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The Pirate Bay Sold
Topic Started: Jun 30 2009, 11:09 AM (189 Views)
Pixellated
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They're trying to turn it into a legitimate business: still P2P, but companies get paid for what gets downloaded from there. I'm guessing it's just a new content delivery system based on what people are already familiar with.
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Jeffk38uk
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Might explain why I saw an article of them starting a streaming video site as well.

Shame their search function is useless as hell. You search for gundam for example, it comes up with rinona ryder or something.
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Candescence
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They're pulling a Napster? Expect 99% of the users to leave within a week. Once again, big corporations fail epically to understand how the internet works.
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Mother ship down! Man the yawls!
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LET ME SEE YOUR RAGE FACE!
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By next year, it'll be a gay porn site.
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theinfestedheretic,Jun 30 2009
01:35 PM
LET ME SEE YOUR RAGE FACE!

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RAAAAGE
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Twib
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personally I think this is funny, and possibly the perfect way to kill the piratebay. no need for lawsuit, use the check book
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How... how could they...
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brb demonoid.
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Lothar Hex
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How can you buy an organization that is for the purposes of piracy and turn it into a legitimate business. I don't get it.
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Lothar Hex,Jun 30 2009
08:07 PM
How can you buy an organization that is for the purposes of piracy and turn it into a legitimate business. I don't get it.

For lack of a better model, the same reason the Navy might capture a pirate-ship, put their soldiers on it, and have it fight for them.

The buying company didn't have to build it themselves, it's already got a load of users, and it might still retain the reputation as 'a place where you can get things for cheaper than in the shops'.
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And even then, at the minimum they could always forward some ad revenue to companies.

See, this is what I don't understand. The infrastructure's there. Bung a few adverts (not adware, mind) and offer commercial stuff cheap/free.

TV shows are typically free (ignoring the over-bloated TV licence fee), paid for with adverts. Why not set up seed farms and offer torrents of your TV shows, packaged with adverts?
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Candescence,Jun 30 2009
12:53 PM
Once again, big corporations fail epically to understand how the internet works.

You mean that it's populated entirely by thieves who never pay for any media?

Look, I pirate here and there, but I'm under no delusions as to my rights in this area. A lot of torrent users seem to think that they should be given everything for free, that they have some kind of unalienable right to that media. They, that is, we, have no such right. If overnight they were to somehow close up all the loopholes that allow me to get media for free, forcing me to pay for it all, yeah, I'd be annoyed, and I'd likely consume less media, but I would know that I have no place complaining, because I had no right to the free media in the first place. It's a fair cop.

Besides, how has anybody failed to understand anything yet? There's no details as to what form the business model will take, so you're jumping the gun and assuming that whatever form it takes, it won't work. The fact is, in the Internet age, all our old models need to be re-examined. Users breach copyright because they can, and no amount of crying on the part of publishing businesses will change that. They're constanly trying to stamp out free sharing and force the world to go back to the days when they had full control over the distribution of content. But that's an impossible task, and undesireable anyway. The Internet is here and the corporations can't change that. They need to change. Change and adapt and figure out a way we can all win.

So. Is there a business model where we all win? This idea popped into my head while I was at work: what if, every time you download a torrent link, you get a prompt for a voluntary PayPal donation. You choose the amount, based on whatever you think the content is worth, how generous you're feeling today, whether you just got paid or not, whatever. Or, choose not to donate at all. I for one, am always reluctant to shell out 50, 80, 100 quid for a boxset of DVDs. But if I could download it for say, £20? Done. I wouldn't mind that, that's small change for the hours of entertainment you could get from a full series of a TV show. If such a system existed, I bet a lot of users would toss a couple of quid out. Many would not, I'm aware of that. But if a million people download a torrent, and only ten percent of them donate a dollar, that's a hundred thousand dollars. $100,000 of pure profit; no manufacturing costs, no transport costs, no server hosting costs, no costs at all to the copyright owner, and that's from people who would otherwise not have paid a penny.

It'll likely not happen any time soon; the big corporations are too entrenched. They would never agree to such a thing, because any such agreement would be all over the news, and people who normally pay full price for DVDs and games would suddenly become aware of this system where they can, legally, get their media much cheaper. And the traditional models would crumble. But maybe that's what we need. Traditional models merely bog progress down. It's an untraditional age.

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Dare to dream Virus, dare to dream.

I know that my media consumption would skyrocket if I could download for a fraction of the price of a DVD. Right now the media corporations aren't getting any money from me because I can't afford what I want to watch on DVD and don't use torrent download because I don't want to expose myself to the chance of being sued, no matter how remote it is. If they used a system like you're proposing, I'd be one of the biggest customers.
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