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NFL London; For the Brits on the forum
Topic Started: Oct 27 2007, 04:43 AM (912 Views)
RedFox742
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Lothar Hex,Oct 20 2009
08:14 AM
Simply put, your team simply isn't that good at the game.

Honduras, Costa Rica, El Salvador, and T&T are places where they actually care about the game.

Making the Cup falls somewhere below having a good collection of wicker chairs on the priority list of most Americans, including myself. But it was definitely hilarious to watch my Costa Rican friend freak out and start destroying furniture after our fifth-stoppage-minute header sealed a comeback from 0-2. So anything the US does is really just icing (and means I have a way to kill a couple hours over the summer watching people not score for very long periods of time--love playing soccer; watching it is a lot harder.)

So, yeah, I'm well aware we're not great. I just don't particularly care, and I'll take what we can get.
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Lothar Hex,Oct 20 2009
08:14 AM
Red, the group that you're in consisted of Mexico, Honduras, Costa Rica, El Salvador, and Trinidad and Tobago.

These days, most of the people in the US who play soccer are *from* those places
originally (or at a very short remove).

I'm still waiting for "NASCAR Europe" -- have to wait for the EU to "review" whether
or not the FIA constitutes an illegal monopoly....
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csadn,Oct 21 2009
06:17 AM
"NASCAR Europe"

No fucking chance.
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HAH.

And then maybe we'll see the United States Cricket Federation.
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RedFox742,Oct 21 2009
06:57 AM
HAH.

And then maybe we'll see the United States Cricket Federation.

At least cricket is a sport.
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A very dull and boring sport that I'll never understand why it got so popular.
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Lothar Hex,Oct 20 2009
02:14 AM
RedFox742,Oct 19 2009
09:44 PM
Tell that to Costa Rica on the free trip we gave them to Uruguay. :D

Red, the group that you're in consisted of Mexico, Honduras, Costa Rica, El Salvador, and Trinidad and Tobago. Out of all of those Mexico is probably the best, and the USA lost to them.

The second the US goes up against against a half way decent team, like say, Romania, like when you hosted the game in 1994, they'll lose. Or Like in 1998 where they lost all their Group F matches to Germany, Yugoslavia, and Iran. Or in 2002 Where they managed to get through the qualifying stages (Won against Portugala, drew Korea, lost to Poland), and got to the Quarter finals after beating Mexico, they faced Germany and got their arses handed to them. In 2006, they did surprise people by drawing against Italy, but lost all their other matches, against Czech Republic and Ghana.

I will be fair though and say while the various England squads haven't won the cup since 1966, we at least manage to get to the quarter finals most times before having our national hopes dashed against the rocks of playing better teams. We also occasionally beat Germany...in friendlies.

Simply put, your team simply isn't that good at the game.

Canada is worse: we can't get past the preliminaries in any sport except those that are played in the winter.

That is why we're going to get all of the bronze in the 2010 Winter Olymics. We'll be lucky if we actually get one each of silver and gold. Our athletes suck due to lack of training and funding to do the training...

That makes me a sad panda...

What about curling? I like to play that sport... I'm good at it...
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Eastwood,Oct 21 2009
06:58 AM
RedFox742,Oct 21 2009
06:57 AM
HAH.

And then maybe we'll see the United States Cricket Federation.

At least cricket is a sport.

Oh, I'm with you 100%.

My friend put it best: NASCAR was invented so rednecks could get as drunk as they wanted and still understand what was going on.
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Frankly, I find both kinds of football to be meh. I'm more of a baseball man.
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Dakatsu,Oct 21 2009
07:22 PM
Frankly, I find both kinds of football to be meh. I'm more of a baseball man.

A fine old British sport.
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Eastwood,Oct 21 2009
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Dakatsu,Oct 21 2009
07:22 PM
Frankly, I find both kinds of football to be meh.  I'm more of a baseball man.

A fine old British sport.

Founded in England, mid-eighteenth century. Almost everything in America was never truly American.
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Apart from Rickshaws.
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Yeah, I haven't seen many of those around here...
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csadn,Oct 21 2009
06:17 AM
Lothar Hex,Oct 20 2009
08:14 AM
Red, the group that you're in consisted of  Mexico, Honduras, Costa Rica, El Salvador, and Trinidad and Tobago.

These days, most of the people in the US who play soccer are *from* those places
originally (or at a very short remove).

I'm still waiting for "NASCAR Europe" -- have to wait for the EU to "review" whether
or not the FIA constitutes an illegal monopoly....

Isn't that basically called TOCA?

We have V8 Supercars in Australia, it's the same thing.
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Lothar Hex,Oct 21 2009
03:39 AM
A very dull and boring sport that I'll never understand why it got so popular.

If NASCAR with it's crowning event of the 'Daytona 1,000 Left Turn Spectacular' can become popular, ANYTHING can become popular.

SOMETHING has to keep ESPN 8 (The Ocho!) on the air...
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Sabre_Justice,Oct 22 2009
02:07 AM
Isn't that basically called TOCA?
We have V8 Supercars in Australia, it's the same thing.

Nope -- TOCA's tech base is more "Bleeding-edge"; NASCAR still uses carburetors,
for fuck's sake (makes life easier for the tech inspectors; anything with a computer
in it is easily cheated-up). Aussie V8 Supercars -- same deal. Also, TOCA and AV8S
are road-course only; NASCAR is still predominantly ovals (a road-course car and a
large oval car need entirely different handling and aerodynamic setups).

(That said: I do approve of how Marcos Ambrose has been faring -- it isn't that I hate
non-American drivers because they're non-American, it's that I hate them because
they're predominantly boring, arrogant douchenozzles.)

However, there's a quarter-mile (sorry, 0.4-km :) ) oval someone built in Belgium
which runs US Late Models (like these: http://www.asanorthwesttour.com/ ), and I
think a couple of small-scale series for these have sprouted up in Europe.
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So, as expected, a slaughter. Pats 35, Bucs 7. Highlights here, if it's not region-locked: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlig...35-Buccaneers-7

Check out how freakin' packed Wembley is, and it can seat a good 20,000 more than your average American football stadium. Thanks for the good turnout, UK, sorry for the iffy game.

Oh, and the turf didn't crumble this time. Yay!

A lot of people think, with this level of interest, the UK will have its own NFL team within the next decade. I hope so.
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I've actually got a few cousins who play American football.

There might even be grounds for an international league... though it'd probably be more even ground to have a UK, Australia and otherwise team join the existing American set of teams. Would be expensive to fly overseas all the time but eh, the sport's like that.
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RedFox742,Oct 25 2009
11:45 PM
A lot of people think, with this level of interest, the UK will have its own NFL team within the next decade. I hope so.

At the very least, they're looking at ramping up the number of games here.

Makes me wish they'd fix up the old Saffron Lane stadium (Where they used to host Britbowl, just down the road form me). That way there'd be some possibility of catching a game without having to go anywhere near London.
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Lothar Hex,Oct 21 2009
09:39 AM
A very dull and boring sport that I'll never understand why it got so popular.

Test cricket, I agree. Watch a game of Twenty20 sometime if you're up for something more interesting.
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Sabre_Justice,Oct 26 2009
07:56 AM
I've actually got a few cousins who play American football.

In the UK, or the US? I'm maddeningly curious as to the state of the sport in the UK, and I wish there'd be more exchange. I saw a group of Indian gents on campus playing cricket a while back, but in general, you couldn't find wickets here anywhere except maybe e-Bay.

Also, our flag football team won this week, yay. I just wanted to say that. :P (I'm second on the roster there.)
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RedFox742,Oct 26 2009
07:52 PM
I'm MADDENingly curious

Mmmm-hmmmm.

Most popular sport in the UK is technically fishing, but it's really football. Multi-billion dollar trade with far, far overpaid + overpriced players, but if the football industry collapsed, or Premier League players were forced a regular worker's salary, a major part of our economy would be lost.

Not many people in comparison would be that sad if we never played cricket any more.
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Pixellated,Oct 26 2009
06:59 PM
RedFox742,Oct 26 2009
07:52 PM
I'm MADDENingly curious

Mmmm-hmmmm.


... Oh my God, I swear that was completely accidental. ROFL.

Also, I meant the comparison because soccer is at least played here. Every high school and nearly every college has boys and girls' teams; you can buy a soccer ball in any sports store, and you'll see goals all over the place. Probably more goals than gridiron goalposts, actually, but that's just because soccer is easier to play pick-up. In terms of sports you watch or care about, it's all gridiron football here.

Cricket, on the other hand, is utterly non-existent in any form.
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Soccer's played over there because it's both an Olympic sport, and has its own World Cup. It's also generally playable by people growing up: all you need is more than one person and a ball to play soccer: a few kids on the street can't play American (the title gives it away that it's only really played in America, and in Japan where they nabbed baseball and basketball as major sports too) Football by themselves.

In that same vein, we don't have American Football here for the same reason you don't have cricket there. Cultural heritage and ease of use as a past-time.
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Never played touch american football? I used to play that when really young with just 4 people... we modify the rules of course. Can't go after the quarter back for 15 seconds since no one is free to block for him....


of course 6 and more is recommended
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