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Quotes; In memory of Phoenix, the Lord of Lols.
Topic Started: Jan 17 2009, 04:57 PM (111,509 Views)
Kiruzon
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So how is you saying we're all ignorant going to not include you. How is saying you are an atheist who has no belief in God at all correct if you just said he might exist. You're not even an atheist,

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Jul 3 2013, 11:10 PM
So..What about what fable said is wrong?

Everything that he said is actually correct.

Belief is not the equivalent of knowledge. He does not believe in god, but he does not know for sure if there is one so he does not rule out the possibility of their being one.

I don't see anything about what he said that is stupid or funny or anything.

Am I missing something?
wait wtf when did he say he was athiest, am i so high rite now?

Fox wat.
Fable is a self proclaimed atheist. But he claims that God "may" exist. Because of this he cannot be an atheist.

An atheist that claims that "god" may exist is not an atheist.

Once again, Atheism is "There is no god", not "There is no god but there might be one" that statement is a complete contradiction even without atheism applied.
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Tama-chan
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a·the·ist [ áythee ist ]
unbeliever in God or deities: somebody who does not believe in God or deities
Synonyms: nonbeliever, disbeliever, unbeliever, skeptic, doubter, agnostic, freethinker, humanist

^ Definition of an athiest.

"Belief is not the equivalent of knowledge. He does not believe in god, but he does not know for sure if there is one so he does not rule out the possibility of their being one."


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Kiruzon
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Come on Tamaza, at least bandwagon with the correct circlejerk here.
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#StopTheMadness
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Fox
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Being an atheist rules out the possibility of their being a god. I have said this already, Tamaza. You cannot be an atheist and still hold onto the possibility of their being a god.

Yes, belief may not be equivalent to knowledge. But, as an Atheist, you believe there is no god. Thus you cannot believe in the possibility of something you do no believe in. The very doing so, again, is a contradiction.
Edited by Fox, Jul 3 2013, 11:16 PM.
http://users.pop.umn.edu/~matt0350/images/forumcrap/october/scream.pdf
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Jul 3 2013, 11:13 PM
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Jul 3 2013, 11:10 PM
So..What about what fable said is wrong?

Everything that he said is actually correct.

Belief is not the equivalent of knowledge. He does not believe in god, but he does not know for sure if there is one so he does not rule out the possibility of their being one.

I don't see anything about what he said that is stupid or funny or anything.

Am I missing something?
wait wtf when did he say he was athiest, am i so high rite now?

Fox wat.
Fable is a self proclaimed atheist. But he claims that God "may" exist. Because of this he cannot be an atheist.

An atheist that claims that "god" may exist is not an atheist.

Once again, Atheism is "There is no god", not "There is no god but there might be one" that statement is a complete contradiction even without atheism applied.
oh i see what ur saying.

so he shouldn't think there is a god because he doesn't believe in gods. To him it's like pixies or fairies? o.o

So that shouldn't be a possibility because he does not believe in them?

i don't understand o.o

confusion

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This is supposed to be for quotes, make a different topic for it.
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Belief is not the equivalent of knowledge. Nobody said it was.
Believing is accepting something as true.
If you believe a God does not a exist. You are atheist.
If you believe a God could exist. You are not atheist.

It's that simple. Fable believes a God can exist. He has admitted this repeatedly. Meaning? He accepts it as true. Just because he doesn't want one to exist or highly doubts one exists doesn't mean he doesn't believe it's possible.

You two are sincerely disappointing me. You should feel ashamed at your stubbornness, ignorance and hatred.

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Jul 3 2013, 11:10 PM
Being an atheist means you believe in the complete rejection of a God, not that you don't want God to exist but he could.

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It's more like personal views conflicting with your religious views.

For example, you place your belief that God doesn't exist. At the same time it is in your nature to realize that you are ignorant about the world as a whole. So then you maintain that God doesn't exist because that is your belief, but your belief is also that any belief you have may be wrong.

So two of your beliefs conflict each other. This isn't abnormal, at least to me it isn't.

Fable isn't dumb. You guys are just nitpicking at details right now.
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Jul 3 2013, 11:17 PM
This is supposed to be for quotes, make a different topic for it.
I quoted myself in a post from before.

Also

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This is supposed to be for quotes, make a different topic for it.


on topic~
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Jul 3 2013, 11:10 PM
Being an atheist means you believe in the complete rejection of a God, not that you don't want God to exist but he could.

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"Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1][2] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities."

I think it obvious that I am for the "narrower sense."

I don't believe that a god exists. I've said this. I believe that saying that it is fact that no god exists, though, is being totally ignorant. Why? Because there is no evidence of any deities, and the absence of evidence is not the evidence of abscence. Absolutes are fickle things, and without proof, they should not be bought into. Imo.

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Jul 3 2013, 11:17 PM
Belief is not the equivalent of knowledge. Nobody said it was.
Believing is accepting something as true.
If you believe a God does not a exist. You are atheist.
If you believe a God could exist. You are not atheist.

It's that simple. Fable believes a God can exist. He has admitted this repeatedly. Meaning? He accepts it as true. Just because he doesn't want one to exist or highly doubts one exists doesn't mean he doesn't believe it's possible.

You two are sincerely disappointing me. You should feel ashamed at your stubbornness, ignorance and hatred.

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No idea where this "hatred" is from lol.
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Jul 3 2013, 11:17 PM
Fable isn't dumb.
Claims to be atheist, but believes a god can exist.
Claims killing a kid for shoes is being different, not dumb.
Claims you can't disprove Santa Claus without math.
Doesn't understand the meaning of multiple words including simplify, topic, matter, ignorance, contradiction and hypocritical.

I'd call that person dumb easily. Or is your logic the same as his?
Canadian logic. Nobody is dumb. We're all just different.
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If he is an atheist the very presumption that their is a god makes him not an atheist.

Being an atheist is the rejection of god or deities. That's it.

Wow, Okay that many post before I could even say this, let me catch up. /
Edited by Fox, Jul 3 2013, 11:20 PM.
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Jul 3 2013, 11:17 PM
Belief is not the equivalent of knowledge. Nobody said it was.
Believing is accepting something as true.
If you believe a God does not a exist. You are atheist.
If you believe a God could exist. You are not atheist.

It's that simple. Fable believes a God can exist. He has admitted this repeatedly. Meaning? He accepts it as true. Just because he doesn't want one to exist or highly doubts one exists doesn't mean he doesn't believe it's possible.

You two are sincerely disappointing me. You should feel ashamed at your stubbornness, ignorance and hatred.

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Ignorance is bliss baby.

Hatred..of what? stubornes? im not stubborn tho :(

I kind of get what you mean. But to me "I don't know if there is a god or not, so i don't believe in him" pretty much makes sense and that could be an athiest. Then again..even christians dont know if there is a god, and they believe in him..

so idk, confused now
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