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Politics
Topic Started: Sep 13 2008, 09:00:28 PM (482 Views)
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Well, seeing as we have a healthy group of adult characters who work at the Ministry, I thought we'd make the political drama a little more political by giving them more background. This is mostly for reference, I'm not sure it will be much too much important, but at least it would give our Ministry characters more of a sense of where they're coming from.

What I mean is we might as well establish some rules for this political system, similar to the British parliament.

So here's how it works, I think:

Every five years there is an election, and certain officials are elected members of the Wizengamot, which is, of course, the law-making and judicial body of the Ministry.

Now Wizengamot officials are generally elected from two major parties, The Coalition of Warlocks and Mages, and the United Magical Confederation.

Now the Coalition is the more right wing party, and while there's nothing terribly wrong with them on their own (they tend to favor wizards over muggles and creatures, however) there has been quite a rise in pureblood-favoring members of this party, though none of them make a public statement of this. The most prominent members of this party include: Hugh Logan, Belladonna Quagmire, Alphonse de Ponte du Lac, Anton de Ponte du Lac, and Jacob Surla. Hugh Logan, the party leader, is the current Minister for Magic. Like all political parties, nothing is black and white and not everyone is a crook, but there seems to be a number of officials who are acting under some kind of hidden agenda...or so conspiracy theorists like to suggest.

The Confederation, on the other hand, is more left wing. They've been known to favor magical creatures rights and oppose legislation such as The Werewolf Registration act currently being proposed by Alphonse de Ponte du Lac. Now its not to say they don't have their fare share of corrupt bureaucrats in their midsts, but it is often that groups that feel left out of the Ministry's care often vote for this party. Though they are not the majority leaders in the Wizengamot, they do hold a large number of seats. The Coalition leads only by a small percentage.

In addition to these, other smaller parties exist that represent special interest groups, certain labor interests, ect., make up smaller, yet still very vocal, percentage of the Wizengamot. Incidentally, parties such as the British Goblin Goldsmith's Party, which is made up entirely of Goblins and represents the interests of that race, has never been elected a member of the Wizengamot. This is one of the things that makes for a lot of bad blood between Wizards and Goblins. There are currently no parties which represent the interests of Centaurs or Werewolves, and the Ministry has made little, if no effort in offering those groups an opportunity to join.

Now once the Wizengamot is elected, the party that is the majority leader (the one that has the most seats in the Wizengamot) is made Minister for Magic. The Minister may then choose his cabinet (the various officials and heads of departments like aides such as Belladonna Quagmire, the Senior Undersecretary Alphonse de Ponte du Lac, and the Auror Office Head Jacob Surla) from the members of the Wizengamot. While the Minister reserves the right to choose from his own party, it is generally best that he give some positions to members of other parties, or risk losing the support of those parties in the Wizengamot.

The Minister for Magic may retain his position for five years, or until the Wizengamot chooses (by a 2/3rd's majority) not to support him any longer. So it is important that the Minister remain in good standing with most of the Wizengamot, as they can either have him removed from office, or at the very least the few that are unhappy with him can vote against his policies at every turn.

The Wizengamot is currently 44% Coalition, 39% Confederation, and 17% made up of the smaller parties.

So...what do you guys think? This isn't actually all that important, but it gives our adult characters and the Ministry (and by extension, the whole RP) more of a leg to stand on when we have more of a background like this. If this is approved, I'll post it in the compendium, along with a list of who belong to what party. Whenever a member has a Ministry character approved, they will be asked to choose a party.
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I like it.

*adjusts Coalition button upon her cloak*
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John Holland
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I'm not entirely sure whether I should have put this in a new thread or to join it onto this thread. So Ian, if you don't mind me taking this thread on a little tangent.

I'd really like for students to be able to support different parties. Like, in Australia on University campuses we have students (if they are interested in politics) joining young versions of the political parties.

Such as the

Young Labour Left (The Campus based support of the ALP)
and Young Liberals (Campus based student body who supports the Liberal Party)

and often through involvement in these groups they get involved with the adult party and will often work for the party.

I'd like to start this for HIRP.

So students at Hogwarts can have groups like

Students for Coalition
and Young UMCs (or Young Confederates? I thought that sounded too U.S Civil War Era)

Does anyone like this idea?
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May 27 2010, 11:45:55 AM
I'm not entirely sure whether I should have put this in a new thread or to join it onto this thread. So Ian, if you don't mind me taking this thread on a little tangent.

I'd really like for students to be able to support different parties. Like, in Australia on University campuses we have students (if they are interested in politics) joining young versions of the political parties.

Such as the

Young Labour Left (The Campus based support of the ALP)
and Young Liberals (Campus based student body who supports the Liberal Party)

and often through involvement in these groups they get involved with the adult party and will often work for the party.

I'd like to start this for HIRP.

So students at Hogwarts can have groups like

Students for Coalition
and Young UMCs (or Young Confederates? I thought that sounded too U.S Civil War Era)

Does anyone like this idea?
Well, given that we went through the trouble to define political parties in the wizarding world, I would say you were always allowed to have your character support a particular party if you like. You really didn't need to ask permission to do that, nor would I want to force anyone to pick a side or even pay attention to that side of the world of HIRP (many in the real world ignore politics completely--especially here in the states) if they didn't want to.

However, the main issue with this now is that the Ministry is pretty much defunct. The Office of Magical Law Enforcement is running everything, and many of the highest ranking members of both parties are dead. The parties hardly exist anymore at the moment. They'll be back in some form at the end of this cycle, but right now there really is no Ministry and no political parties, hence the perceived need for order in the form of Martial Law.
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Mitchell Kalvor
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Maybe we can incorporate this into the next cycle? Ian makes a valid point in that the Ministry is gone, but if/when it comes back, this idea could be used. I do like it, and it could provide extra-curricular activities for the kiddies of the next-gen to participate in, or whatever.

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John Holland
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I agree with Mitch, but the point isn't just that it's created, that it is there for students to join.

Also, it also gives students a connection to politics. Apart from when the Ministry came into Hogwarts there was no connection, which meant that it wasn't related to students. If student bodies and clubs it meant that there could be political divisions in hogwarts.
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