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Well, that's remarkably honest.
Topic Started: Sep 30 2007, 10:27 PM (604 Views)
The Virus
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Not encouraging, but honest.

Cue Vista bashing from people who've never used it or used it once for five minutes, but who heard on the internets that it was bad.
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The Virus,Sep 30 2007
04:27 PM
Not encouraging, but honest.

Cue Vista bashing from people who've never used it or used it once for five minutes, but who heard on the internets that it was bad.

I've had similar problems...
In XP, I've gotten task manager not responding... and then task manager asking me if it wants to close itself or not.
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kalvaza
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My brothers have Vista on their laptops. One of them got a weird error on start-up and came crying to me with it.

I'm not an absolute master with laptops and computers but I've always managed to work my way around these types of errors. On XP anyway. I was stumped with this error. I forget exactly what it was complaining about but what felt like hours later I gave up and decided that I'd stick with XP until I'm forced to upgrade, kicking and screaming.

That said, I've got a feeling he went on some shitty porn site and got a nasty virus. Certainly would sound like him.
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I spent ten minutes with Vista Word trying to figure out how the hell to print.

"Oh, click the big shiny unlabeled BUTTON! Of COURSE! It's not like that's been under the 'File' menu for AS LONG AS WINDOWS HAS BEEN AROUND!?"
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RedFox742,Oct 1 2007
02:31 AM
I spent ten minutes with Vista Word trying to figure out how the hell to print.

"Oh, click the big shiny unlabeled BUTTON! Of COURSE! It's not like that's been under the 'File' menu for AS LONG AS WINDOWS HAS BEEN AROUND!?"

I assumed Vista Word was the same as the current Word 2007 for XP. In which case, a giant button of the Word logo which reveals the main menu including print was fairly obvious.

If not, ignore that entire paragraph from your mind. XD
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Cue taken.

OMFG VEEEEEEEESTAH IS TEH SUXXORZ, ROFLOLMAO!!!1

I'd say more, but I've never actually used it.
Not because people said horrible things about it, but because I like my Windows Shitface, and I'm too lazy and/or cheap to buy and/or install the damned thing.
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The Virus,Sep 30 2007
10:27 PM
Cue Vista bashing from people who've never used it or used it once for five minutes, but who heard on the internets that it was bad.


No, I just read the reviews, put it up against what I wanted, and realised XP seems to shit over it in every way unless Spore won't run on XP. That's possibly the only reason I'd ever consider touching Vista. Beyond that, it's a sack of digitised crap.

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Last night my very badass aunt (of sorts) was telling me about how she used to work with computers the size of a small house.

They didn't break down much.
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Yeah, it's hip to bash Vista these days. About the only person I heard who had a valid argument against the system was a programmer who had a couple of issues with certain programs and glitches. Otherwise, it's all the same Vista bashing crap over and over again.
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I've never used Vista, but I do feel a bit nervous about the day I finally have to break down and use it, since all I've heard about it so far suggest that it's a continuation along the same line that brought us the default Windows XP "The 'Program files' folder has been hidden from you, the administrator, because you're so stupid you'll destroy your computer if we let you see what's here," attitude.
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Agreed with what many others have said: Vista's baaaaaad.

Also, those who got it for the 'WOW, FLIP 3D LOL' effect, go get TopDesk, or use Linux with Beryl. Or Mac OS X with Expose. Then cry at how bad Flip3D is.
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All I remember from Windows bashing is:

When Windows 2000 was released, '95 was finally bug-free.
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Captain Wonderful,Oct 1 2007
11:48 AM
I've never used Vista, but I do feel a bit nervous about the day I finally have to break down and use it, since all I've heard about it so far suggest that it's a continuation along the same line that brought us the default Windows XP "The 'Program files' folder has been hidden from you, the administrator, because you're so stupid you'll destroy your computer if we let you see what's here," attitude.

Yeah, pretty much. 'User Account Control' is Vista's attempt at minimising PEBKAC errors. I'm sure IT technicians appreciate it. But you can turn it all off. The options are somewhat hidden away, so that the newbie users who do need protecting from themselves can't easily disable it, but if you know your way around (or can use Google) you can turn the babysitting off.

Honestly, I understand the need for the dumbing-down path Microsoft takes. They want to make it user-friendly and seamless for the barely-computer-literate, mildly technophobic, casual PC user, because that's where the big market is. So Vista babysits by default. Experienced users can figure out how to disable it. No use complaining about an optional feature. It needs to be on by default because newbs aren't going to choose to turn a "I am stupid, please protect me from myself" feature on.

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I spent ten minutes with Vista Word trying to figure out how the hell to print.

"Oh, click the big shiny unlabeled BUTTON! Of COURSE! It's not like that's been under the 'File' menu for AS LONG AS WINDOWS HAS BEEN AROUND!?"

Don't have Word. Didn't come with the system, and wasn't paying the extortionate asking price. Yay open source software.

So, as an experienced, but not overly techy user, having actually used Vista for a while? It's fine. It works. Has some nice bells and whistles. I get occasional errors, as I did under XP, as I have under every version of Windows. Is it worth shelling out for the upgrade? Probably not. If you're getting a new computer, is it neccessary to make a fuss about downgrading to XP because Vista is awful? Probably not.
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I hear if you're really keen you can select an option to make the Vista interface look and work like XP. I may be comfortable with XP but if I had Vista I wouldn't be buggering about with the past.

Having used Vista for a few minutes at a time, it seems new and scary but I suppose if I got used to it I'd enjoy the fancy new features. Would never pay to upgrade, but it's inevitable that I'll buy a new computer or laptop with it installed at some point.
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I got Vista with my new laptop. It works fine. The only thing that bothered me about it was the cancel or allow message.
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I think the main problem I have with Vista is the style and Aero that seems to take up a fair bit of memory on other people's PCs I've used. I'm a general power-user in XP, I'll be changing every aspect to make it run faster while still keeping a nice unique look (Classic Theme, but with Tahoma size 7 instead of 8 everywhere: try it).

I just don't like the idea that most developers say 'Well, people's computers are getting faster all the time, so we can make them more memory-heavy', so they try to make everything look insanely pretty at the cost of that: for instance, I had a friend whose theme and background processes (such as Theme Styler, all the stuff at WinCustomize) totalled his apps: I just couldn't be doing with it personally. If you are a person who won't have that many things running at the same time, then go for it if you actually like Aero (which I even don't, not even the look of it).

Also: A CLOCK WIDGET GADGET?! Why? There's one RIGHT THERE ALREADY!
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I'll only upgrade when I get a new computer. This one will probably keep me and my dad going for quite a while. I think Vista is probably getting closer to the point where it won't be much worse than XP at all, but there's just no need right now.

Microsoft should just get with it and not try and rush people to upgrade, letting people do it in their own time.
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I like my Vista. I've been using it since Febuary of this year. Had some issues with initial setup, (Are you sure you want to do this? Sure? Sure you're sure? Sure you're not sure? Oops. Clicked the wrong button. Try again.), but once I had it set up my way, it'sa not so bad.

Need moar memory however. <<
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Gyser,Oct 3 2007
12:48 AM
Need moar memory however. <<

*Original point back'd up!* =P
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Pixellated,Oct 2 2007
07:07 AM
I just don't like the idea that most developers say 'Well, people's computers are getting faster all the time, so we can make them more memory-heavy', so they try to make everything look insanely pretty ...

Same here.
What probably bothers me most is the boot time for Windows that never decreases. That's one of the reasons why I still keep my C64/128. Ready to work with in about four seconds.

Anyway I think Vista is quite fine for computer-newbies. But I don't think I will ever use Vista because, among other things, I'm too used to the "old" Windows (started with 3.1x back in the 90s). Currently I'm running XP, but in a Win2000-style.
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Bavarian,Oct 3 2007
12:18 PM
Pixellated,Oct 2 2007
07:07 AM
I just don't like the idea that most developers say 'Well, people's computers are getting faster all the time, so we can make them more memory-heavy', so they try to make everything look insanely pretty  ...

Same here.
What probably bothers me most is the boot time for Windows that never decreases. That's one of the reasons why I still keep my C64/128. Ready to work with in about four seconds.

Anyway I think Vista is quite fine for computer-newbies. But I don't think I will ever use Vista because, among other things, I'm too used to the "old" Windows (started with 3.1x back in the 90s). Currently I'm running XP, but in a Win2000-style.

Also, nothing's ever really going to be Vista-exclusive apart from games. Too many people are going to stick with XP for the developers to consider making Vista-only apps.
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I dunno about boot time, my XP seems to get started pretty quickly compared to the other computers I've had. Though that might be a hardware thing.
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Sabre_Justice,Oct 1 2007
09:01 AM
Last night my very badass aunt (of sorts) was telling me about how she used to work with computers the size of a small house.

They didn't break down much.

Them were the days. Where you had people going round flicking switches

Also as for Vista. I feel it's for. Well. Someone who lacks experience with computers.I know XP's no super duper thing. But it's got the job done. To the point where it's forced Microsoft to continue sales for another year
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Sabre_Justice,Oct 4 2007
12:15 AM
I dunno about boot time, my XP seems to get started pretty quickly compared to the other computers I've had. Though that might be a hardware thing.

My XP was also relatively fast (about 50 sec.) before I installed my various programs (now about 1 1/2 min.) - unfortunately shutting down takes about the same amount of time. Is that normal for XP?
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Bavarian,Oct 4 2007
07:19 PM
Sabre_Justice,Oct 4 2007
12:15 AM
I dunno about boot time, my XP seems to get started pretty quickly compared to the other computers I've had. Though that might be a hardware thing.

My XP was also relatively fast (about 50 sec.) before I installed my various programs (now about 1 1/2 min.) - unfortunately shutting down takes about the same amount of time. Is that normal for XP?

Why do you care about shutting down if you can just click it and leave? I'd gladly sacrifice bootup time for shutdown time.
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