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Stargate: Universe; Discussion Thread ** Episode Spoilers**
Topic Started: Sep 28 2009, 06:30 PM (791 Views)
24thcenstfan
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Stargate: Universe will finally be premiering this Friday, October 2nd at 9:00pm EST on Syfy.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1286039/


Show synopsis:

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The show's plot is: After unlocking the mystery of the Stargate's ninth chevron, a team of explorers travels to an unmanned starship called the Destiny, launched by The Ancients at the height of their civilization as a grand experiment set in motion, but never completed.

What starts as a simple reconnaissance turns into a never ending mission, as the Stargate Universe crew discovers the ship is unable to return to Earth, and they must now fend for themselves aboard the Destiny.

The crew will travel to the far reaches of the universe, connecting with each of the previously launched Stargates, thus fulfilling the Destiny's original mission. Challenges will arise though as the ship comes into range of Stargates placed centuries ahead of the Destiny and the crew is unable to control the ship's navigational schedule. If someone is left behind, there is no way to go back for them, adding to the drama of encountering new races, enemies and adventures.

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Episode List

Season One
1. Air - Part I (Oct 2.)
2. Air - Part II (Oct 2.)
3. Air - Part III (Oct. 9)
4. Darkness (Oct. 16)
5. Light (Oct. 23)
6. Water (Oct. 30)
7. Earth
8. Time
9. Life
10. Justice
11. Space
12. Divided
13. Faith
14. Human
15. Lost
16. Sabotage
17. Pain
18. Subversion
19. Incursion - Part I
20. Incursion - Part II
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This still sounds a lot like "Stargate: Voyager" to me, but I will look it over.
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Sep 29 2009, 05:02 PM
This still sounds a lot like "Stargate: Voyager" to me, but I will look it over.
It did to me at first too, but the preview trailers and other promo stuff leads me to believe it could offer something different. Could being the operative word. :lol: :D
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Tonight's the night of the two-hour premiere! :happyclap:

Air, Part's I and II will air starting at 9:00pm EST. Knowing Syfy, they will reair this premiere several times (at least once right after this airing...at 11:00pm). So check your menu if for some reason you miss it.
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^^^
That means 6 & 8 for me then...
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Oct 2 2009, 11:40 AM
^^^
That means 6 & 8 for me then...
Really…so early?

I thought they would air the show at 9:00pm PDT.
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^^^
We have a satellite subscription and many of the networks are on east coast feeds unless they also offer a west coast channel of the same network (i.e. Disney or Nickelodeon, or premium movie networks like HBO and Showtime). So a 9 PM time automatically translates into a 6 PM time here.

First impression of the show?

Looks good. However, I am thinking the comparison might be closer to "Space: 1999" rather than Voyager. Reason for that is that the ships flight is uncontrollable and the emphasis may be more about finding a suitable world to settle.
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^^ I'm going to watch it again today without commercials before I comment on it.
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Overall I enjoyed the premiere. I think Dr. Rush and Mathboy are going to be the key leads in the series.

Some of the negatives… the unnecessary (to the story) sex scene in the supply closet, the shaky camera work and the one soldier with the bad attitude (very cliché).

Story wise, I’m a little confused about why they can’t just use a Stargate on one of the planets to dial home (to Earth) if they can’t use the one on the ship. Maybe I missed that, or it will be explained in Part III.
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I believe they will be visiting their first planet tonight in Air, Part III.

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24thcenstfan
Oct 5 2009, 06:12 PM
Story wise, I’m a little confused about why they can’t just use a Stargate on one of the planets to dial home (to Earth) if they can’t use the one on the ship. Maybe I missed that, or it will be explained in Part III.
I think that they are out of range for a direct dial to Earth. If I remember right, Stargates do have certain limitations, but you can use one to connect to another to connect to another to cover vast distances ... if you know where you are to begin with and there Earth is and where all the others are that will connect you in between.

I had severe reservations about this show during the premier. I didn't like the jumping back-and-forth in time sequences. Fortunately, this episode last night seemed to run in a more linear fashion and was less confusing.

I think the comparison to the Space 1999 show is pretty accurate ... can't really control the ship and being just along for the ride while trying to figure it all out.

Looks like we already lost 3 "redshirts" last night in the people who went to one of the other addresses that the Ancients tried to block. Hopefully this season we will learn why some of those addresses are blocked. Perhaps lessons like that are necessary to help determine who in the still-developing heirarchy should be making decisions for the whole group. Only time and experience will show the group who they should trust as their leaders.
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Oct 10 2009, 01:38 PM
24thcenstfan
Oct 5 2009, 06:12 PM
Story wise, I’m a little confused about why they can’t just use a Stargate on one of the planets to dial home (to Earth) if they can’t use the one on the ship. Maybe I missed that, or it will be explained in Part III.
I think that they are out of range for a direct dial to Earth. If I remember right, Stargates do have certain limitations, but you can use one to connect to another to connect to another to cover vast distances ... if you know where you are to begin with and there Earth is and where all the others are that will connect you in between.
There was also no DHD on that desert planet they were on. Although, Eli seemed to have some hand-held version to activate the gate.

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I had severe reservations about this show during the premier. I didn't like the jumping back-and-forth in time sequences. Fortunately, this episode last night seemed to run in a more linear fashion and was less confusing.

I thougth Part III was rather boring and was in eye roll mode at how they tried to make Scott more of a sensitive guy with Chloe. I can already tell they are going to put those characters together. I would prefer Chloe develop a relationship with Eli instead though.

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Looks like we already lost 3 "redshirts" last night in the people who went to one of the other addresses that the Ancients tried to block. Hopefully this season we will learn why some of those addresses are blocked. Perhaps lessons like that are necessary to help determine who in the still-developing heirarchy should be making decisions for the whole group. Only time and experience will show the group who they should trust as their leaders.

When they went through the gate, I thought the same thing about them being redshirts. :lol:

If they keep losing people, they are going to have a severe shortage of people to help maintain the ship. Unless people miraculously appear episode to episode. ;)

Hey, did you see that weird craft/thing separate from the ship at the end? I wonder what that was.
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New Episode tonight: Darkness

Tonight's episode is about Dr. Rush and company trying to figure out why the ship's power reserves are so low.

I take it there is going to be some "darkness" in this episode. :P



Edit: Oh yeah, and keep your head above water and don't forget to breathe. :lol: ;)
Edited by 24thcenstfan, Oct 16 2009, 07:59 PM.
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It will be interesting in the next episode to see what comes of the colonel's accusation that Dr. Rush knew that the Destiny ship would survive the trip through the star.

And, yes, I did notice that one little craft/ship/thingy separate from Destiny at the end of the previous episode ... wonder if we'll ever come back to that again?
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Unfortunately, I'm about two weeks behind on this series. They will re-air last week's episode before this week's episode. So I'll get somewhat caught up.

I'm really trying to hang in there, but the "boobs in space" running themes, and the characters that I too don't really care about (you mention something similar on another thread) are making it hard to bother.

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And, yes, I did notice that one little craft/ship/thingy separate from Destiny at the end of the previous episode ... wonder if we'll ever come back to that again?

I figure they wouldn't have bothered to include that if they weren't planning on making it a part of a future storyline. Or I could be giving them too much credit for setting up future plots. :D
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I can see they are really trying to make this show different from its two predecessors. The characters are more uniquie in many ways. The story lines are sufficiently different. They do seem to be making it "realistic" by not having the characters slip into already comfortable, previously held roles.

As far as the last two episodes go, I thought they were a tad predictable. Partly due to the fact that you just know they are not going to dump the ship and, secondly, the characters they stuck on the shuttle were some of those that are among the leads.
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You use another man’s body* to have sex with your wife (or is she is ex-wife?), then don’t be surprised if that man goes back later to have a bit of fun on his own. I guess we will find out next week about what Colonel Telford is going to do about what took place with his body.

*Since the host body is not aware of what is taking place while the other person's mind is possessing the body, this brings up the question of whether or not using the host's body to have sex is sexual assault or rape. I guess it would depend on the extent of the agreement that is undertaken before a person uses the Ancient’s communication stones. Colonel Telford certainly seemed surprised to be having sex with Young's wife when he temporarily blinked back into his body due to the disruption with the communication stones.

The SGC seriously needs to set some ground rules about using the stones. I'm surprised these people are even allowed to leave the base under the influence of the stones.
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I finally caught "Life" this past weekend (originally aired 11/20). The way some out there in Internet-land have been going on about this, I thought the ladies were going to be half naked and going at it like two wild animals. There were a couple of minor kisses and hugging (while still clothed) and that’s about it. All in all, they showed a loving couple spending time doing things that other couples do (eating dinner, talking, comforting…). I actually felt very sad for Camille’s long-distance circumstances. That's say a lot since I barely like any of the characters on this series.

I would rather see tasteful and respectful scenes like that than characters going at it in supply closets (like in the first episode). Or the very promiscuous woman who is having sex with different soldiers to cope with being away from home.

I was about to give up on this series, but I liked this episode enough to make me want to watch a little longer.

I also think they need to ditch these communication stones (despite the one decent "stone" episode). They are a ridiculous plot device that is tethering the storylines and the characters to Earth. They are acting as a baby blanket for the writers and keeping the writers from having to come up with more creative outward bound/adventurous stories. The stones are also being used in place of stories that could encourage everyone to focus on the here and now and to become a team, crew and a family.

The stones should have been introduced much later in the series (if at all). This might have provided a bit of hope for the crew after having had no contact for a long time (ala Star Trek: Voyager).

It is interesting that they are now providing chaperones for those using the Stones. That should have been the case from the start considering the security risk.

In general, I still care very little about these characters. The character and group development has been superficial at best.
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I've missed both "Life" and "Time" due to Thanksgiving holiday related stuff. I'd like to catch up with them when I have the time.

24, you're right on a number of levels about the Stones. Chaperones should have been the rule from moment one. Definite ethical issue regarding what happened between Telford/Young and Young's wife. I read that as a clear attempt to eventually generate an affair between Mrs. Young and Telford. I really do see the stones as nothing more than a plot device that the series should not have and does infact tie them very tightly to Earth. We've seen that communications can be disrupted at least momentarily, maybe an extended interruption is in order. Doubtful we'll get it, but it would be nice.
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