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Velociraptors had -feathers?-
Topic Started: Sep 24 2007, 10:18 AM (307 Views)
DarkOverord
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7004727.stm

Kid you not, they've found proof they had feathers, thus meaning they no-longer were scaly beasts shown in Jurassic Park but some thing that looks like a malformed chicken
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I'm not sure if they had -that- many feathers, but still. Pretty badass, considering birds can be pretty nasty...

And either way, they can still tear you to bits. Also, T-rex was a scavenger when the opportunity arose, but still quite capable of being a savage killing machine.
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Well it's not surprising as more details are uncovered and such. For example, the Tyrannosaurus Rex wasn't technically the most viscous dinosaur that we're all led to believe. Theres an even larger one that came out in the next age. The name alludes me though.
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Jeffk38uk,Sep 24 2007
01:10 PM
Well it's not surprising as more details are uncovered and such. For example, the Tyrannosaurus Rex wasn't technically the most viscous dinosaur that we're all led to believe. Theres an even larger one that came out in the next age. The name alludes me though.

My little brother, who is obsessed about dinosaurs says that it's Argentinosaurus. I'm inclined to believe him considering he owns about every single dinosaur book in existance.

As for dinosaurs being malformed chickens I'm not honestly that surprised. My Dad's been telling me that birds were vague descendants of dinosaurs for years. So Velociraptors having feathers isn't new news to me.
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Well I know about the link between birds and dino's. But I always thought they were scary. Granted, I still don't want to meet one by some freak time travel
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Old news is old.

Report is new.

Information is old.

Also: The Raptors in Jurassic Park were never Raptors. They were Deinonychus or something. And there's a quote (in the book, I believe) stating the characters who clones the dinosaurs cloned them to look bigger and shinier.
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Feldoon,Sep 24 2007
04:45 PM
Old news is old.

Report is new.

Information is old.

Also: The Raptors in Jurassic Park were never Raptors. They were Deinonychus or something. And there's a quote (in the book, I believe) stating the characters who clones the dinosaurs cloned them to look bigger and shinier.

Still an awesome movie either way. Lost World was a dissapointment but 3 was a notable improvement.
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Feldoon,Sep 24 2007
08:45 AM

Also: The Raptors in Jurassic Park were never Raptors. They were Deinonychus or something. And there's a quote (in the book, I believe) stating the characters who clones the dinosaurs cloned them to look bigger and shinier.

Deinonych stood in for them in Lost World, Utahraptor in the original, as I recall.

Anyway, it's certainly an interesting idea. Always fun to see our preconceptions of things get turned on their heads, huh?
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I believe it was a case of "Yep, we'll make 'em large Velociraptor [species name]" and then, during filming; "Whaddya mean Velociraptor [species name] is now agreed as Deinonychus [species name]? YOU SUCK!"

Then Utahraptor was discovered and they said "Hey, let's pretend we had scaled down Utahraptors. Yeah. That'll work. Fwahahaha. Poor saps'll never suspect a thing".

Still, man-sized scally Raptors still scare me.
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What about a pack of three-foot feathery raptors that can chase you down and tear you to shreds?
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The 'raptors' in JP3 had feathery crests on their heads. Between the second and third movies, evidence was coming to light that relatives of velociraptor may have been feathered, so the new paleontological evidence was partially factored into the design. That means yes, old news is very old, like before JP3 (2001) old. Though I think what they're reporting now is actual fossil evidence in the velociraptor mongoliensis species, whereas before there was only evidence in close relatives. So it's a bit pointless reporting it under this headline, as the JP raptors are, as discussed, most assuredly not V. mongoliensis.

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Deinonych stood in for them in Lost World, Utahraptor in the original, as I recall.

Other way round; Utahraptor hadn't been discovered at the time of the original. Besides, Utahraptor was way bigger than the film raptors: like 20 feet long. Deinonychus is the closest match to the screen dinos. He was feathered too, though.

Jeffk38uk,Sep 24 2007
12:10 PM
For example, the Tyrannosaurus Rex wasn't technically the most viscous dinosaur that we're all led to believe.

Eew, stickysaurus ;p
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I think I remember the emu being the closest living relative of the velociraptor. Finding evidence that they may have been feathered might just prove that the remainder of the species did evolve into birds.
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Now if we can just find some fossilised photographs of the raptors wearing T-shirts with their names on, we'll be set.
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I've heard African Grey Parrots are pretty close to raptors.

"Braawk, Ah my legs!"

"Braawk, oh god no what the hell are these things?"

"Braawk, clever girl aaaaaaghhh!"
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Surron,Sep 25 2007
06:32 AM
I think I remember the emu being the closest living relative of the velociraptor. Finding evidence that they may have been feathered might just prove that the remainder of the species did evolve into birds.

The dinosaurs-to-birds theory is no longer as contentious as it was when first proposed. It's now widely accepted that birds did indeed evolve from theropod dinosaurs. Many biologists actually call living birds "avian dinosaurs" as opposed to the extinct "non-avian dinosaurs". In the phylogenetic sense, birds are dinosaurs. And have been called so even before the feathered fosils were discovered; the feathers merely strengthen the case.
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