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Brainstorming
Topic Started: Jan 3 2008, 02:22:46 AM (1,906 Views)
Leslie Harp
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Dave McKelvey
Jan 4 2008, 12:40 AM
I will change the legislation concerning character creation. As suggested (by who, I don't remember), second and (eventually) third year characters will require that you create and maintain a first year character for a period of x weeks.

Yay! Dave likes my suggestion! XD

As for the lack of future second-years problem, perhaps a group of volunteers could make it work? I know that I sometimes find it difficult to keep up with the characters I already have, but I think I would be willing to create some sort of psycho to try and liven things up in that year - if we could confirm a few others to do the same. I think that if people could be sure that there would be more activity, excitment, etc, they would be willing to make an additional character that could fit into that year. Just a thought...
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Annie Stones
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I'm not sure if I'm for or against, and I've got good arguments both ways. I would perhaps prefer a realistic year... But that would definitly mean the end of school once.

If all are in one year, then we don't have to set first, second and such. We could have one year all the time, therefore no need for an after school place...

And Leslie, they have Yvette already, so it would be nice for her to have an ally the same age. (but if they combine... DAMN I'M CONFUSED.)

I think I prefer not to combine, or else this would be one place of pure chaos for some months...
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Hellius Surla
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Tristan Nightshade
Jan 3 2008, 10:24 PM
PERSONALLY: Id like to keep the years seperate, gives it a more realistic feel and (ideally) there might come a time where we;d have 50 ppl in the class. And I can see Ian's point about too many conflicting storylines n one forum.

But then would come in Gabe's idea: We have two separate classes that split up different people from each other. If we do get 50 people, then we just split it in two or three sections.
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John Holland
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Hellius, I know you posted it ages ago but I wanted to bring up your first year character. Seeing as I've held this in for a while I don't mind saying this now. You say you abandoned the character because there wasn't enough to do. You never tried, the extent of your posts went from fighting with Hellius, to fighting with James. When you returned, great I was glad to see you back. However, I've said it to other people, while you put in lots of effort with Hellius which I was great full for. You wanted to create a new character. More then welcome to accommodate you. We wanted a first year though, because 2nd years are fine. Then you asked your character to be moved up. We lifted Hellius because his account had been active. This was on the condition that you CONTINUED to Roleplay with Abaddon, why because we needed the first years. I would know, I was the one that suggested that condition with Tristan.

The reason we have a lack of movement in first years is because the lack of active or even first years in general and ditching your character doesn't help the situation. It's funny, I was right about what would happen, and I'm not happy about it. Matter of fact I'm pissed off.

Another thing, get over Mascacra, regardless of what happened IRL. If she isn't coming back so what? thats for her to decide. You going on about it isn't going to help. We didn't go on about you leaving so how about you give it a break.

Class sizes, already difficult because they have to accommodate all the houses of a year level but also the different time-zones already are stretched. How do you propose we deal with this if every single person is in the same class? imagine having to scroll three pages down to respond to a conversation because 10-15 other characters having been role-playing between posts? It would be irritating. The advantages of a smalled class means that we can afford the waits between posts. Say with me and Tristan, because we live in Australia, can post and have a reply by the Americans on this forum not long after. It makes life easier without having to scroll through five pages of posts which are completely useless to your character.

The separate years is more convenient. Instead of focusing on destroying the year level system how about you start trying to even out your time between characters. What we don't need is one huge year level. What we need is a balance between the year levels, which isn't helped by an influx of characters all wanting to be in 2nd year. Most of the original and in general second years have role played in the first, whether through separate characters or through their own (yourself included) which is fantastic. However, there seem to be too many people wanting to jump into second year which means it is over crowded and unfair to those who are loyal to the R.P.

Wouldn't you agree?
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Annie Stones
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A point to John. I would gladly make more active firsties, but I already have three. Guess who... (Ven, Rosa and Yvette.) Yvette IS keeping up activity with her rivalship with Ben. She has put an effect on this site, (look at the house points, lol)

Now, Rosa and Vendela aren't making the situation interesting, but wait and see... I'll try to make a plot for at least one of them. I'll also try to advertise on some norwegian sites. There's lot of good english typers that are on a specific forum, they'd love this.
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I would gladly create a firsty, but for now I would really like to establish Ian's place somewhere in the RP. When Ian is more situated, I'll gladly make a whole troop munchkins. I'd even like to try my hand at making a female character. I've never had a female protagonist in any of the short-stories I've written--mostly because bad things tend to happen to my main characters and forgive me if I'm a softie when it comes to women: The Marquis de Sade writing Jensine I am not (If you've never read it, don't) so my dark comedy never reached across gender barriers. Not that bad things won't happen to my un-named girlie, but far less dark than what happens to the main character of the book I'm currently writing (he's essentially a returning Christ who is persecuted and killed again by a supposed "Christian" nation). So that would be me expanding my writing ability.

Sorry if I creeped anyone out.

But back to the topic at hand. I have to agree with Annie (so that's where our points went!) and I have a number of friends who might enjoy this site. I'll ask them to come on over. (My bro might like it here, too, if I can get him off Mybook or FaceSpace or whatever he's into right now).
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Hellius Surla
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Hellius, I know you posted it ages ago but I wanted to bring up your first year character. Seeing as I've held this in for a while I don't mind saying this now. You say you abandoned the character because there wasn't enough to do. You never tried, the extent of your posts went from fighting with Hellius, to fighting with James.


Uh, James? I never had (or fought against) a character named James.


John
 
When you returned, great I was glad to see you back. However, I've said it to other people, while you put in lots of effort with Hellius which I was great full for. You wanted to create a new character. More then welcome to accommodate you. We wanted a first year though, because 2nd years are fine. Then you asked your character to be moved up. We lifted Hellius because his account had been active. This was on the condition that you CONTINUED to Roleplay with Abaddon, why because we needed the first years. I would know, I was the one that suggested that condition with Tristan.


Abaddon was and still is a plot character. I used him relentlessly for a month to build up his character, and then I dropped him until the point of where I can use him in my plot.

John
 
The reason we have a lack of movement in first years is because the lack of active or even first years in general and ditching your character doesn't help the situation. It's funny, I was right about what would happen, and I'm not happy about it. Matter of fact I'm pissed off.


It's not all my fault that there aren't active 1st years. I, already being a psychopath in our year, don't really want to make a character that does generally the same thing that I do with my original character. However, I don't want to be the Anti-Hero character in a situation where nothing is occurring. Also, I don't want to create 17 different characters just to finish the drought like most people are doing. I was coming up with this idea mainly because there is nothing going on in the lower years, and just making countless characters to fill the gaps isn't going to do anything when barely anyone is contributing individual plots for that year. More events are happening in our year mainly because there are more people who WANT to do so. Everyone wants to join our year because that's where all the good stuff is.

John
 
Another thing, get over Mascacra, regardless of what happened IRL. If she isn't coming back so what? thats for her to decide. You going on about it isn't going to help. We didn't go on about you leaving so how about you give it a break.


Oh, I have completely let it go. But for the uninformed people, I am just addressing the issue with the anger I still have pent up.

John
 
Class sizes, already difficult because they have to accommodate all the houses of a year level but also the different time-zones already are stretched. How do you propose we deal with this if every single person is in the same class? imagine having to scroll three pages down to respond to a conversation because 10-15 other characters having been role-playing between posts? It would be irritating. The advantages of a smalled class means that we can afford the waits between posts. Say with me and Tristan, because we live in Australia, can post and have a reply by the Americans on this forum not long after. It makes life easier without having to scroll through five pages of posts which are completely useless to your character.


I hate having to repeat myself...

Gabe
 
Heavens knows we don't need Day 5, Period 2, for example, to last for 2 real life weeks. However, this can easily be overcome if you allow the "Day" system to work out. In other words, you will still have a two day schedule. What this means, is that it is up to the higher powers of the site to ASSIGN your character schedule type 1 or 2. Depending on which one you have, you go to certain classes one day, and certain classes another. It works like the college block system. An example is that Gabe would have potions, transfiguration and charms one day and he would have divination, care of magical creatures and muggle studies the alternating day. Yes, you will not have class with all your friends, BUT, the days will be shorter which then allows more free time at night to get a sense of what characters are like out of class as well. Semesters may go by quicker, thus we will all age and get to 7th year...


Different class schedules for everyone at every time. Student A would have ____ class at this time, and then student B would have it later. It would separate everyone and make classes smaller; yet everyone would be involved equally in the plots that are occurring.

John
 
The separate years is more convenient. Instead of focusing on destroying the year level system how about you start trying to even out your time between characters. What we don't need is one huge year level. What we need is a balance between the year levels, which isn't helped by an influx of characters all wanting to be in 2nd year.


Which is, again, because nothing is happening in the lower years. A bunch of characters suddenly appearing out of nowhere isn't going to help anything when no one is plotting and trying to do stuff that's interesting.

John
 
Most of the original and in general second years have role played in the first, whether through separate characters or through their own (yourself included) which is fantastic. However, there seem to be too many people wanting to jump into second year which means it is over crowded and unfair to those who are loyal to the R.P.

Wouldn't you agree?


Which is why there are other ways to reward people who are loyal to the rp. Such as major roles within the plot, or positions that may needed to be filled in the near future. (Prefect, Head Boy/Girl, etc etc.)

If and when we ever create futures outside the schools with our characters, then they can take the shopkeeper positions, or the high ranking positions within the Ministry of Magic.

Just being ahead of other people academically isn't much of a reward in my opinion.
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Uh, James? I never had (or fought against) a character named James.


Obviously a short memory, Abaddon versus James in the shrieking shack. I've read the thread. It was a fight, simple as that.

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Abaddon was and still is a plot character.


You said yourself that you no longer use him. A point that I agree with. Though completely dislike. You also miss the point that I'm making. We had enough people, we didn't need Hellius back, we needed numbers in first year. The idea was that if both the site and you got what you wanted then both parties would be happy. While Tristan has forgotten I haven't. You seem to take the site for granted. Come and go as you please. Drop characters without regards to balance and yet I'm the one undermining the site? Hmm, isn't that interesting.

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It's not all my fault that there aren't active 1st years.


I'm not saying it's all your fault, but just like Dave, if you drop your character, it doesn't help or make things easier. Just because you don't want to doesn't mean you don't have to. For once put up and shut up and just deal with it instead of whinning. For a person that dislikes emo's so much as you have claimed to do previously you bitch and moan like one.

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Different class schedules for everyone at every time. Student A would have ____ class at this time, and then student B would have it later. It would separate everyone and make classes smaller; yet everyone would be involved equally in the plots that are occurring.


This is illogical and unnecessarily time consuming, there is nothing wrong with the present schedule and the difference between years makes it easy to differ between classes. It's just a simpler system.

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Which is, again, because nothing is happening in the lower years. A bunch of characters suddenly appearing out of nowhere isn't going to help anything when no one is plotting and trying to do stuff that's interesting.


Well then do it yourself. Where the hell do you think your going to get by sitting around on your ass doing nothing. Hellius, you came up with a plot line, thats great. While you did that, other characters worked out, organized and played out minor plot lines, not much but it's better then sitting around in classes doing nothing. I've spoken to people, looked to create mini-plots that I could play out. I've spoken to V, Eli, Tristan, Ella, Addie, Dave and many, many others, organizing and plotting miniture plots so I have something else. We did it together. Thats what made it more interesting. You reckon Mac and Justine was just a random coincidence of constantly going to class? No, it was communication. The twin story line between me and James? Communication again. Do you see where this is going?

Nothing will happen if you don't do something about it.


Hellius, we understand that. There are difficulties, like the fact that we don't have that options yet. Think of the current second year as if there was no Hogwarts before then. Thats how we started. We are the first Hogwarts year. Great, eventually we will have prefects and head boys and girls, shop keepers, ministers and quidditch players. At the moment, there is no availability. This is being worked on. It's not ready, similarly as Hogwarts year levels don't simply skip. You progress through each level at a time. This is the current system in place.
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Would we not just end up with a similar problem with having two seperate 'groups' within the year as more active people are in the first group and not the other? Also, doing that then limits your RP opportunities with those in your year.

I don't think combining the years only to split them again will do anything but cause problems. Instead of having a piece of shit, you have a piece of shit that's been hurled at a wall and sculpted back into another piece of shit. At the end of the day you still have shit.

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I don't think combining the years only to split them again will do anything but cause problems. Instead of having a piece of shit, you have a piece of shit that's been hurled at a wall and sculpted back into another piece of shit. At the end of the day you still have shit.

Savvy?

Nicely put, Julian :lol: lol
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John
 
Obviously a short memory, Abaddon versus James in the shrieking shack. I've read the thread. It was a fight, simple as that.


Oh, him. Right. I thought you meant that I fought him WITH Hellius.

John
 
You said yourself that you no longer use him. A point that I agree with. Though completely dislike. You also miss the point that I'm making. We had enough people, we didn't need Hellius back, we needed numbers in first year. The idea was that if both the site and you got what you wanted then both parties would be happy. While Tristan has forgotten I haven't. You seem to take the site for granted. Come and go as you please. Drop characters without regards to balance and yet I'm the one undermining the site? Hmm, isn't that interesting.


Pardon me? Me taking the site for granted? Coming and going? So that explains my constant activity and the forums upon forums I have made to develop the plot and all that sorts. Great.

John
 
I'm not saying it's all your fault, but just like Dave, if you drop your character, it doesn't help or make things easier. Just because you don't want to doesn't mean you don't have to. For once put up and shut up and just deal with it instead of whinning. For a person that dislikes emo's so much as you have claimed to do previously you bitch and moan like one.


My God? You're still using stuff from my retard phase? Good job bringing up the part of my life that was generally all sarcasm and irony.

As for whining, I have no idea where you came up with that shit. I'm just trying to come up with solutions to problems that the site seems to be having. Activity in the younger years is one of them, and I just wanted to get out this idea since it could've killed two birds with one stone.

John
 

This is illogical and unnecessarily time consuming, there is nothing wrong with the present schedule and the difference between years makes it easy to differ between classes. It's just a simpler system.


...except the fact that we're stuck in classes 85% of each school day.

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Well then do it yourself. Where the hell do you think your going to get by sitting around on your ass doing nothing. Hellius, you came up with a plot line, thats great. While you did that, other characters worked out, organized and played out minor plot lines, not much but it's better then sitting around in classes doing nothing. I've spoken to people, looked to create mini-plots that I could play out. I've spoken to V, Eli, Tristan, Ella, Addie, Dave and many, many others, organizing and plotting miniture plots so I have something else. We did it together. Thats what made it more interesting. You reckon Mac and Justine was just a random coincidence of constantly going to class? No, it was communication. The twin story line between me and James? Communication again. Do you see where this is going?


Have you read my rps any time within the last... month? Here are a couple examples:

  • Romance with Alana


  • Attacking Julian


  • Brotherly friendship with Gabe (which will be abolished after this rp night)


  • A bunch of shit with Professor Tortal which is to add to the site plot/individual ones.


Didn't think so. While I haven't communicated with so many people as you have, that's mainly because I'm public enemy number 4 and not many people want to roleplay with me.

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Nothing will happen if you don't do something about it.


Which is why I made this thread: To help find a solution to the drought of first years.
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I still think there is a way to make everything a little better as far as movement of the RP but that's not for me to decide. However, if this has not been thought of or if it has I'd like to point out that those new to the RP that have a first year and then make an upperclassman should NOT be allowed to only roleplay as the upperclassman. If they stop roleplaying on the first year after getting the second character than something should be said. All in all, I'll vote how I see fit and thanks for your time.

Hellius, there is no way of determining if Gabe will bridge their friendship. There are a lot of things that will take place before you and I get there dude and depending on what the other members of the RP do will determine how their friendship works out.
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Seventh Year. Lori rocks! But srsly, Morgan is the best! I love Malynne! But not as much as I LOVE ANNA AND LORI. BUT MORGAN STILL PWNS THEM ALL, THE END. I love Meg she is so awesome and epic. Did I mention how silly Jess is?

In this thread: Irrelevance. Keep it on track guys.

Also, Gabe, take no mind to what Julian says; his OOC personality isn't actually like his character's, though he likes to make it out to be that way; he's just being his cynical self.

John, I'd just like to take this opportunity to tell you to go to hell. I'm sick and tired of your shit, honestly. Go ahead and threaten to leave, but this is the last draw. The last couple of months you've been inactive, and we've been doing fine. If it's not me you're going at, it's someone else. So fuck off or get out. Thank you.

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Sorry Dave, it was my fault that I took it that way and I can explain my mindset if you'd like. I'll edit my previous post and try to get things back on track. Thanks to you and Hellius for the update on Julian..had no idea he tried to stick to his character that much.
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Seventh Year. Lori rocks! But srsly, Morgan is the best! I love Malynne! But not as much as I LOVE ANNA AND LORI. BUT MORGAN STILL PWNS THEM ALL, THE END. I love Meg she is so awesome and epic. Did I mention how silly Jess is?

Oh no Gabe it wasn't you I was referring to; mainly to John being his regular cocksuckerish self. Pardon my language.

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Jan 4 2008, 11:30 AM
Hellius, there is no way of determining if Gabe will bridge their friendship.  There are a lot of things that will take place before you and I get there dude and depending on what the other members of the RP do will determine how their friendship works out.

I was speaking of what we were concocting inside of Castor's office earlier. If Hellius is to attack Gabe, then the relationship is to be killed off to some extent. Who knows if it will be repaired, but if not, then I will probably become maniacal and murderous again.

EDIT: Btw, you're welcome. It's not your fault for being uninformed. :)
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USING ME FOR SPLITING YOU! AREN'T YOU BOYS ASHAMED?
Wow, after yelling so much today I feel like Molly Weasley. Back to topic?
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If we see a man glorifying his race, gender, or creed, we can understand there is nothing about himself that deserves glorification.

When it comes down to it, John, people CONTRIBUTE ideas, yet you bitch and moan about them yourself. What I don't understand is why you must consistently flame people that are trying to help the fucking site. So what if someone isn't using a character? Some people actually like rping with one particular character because they actually put time and effort into developing their fucking personality.

Unlike you, with the "OLOL! I hav 8 difrent fuking charicters to rolepaly, and u only hav 2! Get a lif and be loyle to da site!" I actually take time to develop my characters. After creating one and then being told that the character wasn't needed, that just about made me laugh, yet I was angry all at the same time. Until Julian (and the rest of the developed characters) got here, I was the main contributer (along with Mascacra) to keeping the nonexistent plot, if not the whole site, alive. You and Tristan fixed it up after we were gone, but other than that, we roleplayed consistently just to get posts onto the board. 20 whole pages went by with rp between me and her, and that was that.

Yet... because you fixed it up with Tristan, you act like a general asshole now. Some people don't act as you see appropriate and then you flame them. I'm still surprised that some people are still here after the shit was was caused. I still don't understand why you're acting this way because... frankly, what have we done to you?

You're accusing me of bitching and moaning despite the fact that I'm simply trying to brainstorm and create ideas that would make the site better over all. Once I do give an idea, you bitch and complain about it. This included the site plot and it sure as fuck includes this.


Taking a fucking chill pill and sit back, dude. Otherwise, go ahead and go to Hell.
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Hellius Surla
Jan 4 2008, 05:12 PM
When it comes down to it, John, people CONTRIBUTE ideas, yet you bitch and moan about them yourself. What I don't understand is why you must consistently flame people that are trying to help the fucking site. So what if someone isn't using a character? Some people actually like rping with one particular character because they actually put time and effort into developing their fucking personality.

Unlike you, with the "OLOL! I hav 8 difrent fuking charicters to rolepaly, and u only hav 2! Get a lif and be loyle to da site!" I actually take time to develop my characters. After creating one and then being told that the character wasn't needed, that just about made me laugh, yet I was angry all at the same time. Until Julian (and the rest of the developed characters) got here, I was the main contributer (along with Mascacra) to keeping the nonexistent plot, if not the whole site, alive. You and Tristan fixed it up after we were gone, but other than that, we roleplayed consistently just to get posts onto the board. 20 whole pages went by with rp between me and her, and that was that.

Yet... because you fixed it up with Tristan, you act like a general asshole now. Some people don't act as you see appropriate and then you flame them. I'm still surprised that some people are still here after the shit was was caused. I still don't understand why you're acting this way because... frankly, what have we done to you?

You're accusing me of bitching and moaning despite the fact that I'm simply trying to brainstorm and create ideas that would make the site better over all. Once I do give an idea, you bitch and complain about it. This included the site plot and it sure as fuck includes this.


Taking a fucking chill pill and sit back, dude. Otherwise, go ahead and go to Hell.


Was it worth it, John?

Okay, back on topic, please; it's done.

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Having considered the ideas further I disagree with combining the years. However I see some merit in shrinking the days down so classes go by quicker. I find the classes entertaining and they have their uses (the recent Transfiguration incident for eg) but lengthy periods can be exceedingly tedious. Perhaps only 3 periods per day.

Also I suggest we review the current Professor lineup and consider removing some roles from certain people to the more active. Eg. Tortal and DeMoure are always on, and so they should have important teaching roles.
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