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'Firefly' Prompts Science To Pick Up 'Fringe' Reruns
Topic Started: May 27 2012, 01:18 PM (306 Views)
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Looks like the Science Channel has bought the rights to air reruns of "Fringe". I enjoyed their run of "Firefly". Kind of weird that they are incorporating more and more science fiction into their programming, but I guess it can't be easy drawing in viewers for a pure science channel.

'Firefly' Prompts Science To Pick Up 'Fringe' Reruns
Cable channel will have non-exclusive rights to rebroadcast the Fox series


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I really hated Firefly myself, but I've yet to see Fringe and I'm looking forward to it.
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May 27 2012, 03:09 PM
I really hated Firefly myself, but I've yet to see Fringe and I'm looking forward to it.
I hated "Firefly" at first too. I had difficulty reconciling the space western concept on this show. However, I eventually went back and viewed the season again and I found myself really loving it. I think if you watch the movie "Serenity", it will help you look at the series in a new light. It definitely did me.

With "Fringe", I started out liking the show, but the stories became too loopty. I dropped it last season, but I am considering picking it up again when it returns this fall.

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May 28 2012, 06:33 PM
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May 27 2012, 03:09 PM
I really hated Firefly myself, but I've yet to see Fringe and I'm looking forward to it.
I hated "Firefly" at first too. I had difficulty reconciling the space western concept on this show. However, I eventually went back and viewed the season again and I found myself really loving it. I think if you watch the movie "Serenity", it will help you look at the series in a new light. It definitely did me.

With "Fringe", I started out liking the show, but the stories became too loopty. I dropped it last season, but I am considering picking it up again when it returns this fall.

Add me to the camp that really did not get into "Firefly" at first. Whedon's work eventually won me over. However, I really thought it wasn't much more than an American version of "Blake's 7". I still think there are some vague similarlities.

Jayne on "Firefly" is a cruder version of "Blake's" Avon.
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May 29 2012, 03:02 PM
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truespock
May 27 2012, 03:09 PM
I really hated Firefly myself, but I've yet to see Fringe and I'm looking forward to it.
I hated "Firefly" at first too. I had difficulty reconciling the space western concept on this show. However, I eventually went back and viewed the season again and I found myself really loving it. I think if you watch the movie "Serenity", it will help you look at the series in a new light. It definitely did me.

With "Fringe", I started out liking the show, but the stories became too loopty. I dropped it last season, but I am considering picking it up again when it returns this fall.

Add me to the camp that really did not get into "Firefly" at first. Whedon's work eventually won me over. However, I really thought it wasn't much more than an American version of "Blake's 7". I still think there are some vague similarlities.

Jayne on "Firefly" is a cruder version of "Blake's" Avon.
Actually, I kind of enjoyed Blake's 7, poorly done as it was...just campy enough to be forgiven for it's low budget and lack of imagination. As it happens, Avon was my very favorite character because (and I KNOW you'll never have guessed this!) he is just like me--a misunderstood sarcasm artist with a heart of gold, but zero tolerance for human foibles!

So, was Serenity meant to be seen before or after the bulk of the Firefly series?
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truespock
May 29 2012, 03:18 PM
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May 29 2012, 03:02 PM
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May 28 2012, 06:33 PM
truespock
May 27 2012, 03:09 PM
I really hated Firefly myself, but I've yet to see Fringe and I'm looking forward to it.
I hated "Firefly" at first too. I had difficulty reconciling the space western concept on this show. However, I eventually went back and viewed the season again and I found myself really loving it. I think if you watch the movie "Serenity", it will help you look at the series in a new light. It definitely did me.

With "Fringe", I started out liking the show, but the stories became too loopty. I dropped it last season, but I am considering picking it up again when it returns this fall.

Add me to the camp that really did not get into "Firefly" at first. Whedon's work eventually won me over. However, I really thought it wasn't much more than an American version of "Blake's 7". I still think there are some vague similarlities.

Jayne on "Firefly" is a cruder version of "Blake's" Avon.
Actually, I kind of enjoyed Blake's 7, poorly done as it was...just campy enough to be forgiven for it's low budget and lack of imagination. As it happens, Avon was my very favorite character because (and I KNOW you'll never have guessed this!) he is just like me--a misunderstood sarcasm artist with a heart of gold, but zero tolerance for human foibles!

So, was Serenity meant to be seen before or after the bulk of the Firefly series?
"Serenity" wraps up "Firefly". It is done well enough that anyone who has not seen the series can at least enjoy the film. It explains enough to give you the context for the story.
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I own both, but haven't seen Serenity.

Thanks.
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May 29 2012, 03:18 PM
Actually, I kind of enjoyed Blake's 7, poorly done as it was...just campy enough to be forgiven for it's low budget and lack of imagination. As it happens, Avon was my very favorite character because (and I KNOW you'll never have guessed this!) he is just like me--a misunderstood sarcasm artist with a heart of gold, but zero tolerance for human foibles!
I never took Avon as one that had a heart of gold. Especially, since the series wrapped with him seemingly killing Blake. There aren't many in the crew that are very admirable. In that regard the series itself is quite groundbreaking.

I think, again, if you look at it "Blake's 7" had to be some kind of inspiration for "Firefly". If I were to ever have the chance to ask Whedon anything that would be my question to him. You have an authoritarian government that had suyccessfully put down a previous rebellion. You have a universe devoid of aliens. Humans with some abilities beyond those of normal folks (i.e. River and other government types). A rebel captain that has never really given up the fight, leading a crew composed of individuals with their own agendas. Clearly, if the series ("Firefly") had gone on we would have seen a new revolution.
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May 29 2012, 08:18 PM
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Actually, I kind of enjoyed Blake's 7, poorly done as it was...just campy enough to be forgiven for it's low budget and lack of imagination. As it happens, Avon was my very favorite character because (and I KNOW you'll never have guessed this!) he is just like me--a misunderstood sarcasm artist with a heart of gold, but zero tolerance for human foibles!
I never took Avon as one that had a heart of gold. Especially, since the series wrapped with him seemingly killing Blake. There aren't many in the crew that are very admirable. In that regard the series itself is quite groundbreaking.

I think, again, if you look at it "Blake's 7" had to be some kind of inspiration for "Firefly". If I were to ever have the chance to ask Whedon anything that would be my question to him. You have an authoritarian government that had suyccessfully put down a previous rebellion. You have a universe devoid of aliens. Humans with some abilities beyond those of normal folks (i.e. River and other government types). A rebel captain that has never really given up the fight, leading a crew composed of individuals with their own agendas. Clearly, if the series ("Firefly") had gone on we would have seen a new revolution.
Avon's curmudgeonly ways were merely a defensive shield, just as they are with me. In the end, he usually managed to do the right and moral thing, no matter how much he might have griped about it. His murder of Blake in the final ep. came about because he believed that Blake had betrayed them all--something which for a sensitive soul like Avon, simply could not go unredressed.

One of the few really interesting aspects of Blake's 7, in the first place, is that it seems to ask us to look beyond superficial character flaws to see the true person inside...something that we could all do with a lot more off, right here on 21st century Earth, don't you think?!

Ultimately, I just didn't get those same subtle overtones from Firefly.
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May 30 2012, 04:20 PM
Ultimately, I just didn't get those same subtle overtones from Firefly.
Probably because the series did not have adequate time to develop. It ran for only 13 episodes, not a lot of time. What you see in it is the potential to be a lot more.
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Ultimately, I just didn't get those same subtle overtones from Firefly.
Probably because the series did not have adequate time to develop. It ran for only 13 episodes, not a lot of time. What you see in it is the potential to be a lot more.
You're probably right about that. So, what did you think about the 13 ep. run of Crusade, the Babylon 5 sequel? Seems to me that one faced a similar problem.
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I think it did. Then, too, I think Turner's channel wasn't the best fit for that to begin with.

Also, I find B5/Crusade's creator a bit frustrating. J. Michael Strazcynski is a master of being able to build up to a climax with his stories. Unfortunately, his resolutions often don't measure up to the build up (look at his Shadow/Vorlon conclusion: they just up and left together).
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I think it did. Then, too, I think Turner's channel wasn't the best fit for that to begin with.

Also, I find B5/Crusade's creator a bit frustrating. J. Michael Strazcynski is a master of being able to build up to a climax with his stories. Unfortunately, his resolutions often don't measure up to the build up (look at his Shadow/Vorlon conclusion: they just up and left together).
Yeah, I never really did figure that one (the Shadow wars) out. Thought the overall series was a pretty good ride though. Loved all the PsiCorps stuff. I'm trying to get my wife interested in B-5 now but she doesn't seem too impressed, so far. She likes a story that wraps up in an hour and ends happily. Voyager is about her speed, I think.

Strazcynski seems to have done the same thing with his comic book (Ultimate Spider-Man) writing. Just hasn't quite got the knack of a really strong endgame, I guess.
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