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Topic Started: Jul 21 2009, 04:12 AM (1,447 Views)
Sabre_Justice
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It seems you're even more naive about the American media than I am, everyone outside the US knows they pretty much all have a sensationalist bias (lol liberal media) and are generally useless besides. Fox News is just the most honest.

I can't think of a country where people take third parties remotely seriously though. The Australian Greens party is kinda influential though mostly through loopholes, and Family First gets a lot of press mainly because they're the equivalent of your Republicans (though they keep quiet about the religion, getting god involved is political suicide down under).

Our state governments, or at least mine, are entirely useless though.

I don't know how this derailed into politics, but eh.
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Sabre_Justice,Jul 30 2009
03:05 PM
It seems you're even more naive about the American media than I am, everyone outside the US knows they pretty much all have a sensationalist bias (lol liberal media) and are generally useless besides. Fox News is just the most honest.

I can't think of a country where people take third parties remotely seriously though. The Australian Greens party is kinda influential though mostly through loopholes, and Family First gets a lot of press mainly because they're the equivalent of your Republicans (though they keep quiet about the religion, getting god involved is political suicide down under).

Our state governments, or at least mine, are entirely useless though.

I don't know how this derailed into politics, but eh.

Fox News.
Honest.

Brb wetting self with laughter.
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HunteRS,Jul 30 2009
04:26 PM
Sabre_Justice,Jul 30 2009
03:05 PM
It seems you're even more naive about the American media than I am, everyone outside the US knows they pretty much all have a sensationalist bias (lol liberal media) and are generally useless besides. Fox News is just the most honest.

I can't think of a country where people take third parties remotely seriously though. The Australian Greens party is kinda influential though mostly through loopholes, and Family First gets a lot of press mainly because they're the equivalent of your Republicans (though they keep quiet about the religion, getting god involved is political suicide down under).

Our state governments, or at least mine, are entirely useless though.

I don't know how this derailed into politics, but eh.

Fox News.
Honest.

Brb wetting self with laughter.

Yeah, that isn't really the right word. How about 'blatant'?
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Ah yes, Fox news, the station where yelling and belittling people is seen as informative.

Then again, any of you who haven't ever heard of Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage, be thankful. They make Fox look sane.
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Sabre_Justice,Jul 30 2009
04:38 PM
Yeah, that isn't really the right word. How about 'blatant'?

I go with TVTropes: "Exactly What It Says On The Tin". Assload of Screaming
Jesus-Freaks -- and that's exactly what they provide.

"FOX" : Freaks On X-ianity.... >:)

(And I'm a conservative.)
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Sabre_Justice,Jul 30 2009
03:05 PM
It seems you're even more naive about the American media than I am, everyone outside the US knows they pretty much all have a sensationalist bias (lol liberal media) and are generally useless besides. Fox News is just the most honest.

I can't think of a country where people take third parties remotely seriously though. The Australian Greens party is kinda influential though mostly through loopholes, and Family First gets a lot of press mainly because they're the equivalent of your Republicans (though they keep quiet about the religion, getting god involved is political suicide down under).

Our state governments, or at least mine, are entirely useless though.

I don't know how this derailed into politics, but eh.

More a matter of playing a long shot. It didn't cost much, and it was worth a try.

You might notice, though, that there are two reasons most third parties aren't taken seriously:

1) They're chronically underfunded, so can't get their message out very well

2) Most of them are loaded with crackpots shilling everything from New Ageism to abolition of road signs, so when they DO get their message out, they might as well not have bothered in the first place.

Perot got about 20% of the national vote in '92, an historical record for a third-party presidential candidate, because he had the money to get his message out and, for the most part, it made a lot of sense. He was even ahead of the pack in a major poll at one point, and won two of the three presidential debates.

So, naturally, he was character-assassinated. With most of the press being card-carrying Democrats and the rest being hardcore Republicans, he had next to no one willing to defend him...and so, instead of the "eccentric lunatic", we elected Clinton, followed by Bush's kid. Who got elected mostly because half the country already hated Gore enough to vote for a potted plant, so long as it had "Republican" on its ballot mark.

As for the rest, yeah, Fox and Limbaugh are biased shills, and Savage is a nutter. Then we get to the liberal side of the aisle and find a lot more shills and nutters than you can shake the proverbial stick at. It's not "justified", it's just tit for tat.

And as George Carlin once asked, "Just what IS 'tat', where can I get it, and how do I change it in for the other thing?"
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Anyone who supports the Birthers has long crossed over from 'shill' to 'nutter'.
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For those wondering what the hell a birther is, i believe it to be those who do not believe Barack was born in the US or a dependant territory, since he won't release his birth certificate. Don't quote me on that. Google fu isn't always right.
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Calbeck,Aug 1 2009
11:25 PM
As for the rest, yeah, Fox and Limbaugh are biased shills, and Savage is a nutter. Then we get to the liberal side of the aisle and find a lot more shills and nutters than you can shake the proverbial stick at.

You know, I look at US politics right now, and the word "tank-slapper" comes to mind....

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=tank...title&resnum=4#

See how it usually ends up? :P
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Korvaz,Aug 2 2009
04:37 AM
For those wondering what the hell a birther is, i believe it to be those who do not believe Barack was born in the US or a dependant territory, since he won't release his birth certificate. Don't quote me on that. Google fu isn't always right.

His birth certificate is available from 10 seconds on Google, by the way.

These people make Truthers look rational.
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Nah, I've met both types in person. The Truthers have to rely on a whole lot more crap to justify their position. With the birth certificate nutters, it's at least just ONE thing they're delusional about.

Of course, Barack isn't the only major politico to have the opposition whip this nonsense out. Just like clockwork, the 'tit for tat' folks trotted out the same BS about John McCain...who's been having to deal with THOSE particular idiots almost since he took national office for the first time a few decades ago.

Truth be told, I think about the ONLY significant politico the "natural born citizen" thing would apply to would be Arnold Schwarzenegger. I honestly can't think of anyone else.
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Yes, but you didn't see major political figures on the Democrat side appealing to Truthers.

Mind you, most truthers are in the Ron Paul brigade anyway.
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Can we switch gears to the Kennedey assasination or something? Honestly, the Truthers just make me sick.
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FREEMASONS RUN THE COUNTRY
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Eastwood,Aug 2 2009
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FREEMASONS RUN THE COUNTRY

Muslim's,ASBO's,Speed camera's,speed camera's.....
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HunteRS,Aug 2 2009
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Eastwood,Aug 2 2009
01:47 PM
FREEMASONS RUN THE COUNTRY

Muslim's,ASBO's,Speed camera's,speed camera's.....

DON'T GO OUTSIDE! IT'S FULL OF QUEERS, BLACKS AND CRIME, OH IF ONLY DIANA WERE HERE!
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See, this is why I like Australia. All the pricks are too busy getting arrested on the beach or trying to stop the internet, everyone else is just fine getting drunk.
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Thank you.

Born in South Austrailia!
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HunteRS,Aug 2 2009
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Muslim's,ASBO's,Speed camera's,speed camera's.....

Grocer's Apostrophes.... >;)
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We don't consider our government competent enough to go 1984 on us.
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Sabre_Justice,Aug 2 2009
11:03 AM
Yes, but you didn't see major political figures on the Democrat side appealing to Truthers.

Mind you, most truthers are in the Ron Paul brigade anyway.

Ah, yeah, I DID. Want names?

And yeah, Sabre's right, we're not defending either side. It's just a comparison of degrees of stupid. Me, I'm largely of the opinion that Repubs and Dems are equally stupid in their own peculiar ways...half a dozen of this buncha crackpots, six of those conspiracy nuts.
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