
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I think that we shouldnt have to wait the same amount of time for how much we trained for the jutsu and wait half the time it took to get the jutsu. i mean there are always gonna be ppl lik hawk walking around pwning ppl with there huge repertoire of jutsu, but thats the lucky few. maybe lik the older you get the quicker yu learn jutsu that would actually make sense the more experience you gain the more quickly yu learn jutsu.
bt thats jus my opinion. :)
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The training system is the major problem because there's really hard ways to make a proper training system for each individual jutsu.
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Kyrie Eleison
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The people who can't play alot, are kinda stuck for it, I would reccomend they give their password to somebody who CAN, but the thing is, jutsu arsenal isn't everything, since the game is so skill based now (and it willbe more when everything is ballanced out) jutsu will just help determine a person's fighting style, if you beleive there is such a thing on a 2d top-down game.

Not only that but the delay IS required, as Vash said it restricts AFK training.
It also stops people running around with 101 jutsu, which is always a pain in the ass. I mean seriously, those days WERE fun, I had 65+ish jutsu at level 530, but I used how many?
Not that many, 7 or 8, tops.
Even now alot of the jutsu I'm learning is more for the sake of consuming time.

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Also, AFK checking is ALOT harder than it used to be, I tried to do one not too long ago, it took me almost an hour to do half the mob list, what we need really is an auto-mated AFK-checking engine, meaning anybody who has done a verb within the last 30 seconds, will get a prompt, if they do not respond to the prompt, they will be booted, and it be saved to a record.
If the boots add up to say 3 or more, they should be auto banned, and a GM informed, then the GM can unban them when they see fit.
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