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| Birth Control for Middle school; here we go | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 19 2007, 12:37 AM (4,232 Views) | |
| Petra_stone_girl | Oct 19 2007, 12:37 AM Post #1 |
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ok so the big topic in the news here is Should schools be allowed to give their middle school girls (for those not familiar with the united states thats 11- 13/14 year olds) birth control pills i want to hear what guys and girls alike have to say before i put my opinion but rest assured i will im just REALLY busy this week so until i get on next.... LET THE RANTS......BEGIN!!!!!!!! :D :P |
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| Deleted User | Oct 19 2007, 01:00 AM Post #2 |
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OMG!! 11-year olds?? That's just too young! They haven't even hit puberty yet. Wow, I didn't even think about guys when I was that young :blink: ok, so maybe I was a tomboy... but still... This can't be good... birth control pills imitate estrogen... this could seriously mess girls up. I don't agree with birth control pills for adults, there's no way I could see this as a good thing :angry: Messing up with a girl's hormones at such a young age is just wrong not to mention the chances of these girls becoming infertile increase drastically. If they are seriously desperate they should just use condoms <_< |
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| boo-chan | Oct 19 2007, 01:06 AM Post #3 |
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I think this is something the parents should discuss and permit. Not the schools. They can go ahead and promote condoms. But birth control pills? for middle schoolers? That's something that would just imply that "go ahead, have all the sex you want" and it does not responsibility. im shocked. <_< |
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| joeljjison | Oct 19 2007, 01:16 AM Post #4 |
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in what sense is this? all the girls get them, or all girls are entitled to them if they need them? i would have thought someone in need of one wouldnt be denied anyway.. but i dont see why the school should have anything to do with supplying them. also, considering the existence of a legal age of consent, supplying birth control pills to people significantly below it is saying 'go have sex'. i don't really have any objection to birth control in general though. i think it far more inhumane to selfishly force the world onto someone on a whim than to take birth control pills. its bloody silly to me the abhorrence people have of them. its like criticizing people for orgasming, as a waste of sperm. its not hard to regret someone elses existence. people do regret their own children's existence too, abusing them, or belittling them, not intending to have them. Never existing in the place would surely be a better alternative |
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| Deleted User | Oct 19 2007, 02:14 AM Post #5 |
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Middle Schoolers!!!!! They're just Kids!!!!! What are these people thinking??? Kids shouldn't even have sex in their minds at that age. I think parents need to talk about this with their kids and fast |
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| boo-chan | Oct 19 2007, 02:19 AM Post #6 |
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There is nothing wrong with birth control pills. Obviously, as it has been created for a reason. but schools giving it to middle schoolers :angry: What exactly is their message? Joel, i think you're going slightly off topic. |
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| redmage | Oct 19 2007, 03:03 AM Post #7 |
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Wow.... uh.... interesting topic. Well, I think it's fairly simple issue really, just one made complicated through political agendas. First off, Middle school is too young. I think most reasonable people would agree, you shouldn't do anything that might feasibly encourage an 11 year old to have sex, no matter how minor it may be. Lets leave that until at least 15-16 years of age. Second, birth control pills should NEVER be given to students at school. My issue here isn't that it may encourage (or at least appear to turn a blind eye toward) sex, but that they're birth control PILLS. It's a medication, and any time you take medication, there are risks involved, no matter how slight they may be. There's a reason they have to go through the FDA. If schools give out birth control pills, or any pills for that matter, then it's only a matter of time before someone has a serious problem. If parents want to give them to their kids, then they should go ahead, but that's just not the school's responsibility. |
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| boo-chan | Oct 19 2007, 03:58 AM Post #8 |
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I wanted to bring up that risks with pills part, but I didn't know how. so I'll say, "What Magey said." Psshh.. i hope if they do give out the pills, then they also give out the information with pills and stuff. The side effects totally freaked me out. blood clots =S creeped out just by thinking about it. and moreeee And its so not simple. you cant forget one. if you forget one, then you take it as soon as you remember. if you forget more than 2 or 3, i think you have start another pack. @.@ so complicated. its not just birth control... it affects your hormones and stuff. Maybe all that will scare them away. :lol: |
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| joeljjison | Oct 19 2007, 05:00 AM Post #9 |
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"Joel, i think you're going slightly off topic." True, but something that always winds me up is when i'm told that when i respond to a 'thread'. Ignoring the whole side effects thing, seeing as i know nothing about them, and am not usually inclined to believe things i'm told unless i understand their truth I agree they should definitely not be provided by schools. It's not like schools expect people to have sex within the confines ! If they do, something is severely wrong. Its the parent and the childs responsibility. Sex ed exists for a reason. As does the talk... Incidentally has anyone here actually ever had the talk? Does it even exist? I only know about it from books :lol: |
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| boo-chan | Oct 19 2007, 06:22 AM Post #10 |
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no actually i never got the talk.. nor did i have a "health class" with a similar talk.. thank god. lol. The side effects are pretty accurate. but does not necessarily mean it always occurs. you can google it. i think it would be unhealthy for pre-teens. |
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| Petra_stone_girl | Oct 20 2007, 12:10 AM Post #11 |
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okay so a few facts i left out last time or thought of since then this actually happened a school in Maine gave their middle schoolers a choice of taking birth control without parental consent Birth control pills contain low doses of both estrogen and progestin. One type contains progestin alone. These hormones are similar to the natural hormones that control a woman's menstrual cycle. Different brands of pills contain different amounts of estrogen and progestin. now like all medicines they will change you personality wise okay so personal story time im in 10th grade thats 16 years old and i go to like the "good" school comparitively it is a public school but everyone thinks its a private anyway so by 5 th grade 10 years old i know for sure one girls in my class had already had sex. she also already had her period. she had a baby boy around 2 years ago too. another girl my age is just about to have a baby too now that i think about it. they are from 2 totally different social statuses and races now unfortunately i can see both sides of any story.... on the one hand it is good that they have birth control pills for those who need it but on the other they arent telling parents of this fact i agree that 11 is too young but u also have to think of the other grades there are planty of kids that are sexually active at 12 and 13 years old on. i wish it wasnt so but these days kids imitate what is on the internet or on t.v so i was forced to take health class...had been dreading it since our coach first told us about it in 5th grade... hes is a sick man he has this video gauranteed to make at least one person puke :o BUT dadada our county had a big drought and caught fire for months and i didnt have to watch it YAY :lol: and now i will leave u with this coment i saw on t.v. "Come on people! Look at it this way, would you rather have an 11 year old on birth control, or a pregnant 11 year old! Think people!" |
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| joeljjison | Oct 20 2007, 01:17 AM Post #12 |
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What a bleeping stupid comment. I'd rather have a virgin 11 year old that gets on with school. It isn't just love thats over glorified, its sex. If the girl has to ask parents to provide birth control pills, and can't get them themselves, then i imagine they'd be somewhat discouraged. theres enough people in this world. we dont need people with no self control procreating.. i doubt they'd raise children v well. i was having a lift with my mate, and some stupid woman with a pram and child, goes out into the road in front of us, without looking properley. people like this shouldnt be allowed to have children... nor chavs.. or people who can't afford to give them a decent life. they have feelings too, and your child is going to effect other people. and why is having children so glorified too.. hmm i'll just go get my tomato shield. |
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| Petra_stone_girl | Oct 20 2007, 01:30 AM Post #13 |
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"If the girl has to ask parents to provide birth control pills, and can't get them themselves" Sometimes girls ask for reasons other than sex....like me i asked my mom if i could get on the pill but for....other reasons she said no i have to just deal with it...that is not fair "and why is having children so glorified too.. hmm" people procreate to carry their lineage more often than not... yes sometimes u have couples that sincerely love each other and want a baby but there sometimes it is best not to have a child my friend shes not very maternal..at all... her mom told her her graduation present is a hysterectomy but anyway.....that may change but she already knows she doesnt really want kids Some people just arent cut out for raising children...BUT THEY STILL DO it hurts the child more than the parents "i'll just go get my tomato shield. " will it stand up to a watermelon u think? death by watermelon <snicker> i still cant get over that |
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| joeljjison | Oct 20 2007, 01:50 AM Post #14 |
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"If the girl has to ask parents to provide birth control pills, and can't get them themselves" Sometimes girls ask for reasons other than sex....like me i asked my mom if i could get on the pill but for....other reasons she said no i have to just deal with it...that is not fair" Shows what i know .. "people procreate to carry their lineage more often than not... yes sometimes u have couples that sincerely love each other and want a baby" the first point, selfish 'pick a word's... also some just do it because everyone else does. because of people badgering my parents about whether they were having a child yet, i have to live feeling like im only provided out of a regretted feeling of obligation. i think its very rare for anyone to be happy with their lot though. if less people had children, the children that were around, would have less competitiion in life... surely if people were less selfish, more people could enjoy doing what they want to in life. " but there sometimes it is best not to have a child my friend shes not very maternal..at all... her mom told her her graduation present is a hysterectomy but anyway.....that may change but she already knows she doesnt really want kids " hmm, don't you mean she REALLY doesn't want kids? is a main principle of her life sodomy? sounds quite final... "Some people just arent cut out for raising children...BUT THEY STILL DO it hurts the child more than the parents" People think its their right |
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| Deleted User | Oct 23 2007, 09:58 PM Post #15 |
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Birth control in middle school...? That's a really sad thought. Kids that little shouldn't be even thinking about sex let alone having sex that young. I mean, they're what? Eleven to Fourteen years old? Not saying the shouldn't be aware of sex, because that's just dumb. It's important for them to know about it. Dealing out Birth Control in Middle Schools would be like saying, "It's okay to have sex when you're barely a preteen or a teen." I mean, I could understand if this was debating about Birth Control Distribution in College, because then I might be able to at least listen to the other side. But because this is dealing with Middle School, I absolutely vote, "No". ((Edit: Typoed "thought")) |
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