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Jul 3 2013, 11:54 PM
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omg fuk the quotes this just takes the whole topic
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Jul 4 2013, 12:13 AM
So let me just repeat your own words for about a fifth time.
You admit you can be an idiot. You admit you can be wrong about atheism. You have everyone in this topic besides Tamaza (which got confused at the second post) telling you you're wrong. We provided the wikipedia for you. Twist even knows you're wrong, he's only arguing you're more atheist than anything else.

But you still think your definition of atheism you got out of thin air is correct.

So no matter what a group of intelligent people tell you. A group that has experience from literature and practices. You're not going to trust their input, their links and you're not going to research it yourself.

Like I said, you're intentionally being ignorant. You're idiotic. You're going to have to accept it and move on. I already know you're too oblivious to learn from it.
You're not atheist.
I will say for Twist's sake I accept you can be atheist in the future.
I do.

I think you and Fox are intelligent, but I also think you're wrong.

I have researched it for myself. I actually own a few books on Atheism (most recent one is Godless). And I've come to the conclusion that, until proven otherwise, my definition is the most correct.

I know you are, but what am I?~
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Jul 4 2013, 12:11 AM
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Jul 4 2013, 12:05 AM
Okay Twist, you have come to me with a scientific theory, what I am arguing would be akin to a scientific fact.

There isn't another way to look at a fact, because a fact is a fact. It is a fact that 2 + 2 = 4, it is a fact that water is made up of Hydrogen and Oxygen. You cannot say "NOPE WRONG, WATER ISN'T MADE UP OF HYDROGEN AND OXYGEN BECAUSE OF WHATEVER"

That isn't how things work. . .
I know it is confusing (sort of) and bothersome. I don't like philosophy, honestly. What you are saying is entirely correct. However what I am saying is NOT scientific theory. It's nothing but a perspective (which is all philosophy, no real fact.)
But as it happens we do need some basic philosophy in order to interpret reality.
Yes, 2 + 2 = 4. A mathematician would see this as a process. You have a two, and you add another two, and you get four. A philosopher might say, you have four, the 2 + 2 is not important.

I am really struggling to word this in a way that is understandable, but you don't seem to get me.
What you said could be looked at as a theory or a philosophy.

Neither could be looked at as incorrect, but someone saying 2 + 2 = 3 would be incorrect, which is closer to what Fable is saying. He doesn't fit the definition of what he is describing, which means, he isn't what he is describing.

There isn't another perspective in this.

If the 4 is or isn't important is an entirely different thing, which could have different perspectives to it depending on what you're talking about.
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Jul 4 2013, 12:14 AM
If you do not believe in something, you do not believe in the possibility of something Fable.

"This cannot happen" =/= "This could happen"

"This is impossible" =/= "This is possible if blah, blah"
Trying to bring tangible to represent something as impossibly intangible as beliefs is just a no. Imo.
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What definition are you talking about Fable, surely not the definition of Atheism?
http://users.pop.umn.edu/~matt0350/images/forumcrap/october/scream.pdf
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Jul 4 2013, 12:18 AM
An idiot
I know you're not calling anyone an idiot rofl.
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I gave you proof of the atheism definition. It is in the link I provided.
Please show me proof from a credible source where it says "Atheism is the belief of possible deities, whilst also believing there are none."
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Jul 4 2013, 12:19 AM
What definition are you talking about Fable, surely not the definition of Atheism?
I am.
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Jul 4 2013, 12:20 AM
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Jul 4 2013, 12:17 AM
I do.

I think you and Fox are intelligent, but I also think you're wrong.

I have researched it for myself. I actually own a few books on Atheism (most recent one is Godless). And I've come to the conclusion that, until proven otherwise, my definition is the most correct.

I know you are, but what am I?~
Okay, Fable. I gave you proof of the atheism definition. It is in the link I provided.
Please show me proof from a credible source where it says "Atheism is the belief of possible deities, whilst also believing there are none."
I can't prove that, so you can choose to believe what you will.
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Jul 4 2013, 12:19 AM
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Jul 4 2013, 12:14 AM
If you do not believe in something, you do not believe in the possibility of something Fable.

"This cannot happen" =/= "This could happen"

"This is impossible" =/= "This is possible if blah, blah"
Trying to bring tangible to represent something as impossibly intangible as beliefs is just a no. Imo.
But it is fine, especially in this case. You say you are something, but again, you do not fit what you are superscribing yourself to be, because of this you are not what you say you are.

Saying "THIS DOES NOT EXIST" is not the same as saying "THIS COULD, WILL OR MAY EXIST"


Then you are again, incorrect.
Edited by Fox, Jul 4 2013, 12:21 AM.
http://users.pop.umn.edu/~matt0350/images/forumcrap/october/scream.pdf
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Fable can't argue at all of us, just keep posting until he explodes. FABLE U ARE NOT EVEN REAL, YOU CANNOT BE PROVEN!!
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I don't need to believe anything. I know the definition of atheism. The definition isn't based on opinion or faith.

I can't go "I worship Satan, but believe there is no God, but believe in a God." Then call myself Christian.
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How are you going to say Fallen makes up definitions when you, yourself have made up your own definition of "Atheism".

That definitely isn't how this works. If I say, apples or oranges, and treat that is true then I am incorrect. I cannot be correct just because I believe myself to be so, because an orange is not an apple.
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Jul 4 2013, 12:21 AM
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Jul 4 2013, 12:14 AM
If you do not believe in something, you do not believe in the possibility of something Fable.

"This cannot happen" =/= "This could happen"

"This is impossible" =/= "This is possible if blah, blah"
Trying to bring tangible to represent something as impossibly intangible as beliefs is just a no. Imo.
But it is fine, especially in this case. You say you are something, but again, you do not fit what you are superscribing yourself to be, because of this you are not what you say you are.

Saying "THIS DOES NOT EXIST" is not the same as saying "THIS COULD, WILL OR MAY EXIST"


Then you are again, incorrect.
Na. We've had this discussion, and we're going in circles at this point. I'm just waiting for you to disprove what I say, by finding a definition of Atheism that says that it is the rejection of the possibility of deities. Which no one has.
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How many times has Fable posted something along the lines of "Fallen believes in his own definitions?"

He literally thinks the definitions of words are opinionated and believed in. They aren't true statements. So if you believe the word "true" means "false", you're not dumb, you're different.
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