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| Major Maxillary | Dec 22 2005, 03:54 AM Post #1 |
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Anarcho-Fascist
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Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity With New 'Intelligent Falling' Theory This is just getting rediculous. |
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| demishock | Dec 22 2005, 04:28 AM Post #2 |
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Natural Selection
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Oh... wow. Just freaking wow. WTF with a capital WTF. It's GRAVITY! Get OVER it! And now I'm going to fall over -- but I'm gonna do it INTELLIGENTLY, just you watch... *headdesk* |
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| Master Shake | Dec 22 2005, 07:10 AM Post #3 |
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Scootaloo! We have to cook!
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........ Okay, anyone taking this even remotely seriously is stupid. Rampantly stupid. Almost fatally stupid. Did you not notice what page this was on? Here's several hints. Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image I really hope I don't have to explain why this article shouldn't be taken seriously. |
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| Captain Wonderful | Dec 22 2005, 02:43 PM Post #4 |
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Enjoy piracy responsibly
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i love their logic "hey guys, i found another gap in scientific understanding!" "hot damn, let's just assume god did it and call it science!" [edit] whoops, forgot what the onion was for a moment there *plays choking game* |
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| Lothar Hex | Dec 22 2005, 07:22 PM Post #5 |
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Illogical
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IT'S ON A FUCKING PARODY/HUMOUR SITE YOU MORONS! |
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| Jet | Dec 23 2005, 03:40 PM Post #6 |
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Evil sod w/ tits
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What's more fun than a gag topic? People believing in them. I've had a good smirk today. |
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| Feldoon | Dec 23 2005, 05:47 PM Post #7 |
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DYEL
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*giggles* Thanks for pointing out this site. May have to look here later. |
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| X Punk | Dec 24 2005, 08:27 PM Post #8 |
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Dead. Why shouldn't I be?
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I'm going to put a complaint as to why these people are still alive and why we should care. [Edit] : The ones who took this seriously, of course. |
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| demishock | Dec 24 2005, 10:16 PM Post #9 |
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Natural Selection
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In my own defense, this is the first I've ever heard of the Onion, so... sorry. Jeez. |
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| Axelgear | Dec 26 2005, 03:56 PM Post #10 |
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Tech Priest with a Gear loose
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Well, that was unusual... But it makes a good point. I mean, what's the difference between science and religion? What sets the two apart? Science is something you can't see, it's purely your faith in what scientists say that makes you believe it is true. So why not teach intelligent design alongside evolution? That's what this article is making fun of and it raises a good issue. |
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| Captain Wonderful | Dec 27 2005, 01:29 AM Post #11 |
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Enjoy piracy responsibly
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the difference is that good science relies on some form of proof, and you learn stuff that means you don't have to take what scientists say for granted by doing experiments in school. |
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| Conker the Great | Dec 27 2005, 01:52 AM Post #12 |
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This is how I roll.
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That is exactly what the article is not saying. |
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| Axelgear | Dec 27 2005, 03:05 AM Post #13 |
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Actually, science doesn't rely on proof. I mean, it does, but not in the way you think. I mean, you accept DNA as fact, but you've never seen it. You've never held it as far as you can see. You don't know it exists, but you accept it as fact because a scientist said so. People do the same thing for God and religion. It's called faith. Science is simply religion with the pursuit of knowledge as its God. Once something is shown to be a "fact" by science, you automatically accept it as fact without question or debate until someone high in the science community says otherwise or you work it out for yourself. Likewise, if you look at religion, people who follow religious leaders wait for higher ups to signal to them, while others work it out for themself. So, to recap, Science is a religion with Knowledge as its God. Today, it seems the entire world praises the Omnissiah. |
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| Legion | Dec 27 2005, 06:18 PM Post #14 |
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Mongrel Student
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The thing is, if I so wanted I could get an electron microscope, a cell sample and so forth, and actually see DNA for myself. Wheras with God.... well, omnipresent deities don't fit so well onto microscope slides, I'm told. I believe that all material is made up of atoms, because science says so. The difference between science and religion is that if I need further proof for science, I can actually see these things. I can see their proof. Religion exists on the assumption that gods and deities like acting like small children and hide behind stuff so we can't see them. Or something. I dunno. |
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| Snyood | Dec 28 2005, 12:18 AM Post #15 |
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Man's Laughter
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I have never heard of the Onion either... but it's pretty obvious, that if you've never heard of it, and it's "America's Finest news Source" then there's a problem. This does remind me of something... ... OMG ITS ON THE INTARWEB IT MUST BE TRUE |
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| Axelgear | Dec 28 2005, 01:22 AM Post #16 |
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Well, the thing is, have you ever seen an Electron Microscope yourself? Ever used one yourself? Once again, it is merely upon faith that you believe these things exist and work. As far as you know, you live in the Matrix. Faith and Science are very similar in the fact that you question neither of them because the actual proof of them is beyond your reach. You all praise the Omnissiah in this respect. Not worship as much as blind faith in its words. You all accept what scientists say for granted and immediatly believe it to be true. You don't question it. You simply accept it as fact as long as they add some sort of reason and pretty pictures. (The Omnissiah is an entity that represents the sum knowledge of all science and technology) Posted Image Yeah, I'm a Tech-Priest, so sue me. |
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| Snyood | Dec 28 2005, 02:10 AM Post #17 |
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Man's Laughter
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What in the hell are you talking about? It seems that you think science is all the little tiny bits and pieces of matter, atoms and such, that you can only "see" with high-tech scientific sciency stuff... Science and religion may be similar in a few ways, but are alot different in so many others. Sure, both rely on faith, but it's a different kind of faith. Faith is the entire embodyment of religion. Without Faith, there would be nothing. But Science on the other hand, faith is a hope that someday we'll be able to probe farther and discover more about the way things work, are, etc. Without Faith, there would still be science. Trees would still grow, atoms would still be really fuckin' tiny, and so on. Going on what was mentioned earlier, there's another things Science has over religion. Science is there... you can go out and touch science. Mix a nice cool beverage on a hot day, and watch the ice melt... SCIENCE. Go hump a tree. SCIENCE. (Or close enough...) Can you hump anything religious? And no, the bible(Koran, or anything holy to a certain religion) doesn't count... the bible(again, Koran, etc.) doesn't prove anything... Hard to trust a book that's been edited, revised, and updated hundreds of times over the past thousand or so years. And about the thing with pictures... doesn't religion have pictures too? Only, you can actually go and see the stuff scientific pictures show you. "OMG LOOK MARY IS PREGNANT AND VIRGIN AT THE SAME TIME. We say it's real, so believe! Sure it happened along time ago, and this is a drawn picture... but hey. We're religion! *faith ray*" as opposed to "OMG LOOK THIS GERM CELL IS REPRODUCING BY SPLITTING IN HALF! Unbelievable you say? Have a look in the here microscope! And about that really old drawn picture of that screw helicoptery thingy... it don't work. We tried it! Here, take this video, pictures, witness reports, documentaries, and the ACTUAL THING as proof!" And we don't always believe what scientists tell us. If they told us that mixing alchohol and clorine doesn't explode, we'll go out and test it... but if a religious leader told you that god is really a big freakin' train, you can't go out and see for yourself. Such is the beauty of science. And really, questioning science is how science gets better. Questioning religion just digs it a deeper hole. I'm not saying religion is bad... hell, it's one of the most important things we have today (for better or for worse...)... it just doesn't make sense to call science a religion, or even say it bases off religion, or is even as close as you say it is. |
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| Axelgear | Dec 28 2005, 02:47 AM Post #18 |
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Well, I'm not saying either is right or wrong, I'm just saying people don't consider religion as possible or real because they don't see that it, like all things, doesn't offer all the answers. You see, Science is an abstract concept. Nature and Science are different. Science is just an explaination of how it works, not the actual process itself, and therefore the world carries on without science. Anyway, what my point is, is this: Religion has as much place in the modern world as Science does. We can't discount something just because it relies on a higher power. We should consider Intelligent Design and Evolution equally because both are valid points. Neither can be proven or disproven, and the fact is, Intelligent Design is not religion by designation. It merely states that some higher power intervened in some way, shape, or form, and some cases actually DO include evolution in the theory. What I ask is; where is the boundry between Religion and Science? Also, as for questioning religion, you say that like Religion applies to the laws you and I know. You see, God is all powerful and created the Laws of Nature, and hence need not abide by them if he chooses not to. Hence is the bonus of Omnipotence. |
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| Snyood | Dec 28 2005, 09:37 PM Post #19 |
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Man's Laughter
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The boundry is right here, on the EN forums, where someone posted a link to a gag website and we started to discuss the difference between sicence and religion. Gods, we're idiots. I never qeustioned religion. But that last paragraph, you messed up. -You see, God is all powerful and created the Laws of Nature, and hence need not abide by them if he chooses not to. Hence is the bonus of Omnipotence.- Don't back up your argument with something like that! Come on now, man... I can understand what you mean by "That big guy (who may or may not be a guy) is all... FUCKIN' GROWIN' TREES MAN, and so that's how it happened...", but seriously. My religion pretty much states the same thing. Hell, I worship trees. (Though, they won't let me out of work because thay are "making me write on GOD"... bastards.) There's the problem! Not all religions are like that. Not all religions have beings that control the weather and hate me. I think we should end this current arguement now, this is getting extremely silly. |
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| Axelgear | Dec 28 2005, 10:53 PM Post #20 |
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Yes, it is. However, just for the record, if you were referring to the Christian God (And in my opinion, one and only), he doesn't hate you. Anyway, you're right. I could have said it better but it got my point across didn't it? |
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| Feldoon | Dec 29 2005, 11:14 AM Post #21 |
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DYEL
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Repeatable Scientific Experiments QED. |
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| Captain Wonderful | Dec 30 2005, 05:02 PM Post #22 |
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Enjoy piracy responsibly
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yes i have Furthermore, i do NOT have any blind faith in its words at all. Only things which are demonstrable at least by logical argument will i have any faith in at all. Example: I have no truck with string theory, since nobody I know is able to give any indication of why some scientists think string theory could be true. I leave it alone. Blind faith in anything is for people who want to walk into walls. Metaphorically. For me, the difference between science and religion is that religion fell apart for me as soon as I started reasoning for myself. |
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