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Election '08; Your current views...
Topic Started: Sep 14 2007, 08:31 PM (73 Views)
24thcenstfan
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How engaged are you at this point in the US Presidential Election 2008?


What is with all of these debates? There seems to be twice as many than in past elections.

I have watched maybe a few snippits of the debates that have been taking place. Just enough to know that we have a bunch of yahoos running for President in 2008. :lol: ;) ;)

Seriously, I think the candidates are a bit more interesting and viable than what we saw in 2004. It was a good bet that it was going to be Bush and Kerry long before the Primaries. Hard to say who will come out on top after the next Primaries. I think this is especially the case on the Republican side. LINK

I would like to see some third party debates going on. Right now it is the big two (Republican/Democrat). Nothing new there.
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TribbleMom
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I generally keep my political views to myself, but this is turning into an interesting election.
As a registered Democrat, I'm taking the most interest in the race between frontrunners Obama and Clinton. I haven't quite made up my mind yet between them, as there are some aspects I like about each. However, I'm afraid that I don't envision the vast majority of this nation as being quite "ready" to elect either a female or African American president yet. And that's too bad, as other nations around the world have already proven that either can be a fine choice for leadership, depending on the individual. What I would find most interesting would be if those two teamed up as president/VP candidates.
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I have always shied away from registering for any one party. I have issues with most parties out there so I just can't commit to one.

None of the candidates have grabbed me yet.

I do know that I am not going to be as open-minded as I was in the last election. Because of "my issues" there are some people that I have already eliminated (from the get-go) as a personal option.

TribbleMom, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Hillary Clinton and Obama were on the Democratic ticket. I seen Clinton winning in the primaries and then asking Obama to be her VP afterwards.

Depending on who wins the GOP primaries, I would say they (Clinton/Obama) have a big shot at winning the General Election.

I don't think the country is ready for a female President either. There is a good chance that they will get one anyway in 2008. So they will have to deal with it.

Personally, I would prefer a less controversial first female President (not that I have ruled out voting for her yet). Hillary Clinton brings with her a lot of baggage. Some of which belongs to her husband.
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ImpulseEngine
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I honestly haven't paid a great deal of attention yet, but I have largely settled on Hillary Clinton as my choice. I like both John Edwards and Barrack Obama as well, but I think Clinton would make the better President mostly because of her experience.

Honestly, I think a large part of why Hillary is so controversial is because she's female. Ever since she got involved in politics, she has been strong and, unfortunately, a lot of people - both men and women - feel threatened by a strong woman leader. I think many people foresaw her potential a long time ago and have tried just about everything to stand in her way.

Of course, Bill Clinton has also added to the controversy - both by the personal garbage that is his to own as well as the garbage not his that was stirred up by the opposition during his Presidency. But the way Hillary has endured and carried herself throughout just convinces me even more that she could be a great President.

The one and only concern that I do have about the possibility of a woman President right now is the seriousness of all the current issues related to Arab countries. Women are treated as subordinates in those countries and so I wonder how that could affect her negotiating power with them when they probably won't even respect her much.
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^^

I think her ability to break the sexist barrier will be child's play here in the US compared to the walls she will go up against in the Arab world.

Condolezza Rice has problems of her own when she deals with representatives from that region. That is with a male boss.

In the end though, they will have to deal with her on some level if they want to maintain relations with the US.

I would need to learn a lot more about Hillary's stances on certain issues before I could commit to voting for her.

My biggest issue with her right now is her desire to bring universal healthcare to the entire country. Some states have already begun to impliment universal healthcare policies. I would like the issue to be left up to the states. While you know I am not a conservative (or a strict constructionist), I do think there are limits to what the federal government should be administering. Sometimes I think our Presidents/representatives need to take a regular US Constitution refresher course.
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I don't yet know if this is true, but I heard a political analyst on the radio this morning saying that he doesn't think she is going to push for a national healthcare system that would replace existing healthcare options. Instead, she is supposedly going to work on making privately purchased healthcare more of an option (e.g., more affordable) for people that currently have no healthcare at all; especially for people who are employed full time, but whose employers don't offer healthcare benefits.
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If she takes a more private sector route, then she will probably be more well received by a wider variety of voters.

I have little doubt that she is going to win the Democratic nomination. So at some point I will have to examine her platform more thoroughly.
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