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Ridley Scott's Alien will be 3-D and—a trilogy, too?; [Updated] Alien prequel squashed
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Topic Started: Mar 7 2010, 11:11 AM (279 Views)
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Mar 7 2010, 11:11 AM
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Ridley Scott's Alien will be 3-D and—a trilogy, too?
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 All the Alien reboot news that's slowly been coming out over the past year has been exciting, but now we're really starting to salivate. First we learned there was going be a prequel, and that Tony and Ridley Scott would be involved, though neither would direct. Then we found out that Ridley Scott was stepping in to direct after all. And a few months ago, he let slip a few details about the plot—that the film wouldn't deal with the backstory to that giant alien ship the crew of the Nostromo discovered in his 1979 original movie. But now it all gets even more interesting, because Roger Christian, art director for the original Alien, spilled big news over at shadowlocked: "Ridley's doing the next Alien in 3D." And in even bigger news than that, the film may turn out to be the first of a trilogy: Ridley told me some of his ideas when we were here in Toronto. He has a very clear understanding of where this should go. They kind of stopped dead one of the greatest horror franchises there's ever been, and it had legs to go on. So I'm hoping he'll revive another three. The world certainly wants it, and the fans want it—everybody. Now, perhaps Christian is only speaking for himself and not Scott with his talk of a three-quel. But it does make us wonder whether the two have discussed the possibility, and whether it could be more than just idle speculation. In any case, even if the trilogy talk is just a rumor, the 3-D sounds solid, so—can you think of any scene better suited for 3-D than an Alien chestburster? Not us!
Having seen how far advanced 3-D has come (e.g. with Avatar), I am all for a 3-D Alien. The format is freakin' amazing. I just need a bettter pair of glasses. The ones the theater lets you use are uncomfortable.
I really don't care for a Trilogy though. How exactly did the franchise stop dead? It went on for a long time with four movies. They progressively got worse with each movie IMO.
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Mar 7 2010, 04:36 PM
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It pretty much stopped dead after "Aliens" in my opinion. It really should have stopped there because I found the series tanked creatively and really became a combination of a rehash of what we had already seen and typical slasher/monster flicks.
I really don't care if they do this in 3-D. My worry is that, despite Scott's quality as a director this could really bankrupt the franchise creatively. On the other hand, again due to Scott's involvement, there is a possibility that this could revive it and take it in new and inventive directions. I think the former is more likely than the latter.
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Mar 8 2010, 08:29 AM
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Alien and the following movies where in my opinion good box office movies; something worth sitting in a theater with a tub of popcorn and a soda (now water). They never translated well to follow on watches at home. But there was always something enjoyable watching someone’s stomach explode on the big screen. Even the last movie was worthwhile seeing in the theater, though it was clearly the weakest of the four.
I would be inclined to go to the movies to see another one of these. But I have a ever growing distaste for Hollywood and its ability to turn out worthwhile movies. I never go to the movies anymore, and Friday night my wife dragged me to see “wolfman”; my god did I want to burn the theater down to the ground in protest of how lame Hollywood has gotten. All gimmicks no substance; and all though they hang their hats on the gimmicks they can’t even get them right. I’m sure a Alien remake will be no different.
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Mar 8 2010, 12:14 PM
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Alien and the following movies where in my opinion good box office movies; something worth sitting in a theater with a tub of popcorn and a soda (now water). They never translated well to follow on watches at home.
I think the first one still translated pretty good to the small screen. If you watch it closely it really is a big time suspense movie for most of the time. People looking around corners, crawling through small, tight spaces, etc. It's a very atmospheric movie. The rest in the series are definitely more geared to the bigger screen.
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Mar 13 2010, 11:18 AM
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I think the first one still translated pretty good to the small screen. If you watch it closely it really is a big time suspense movie for most of the time. People looking around corners, crawling through small, tight spaces, etc. It's a very atmospheric movie. The rest in the series are definitely more geared to the bigger screen.[/quote]Actually, I think the aliens were a little more frightening when you only caught glimpses of them, like in the first movie. Sometimes your imagination and the great unknown can be more daunting than the real thing.
I think the Alien movies could do very well in 3-D considering all the chest-bursting, blood-spurting, in-your-face-teeth-gnashing, saliva-drooling, and tail-whipping. Definitely a lot of good material for 3-D special effects. However, I hope that isn't all the movie is supposed to be about -- I want a solid storeyline, too.
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Dec 19 2010, 10:02 AM
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H.R. Giger back for Alien prequel? Yes, says his wife
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Ridley Scott has already come back to direct the new Alien prequel. Now another name crucial to the success of the original movie might be on board as well.
According to Bleeding Cool, Swiss artist H.R. Giger might be coming back to work on the prequel as well. Giger's wife, Carmen Scheifele, reportedly told a Swiss television program called Glanz & Gloria that her husband was going to re-team with Scott to do design work on the movie.
Giger's work on the first Alien, which included designs for the derelict alien spacecraft found by the crew of the Nostromo, the corpse of the long-dead "Space Jockey" and of course the Alien itself in all its forms, was iconic. His creations not only made Alien one of the most visually influential sci-fi films of the past 30 years, but won the artist an Academy Award and exposed his work to a whole new audience. He did come back to do some work on Alien 3, but that was a less happy experience for the artist and many of his concepts were unused.
Now, we have to caution that the report by Bleeding Cool was taken from a German fansite called AVP Galaxy and translated into English via Google. Which means that, frankly, the whole thing should be taken lightly until there's any sort of official confirmation of Giger's involvement. In fact, we'd suggest being doubly suspicious since there have been a slew of Alien prequel rumors lately, none of which turned out to be true.
But if it is true, how cool would it be to have H.R. Giger returning to work on the Alien prequel? Would that be a major coup for Ridley Scott or what?
Pretty cool, if the report turns out to be true.
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Jan 15 2011, 02:36 PM
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Update:
The Alien prequel is now officially dead, but a new movie project emerges. I would much rather they maintain the integrity of the Alien franchise, than trying to shove what appears to be a new mythos under the Alien name.
----------------------- Alien prequel: It's dead as disco
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Well, that's it, it seems, for the highly-anticipated return of Ridley Scott to the Alien franchise. The 73 year-old director has worked so extensively on the script by Lost co-creator Damon Lindelof and many other sources of input that the famous movie monster, known for a complicated life-cycle, has evolved itself into...nothing. The Alien Paradise project, rumoured to have an Avatar-style jungle-vibe, is now a new and original SF movie called Prometheus, starring Noomi Rapace.
Prometheus was the Titan in Greek mythology that gave the gift of fire to mortals and subsequently got referenced a lot during the industrial revolution, most notably in Mary Shelley's alternative title for Frankenstein: The Modern Prometheus, and this seems to fit in with what we have heard about the Alien prequel script featuring a race of creatures (formerly the 'Space Jockey' species found fossilised in 1979's Alien) that genetically engineer a deadly new breed of predator (nothing to do with the AVP sub-franchise).
That Scott is still making a new SF movie remains cause for anticipation and celebration, and in a way, much as I love the Alien franchise as no other, I'm glad that the project seems set now to be an 'original' piece, freeing the director to leverage a fresh set of ideas and a new visual aesthetic. On the latter point, I wonder if Scott considers H.R. Giger too bound-in to the Alien aesthetic to be a potential contributor to Prometheus, in the wake of his addition to the conceptual crew of the now-dead Alien prequel.
The news about the 'mutation' came via 20th Century Fox's Twitter feed, and subsequently was fleshed out by Ridley Scott:
“While Alien was indeed the jumping off point for this project, out of the creative process evolved a new, grand mythology and universe in which this original story takes place. The keen fan will recognize strands of Alien’s DNA, so to speak, but the ideas tackled in this film are unique, large and provocative. I couldn't be more pleased to have found the singular tale I'd been searching for, and finally return to this genre that's so close to my heart.”
Scott's previous two entries in the SF genre, Alien and Blade Runner (1982), remain among the most influential entries in SF cinema. Prometheus will star Rapace as scientist Elizabeth Shaw (cast by Scott after the director was impressed with her work in The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo), with Charlize Theron and Angelina Jolie mooted as possible co-stars in a script that previous rumours have outlined as featuring a female-manned spaceship crew with a distinctly lesbian atmosphere.
Dan O'BannonSomewhere out there the late Dan O'Bannon is breathing a sigh of relief. When I asked the Alien co-creator in 2007 what he'd like to see happen to the franchise, he said "I’d like to see it stop. A horror movie’s a fragile thing, and once you’ve gotten past the original, it isn’t scary anymore. So you do a bunch of sequels to a horror movie, all they do is drain any remaining impact out of the original...it’s not as effective as it would have been if you had just left it alone. "
I didn't entirely agree with O'Bannon, having enjoyed the thrills and touches of originality in Aliens 2-4, but at this stage one does feel that the xenomorph has probably had its finest hour, and that continuing with the series would be akin to Hammer drawing back Christopher Lee time and again for the ever-diminishing returns on its 1950s-1970s Dracula franchise. With the aliens' inclusion in the two dreadful Alien Vs. Predator movies, one can only be glad that Abbott and Costello are long dead. I want to relive the thrill of the Alien experience, but perhaps it can't be recaptured again after so much exposure, particularly as a CGI-driven project.
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Jan 15 2011, 04:02 PM
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I haven't read your whole article, but there was another one and it also indicated that "Alien" was done, but that this film would take place in the same universe as "Alien".
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Jan 15 2011, 05:22 PM
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I haven't read your whole article, but there was another one and it also indicated that "Alien" was done, but that this film would take place in the same universe as "Alien". Do you think the "Alien" universe is all that interesting without Ripley?
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Jan 16 2011, 02:29 AM
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With the right script, potentially yes.
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