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| Topic Started: Sep 12 2008, 08:45 PM (915 Views) | |
| 24thcenstfan | Sep 12 2008, 08:45 PM Post #1 |
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*******Episode spoilers will be found on this thread******** The pilot episode for this show aired this week. It is a show that will be dealing with fringe science and unexplained phenomenon. A group of people headed up by Oliva Dunham will be tasked to investigate these incidents. Air Time: Tuesday at 9:00pm EST on Fox Writers/Producers: JJ Abrams, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman Director: Alex Graves The main stars are (actor/character): Anna Torv as Olivia Dunham Joshua Jackson as Peter Bishop John Noble as Dr. Walter Bishop Jasika Nicole as Astrid Farnsworth Lance Reddick as Phillip Broyles ------------------------------------ |
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| 24thcenstfan | Sep 12 2008, 08:46 PM Post #2 |
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Pilot Episode **This episode will air again Sunday night if you missed it this past Tuesday. I thought the show got off to a good start. Many of the concepts have been visited before in other shows, but I thought Abrams and company did a decent job presenting a good story. I liked that there were some twists in the story (i.e. I didn't see coming). For example, there being a twin involved. My mind did not immediately draw the connection that there were two involved. Or that this guy would infect his own brother and the rest of the plane. Also, the boyfriend/agent turning out to be one of the bad guys. The CGI/special effects were interesting and not overdone. There is a certain mood to this show that is going to take some getting used to. I also thought the few comedic scenes were a little too staged (forced). I think if the writing stays strong, in time the characters/show will develop a rhythm and I'll warm up to it much more. I'm looking forward to next week's episode. ---------------- I just watched an extended preview of this coming week's episode, and the ridiculous factor just went up several notches. I hope the episode turns out to be better than the preview. Edited by 24thcenstfan, Sep 14 2008, 08:54 PM.
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| TribbleMom | Sep 19 2008, 08:46 PM Post #3 |
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After the premier and the next episode, I still haven't quite decided if I'm going to really like this show or not. I like the quirkiness of the brilliant scientist getting out of the asylum, and his genius son who wants nothing to do with him but has to function as the father's guardian. I'm afraid, though, that there will be such an undercurrent of the "insider bad guys" that will get doled out bit by tiny bit, and that will become tedious. It also seems like if you happen to miss an episode, you're probably going to miss some crucial bits of info that will be the basis for other future episodes. |
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| 24thcenstfan | Sep 20 2008, 07:11 PM Post #4 |
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Yep, there definitely appears to be an underlying story arc that will carry on throughout the series. Massive Dynamics will I suspect play a part in this. The secretary lady who works for MD and is in the group that is aware of "the pattern", seems to be not as she pretends. I wouldn't be surprised if MD is causing the pattern (whatever the pattern is). I also like the quirky doctor. He seems to have issues with his bodily functions.  This past week’s episode was creepy. With the guy killing the women for their pituitary glands. The mood of the show is going to take some getting used to. I haven't warmed up totally to it yet. I'm going to stick with the show for a while though. Not all shows hit me immediately. |
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| 24thcenstfan | Sep 25 2008, 11:52 AM Post #5 |
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Well, that was an interesting episode this week. An aerosol that turns into a solid amber-like substance. The people were suspended in like statues. And ewww, they drilled into that guy's head (i.e. the human walkie talkie who was in tune with the ghost network). The writers could have easily jumped over into the psychic realm of story. I'm glad they kept it in the somewhat explainable scientific realm. My senses tell me that Agent Broyles isn't a bad guy, but his interaction with Nina Sharp (the woman from Massive Dynamics) sure is fishy. I wonder why they are only showing Sharp from MD, and not the big guy? Maybe just to create suspense. |
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| TribbleMom | Sep 25 2008, 10:05 PM Post #6 |
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I've been wondering if the big guy from MD is maybe dead or missing, and that's why we only ever see the woman. There's probably some underlying story there that will eventually be revealed over time. |
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| 24thcenstfan | Sep 26 2008, 07:29 AM Post #7 |
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^^ I didn't think about that. Or maybe he doesn't have a body and his brain is hooked up in some room masterminding behind the scenes.   |
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| TribbleMom | Sep 28 2008, 10:17 PM Post #8 |
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^^^ Then he must be a Provider from Triskellion. |
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| 24thcenstfan | Sep 29 2008, 08:10 PM Post #9 |
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LOL! Good Star Trek tie-in. I wouldn't be surprised to see some Trek references eventually on this series. |
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| TribbleMom | Oct 1 2008, 09:53 PM Post #10 |
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I'm still not sure I'll keep up with this series. Seems like each episode is introducing more questions than answers. |
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| 24thcenstfan | Oct 2 2008, 09:55 AM Post #11 |
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I like it so far. I think initially, there will be several questions introduced. Like a puzzle. It would be rather boring to me if the just laid it all out on the table up front (for this type of show that is). If they go seasons without giving insight into the big questions/the overall story arc, then I will become frustrated with that. My patience will eventually wear thin like it did with X-Files. |
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| 24thcenstfan | Oct 3 2008, 04:47 PM Post #12 |
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Opinion piece and news... Fox Orders More Fringe
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| 24thcenstfan | Oct 7 2008, 09:18 PM Post #13 |
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Fringe is not on this week, but should be back on next week. I hope you stick with it, TribbleMom. 
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| TribbleMom | Oct 7 2008, 09:55 PM Post #14 |
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I'll give it a few more weeks, at least. I have to see how they're bringing John back to life, seeing as he showed up, walking and breathing and speaking, in the very last moment of the last show. Like the reviewer said, though, there are so many questions and not very many answers. I don't mind dangling questions for a little while, but I will lose interest if most of the questions remain unanswered throughout a whole season. Maybe I just don't have a long enough attention span. That's why I gave up on the Heroes series, even though I found the characters compelling. Without answers and a solid sense of direction, I just didn't care that much about what they were doing. Same with the Enterprise series and the temporal cold war theme ... cryptic hints were dropped, but we never had a firm grip on what Future Guy's real objective was or who he was, so I just didn't care much about who "won" that cold war. |
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| 24thcenstfan | Oct 8 2008, 01:26 PM Post #15 |
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I wasn't sure if he was actually there or if Olivia was imagining him. Or maybe MD was doing some voodoo on a ghost channel or something. |
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| 24thcenstfan | Oct 16 2008, 06:22 PM Post #16 |
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Pretty good episode this week, I thought. We now know why Olivia is seeing her ex boyfriend/partner. I think the people at MD probably did some voodoo on his body, but I don't think it has anything to do with why Olivia is seeing him now (based on what Dr. Bishop said about him being a part of her consciousness). I thought that carrier pigeon idea was pretty ingenious. That is actually something that came off as realistic in the realm of future scientific capabilities. Glad the little birdies weren't hurt in the experiment. Looks like we are going to be seeing mysterious bald guy at every Pattern event. He doesn't seem like a bad guy to me though. I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be a good guy in the overall scheme of things. |
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| 24thcenstfan | Oct 22 2008, 06:39 PM Post #17 |
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After watching this week's episode, I'm convinced more than ever that Nina Sharpe is running MD. I have to wonder if there is just as much human experimentation going on in the real world as there is on this show. Quite creepy if there is. Re: The Pattern. If there is a Pattern, then someone has to be orchestrating it and manipulating all of these people/companies. If MD is doing the manipulation, why would Sharpe allow people that were doing experiments on MD's behalf (Intrepus) take a public fall. Hmmm, unless Nina Shape was just taking the eye further off MD. But their actions going public would make the public even more aware of human experimentation. Also, there is the "by chance" factor here. Nina made the deal with Peter, but it wasn't exactly something she initiated/orchestrated. Peter went to Nina Sharpe. Oh, what a tangled web they weave. That little tidbit about Nina Sharpe knowing Walter Bishop was interesting too. I think Peter was the product of some kind of experiment. |
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| TribbleMom | Oct 26 2008, 09:44 AM Post #18 |
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This show just keeps getting deeper and deeper. Now we've got the past relationship between Nina & Walter, and her obviously keeping tabs on Peter. Could he be their son? Is there anything this woman doesn't know about? And then there's the new element of Livy's father. He knows exactly where she lives, but apparently she can't trace him. And she's working for the FBI and can't figure out where he is? Something very odd about that scenario. I'm a little concerned that the meat of these stories may become lost in favor of the gross out/special effect factors of these shows. We still don't have much more information on "The Pattern" but we have a lot of memorable images, such as exploding heads from boiling brains (last night), people suspended in amber on a bus, the weird bald observer who apparently has no taste buds, transparent skin ... |
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| 24thcenstfan | Oct 28 2008, 12:42 PM Post #19 |
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TribbleMom, I got the impression that Peter is Nina and Walter's son. Whether that is true or not, we will see. Walter certainly has hinted at something pertaining Peter's past too. I had the same thoughts too about Olivia's father and her working for the FBI. I know she can't use FBI resources, but working for that organizaiton most likely has tought her investigatory skills. I'm sure she could do the work on her own time or hire some else to find her father. I suspect they are setting the story up to bring her father into the mix. I know I wouldn't go years having this person send a card in a semi-threatening "I know how to find you" way without trying to do something about it. I can't recall if she went into her father's background, but I wonder if he will be brought in in relation to The Pattern? Regarding the wow or shock factor. I think there has been a good balance of story and wow. There is more than enough substance there for me to tolerate gross rats and exploding heads and stuff. Yuck on the exploding head, btw. 
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| Swidden | Oct 29 2008, 03:17 AM Post #20 |
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I have been trying to follow this show. I think I am doing a fair job of keeping up with it. There are aspects to it that fall very much into "X-Files" territory (minus the aliens-- so far). The larger cast is more typical of Abrams & Co. than of the "X-Files", the focus on Mulder and Scully in the early seasons made that show easier to get into than this one. Some of it seems more reminiscent of Abrams previous series "Alias". |
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