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Help Me...Please; PSP troubles...
Topic Started: Mar 23 2005, 04:39 PM (187 Views)
Doctoroak
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Um, yeah, first post. But I was hoping that since this board is supposed to be unbiased i'd probably get some intelligent replies here (rather than other boards where it'd be like "OMGZ, PSP = EVIL")

Anyway, yeah. Sooner or later, I want a PSP. Probably later, mostly because I abhor the fact that the battery life sucks complete and utter ass and contrary to what some people think, I find it to look revolting. So basically, I'm waiting for those two features to be sorted out, more importantly the battery (They said they were looking into it anyway, so maybe it wont be that long a wait).

But what worries me is game support really.

I own a Gamecube, whilst my brother owns a PS2. (No X-boxes for personal preferences, some of which will be explained, some of which fall into my general dislike for it's apperence - something i'm hoping it's successor will improve upon. What? I'm superficial, so sue me). The reason the Gamecube is mine is because I enjoy the Nintendo games most of all. What doesn't appeal to me are games like Halo or Half-life or games like Burnout or GT Racing. I like my games chock-full of Elven Tight wearing heroes, electrically charged rats and super-fast hedgehogs. Shooting Aliens that look 00ber-realistic or driving a rally car whilst 00ber-realistic rain falls on my 00ber-realistic windscreen camera shot really doesn't impress me much.

But, Nintendo sucks when it comes to trying to get some third-party support for their machines. Everyone starts out with good will and intentions (Just look at the huge support for the DS) but then as time goes on and more people buy the third party games on the other machines, Nintendo get screwed. It happened with the N64, it's happened again with the Gamecube.

My brother's game library on the PS2 is small... and every one of them is a liscenced title, the majority of which are made by EA. I hate liscenced games, they're the laziest titles anyone could EVER come up with and they're EA's staple bread and butter, which makes me just want to poke their eyes out.

However, as far as my mind sees it, they're also the staple diet of PS2 and the PSP. Which creates a worry for me. So far the only games I know of for the PSP are Spider-man 2, THUG 2 Remix and Lumines. The first two of which are just ports, though THUG has some updates to it. The Lumines one is just a trippy puzzle game...

These are just launch titles of course, the DS launch has crap titles too (Mind you, I do looove Wario Ware...). There will undoubtedly be some better games down the line but my worry is that all the PSP will have are lazy ports and crap EA games.

If anyone has any news that can help sway that worry, please let me know. If anyone else has similar views or a point to make, also please make them known.

One more thing, I don't really care about the PSP's MP3 or UMD movie rubbish features. The movie thing seems stupid to me as it requires buying your movies again to watch in poorer quality on a smaller screen whilst Sony themselves are releasing a MUCH better MP3 player that I already have my eyes on. It's the games i'm interested in, these two features arn't even bonuses to me, they're necessary evils.

[Edit]Heh, Newbie rank = scum. Nice :P [/edit]
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Lothar Hex
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Wait till more games come out for both, and wait till it's first price drop.

The decide.
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Doctoroak
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I already have my DS. This isn't a case of deciding PSP or DS. My original intention was always to have both. But that was before E3 last year when news broke of just how ugly it was and just how terrible the battery life was.

The price tag does bother me a little, but not that much. Really, to me, it's more a matter of quality games. If all it gets are PS2 ports then maybe that'd content people who get a PS2/PSP just to be happy shooting people or running them over or whatever, but I want quality games. I've never invested much time into checking out the PS2's library to be honest. So if anyone can prove me wrong and come up with good examples that might be sequelised on the PSP (or ported), I'd be happy to hear them and check them out.

Maybe the PSP just isn't for me, but meh. I like having the choice rather than just going "Must buy all Ninty 'cause all else sux" like so many fanboys do. The only bother for me is getting some real use out of it from some real games.
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You really do need to decide whether the current games to be made for the PSP are suited to your tastes. There are a couple that are original though like Lumines. And those continuing the series on the ps2 are quite different to their predecessors. Examples include ridge Racers and Wipeout Pure.
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pygmypenguin
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You have stumbled into X-box land. Beware. People will violently attack you for mentioning the words "X-box" and "sucks" in the same sentence. Beware!

But no, that's not really true. I just keep my mouth shut. From what I've heard, the PSP is just another handheld, Sony's venture into Nintendo's realm. Nothing special, if all you want is the games. If that is all you want, as you've mentioned, you're probably just as well off getting a GBA. Cheaper and bigger library. But, you have a DS, so no need (go backwards compatability!)

The PSP is probably going to be one I lay off of.

btw, how is the DS? I'm thinking of getting one, and all I've heard is this forum's predictions and my friend that prays to Mr. Iwata.
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Well apparently the short battery life of the PSP is just a rumour. The graphics on the PSP are much better than the DS although the PSP does not have a touch screen (thank you captain freaking obvious!).

I'm getting both. A DS when I complete my exams and hopefully get 5 C grades at least. PSP for Christmas. I only want a DS for the features tho. I want a PSP because there’s another GTA game coming out for it. Not good points but it's what I think.

The only thing blocking me from money is time :P
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Doctoroak
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I'm fairly certain it's not rumours, as it was mentioned by Sony (though rather off-the-cuffly) at E3 and has been mentioned in play-test reviews. It's only one of the flaws I've read about so far, including the messed up square button that Ken Kutaragi says is completely intentional and that everyone else will just have to adapt to and the magical ejecting disc of doom.

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btw, how is the DS? I'm thinking of getting one, and all I've heard is this forum's predictions and my friend that prays to Mr. Iwata.


It's pretty good. I don't much like the current colour, i'd much rather have the sexy black one coming out but it certainly doesn't feel cheap like i've read in magazines or elsewhere. I'm not sure where they got that impression, but it feels fine to me. The main argument i'd have is that trying to do analogue on the touch screen is a pain in the ass. You get used to it, but it certainly sucks the fun out of games like Mario 64 when you're suddenly falling off the platform just 'cause your thumb came to the edge of the screen.

It really needs some good strong games though, I wouldn't really encourage anyone to pick one up unless they really, really want one right now. You'd be better waiting until after summer or something. Mind you, backwards compatability with the GBA is handy, it makes me wish i'd picked up more of the few decent GBA games to give them a go.
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Well, the game libraries are pretty much short at the moment in both handhelds. Like it was said before, in here, I'd wait to see more games coming for it that would please you.
Suprisingly, PSP is not much of a "realistic" type of console, because of the games that are going to be released in it. Altho there will be more games closer to "real" than DS, because of it's graphical abilities and such.

Here is a list of PSP games known so far. Released and future releases as well.

About the PSP design issues, Sony had a reeeeally bad attitude towards the whole Square button thing. But it's not the first time something like this happens (remember the laser deaths on both PSX and PS2), and exactly like before, Sony's hardware ninjas will fix the problems known so far, and the whole deal will be "forgotten".
The battery life is no rumor, but with the timeflow, future batteries will be developed, allowing longer time running (exactly like in the cell phone business, don't forget that Sony does everything there is about hardware and house electronics, so they are into that kind of stuff)

Altho if you already own a DS, why are you going to buy a PSP? No offense, but, if you just got a handheld, why are you wasting money on the PSP, when you can pay more attention and play on the DS? That's why people chose and research before they want to buy something.
Unless you're rich, and you feel like buying yet another handheld.
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The PSP and DS are both suffering from the same problem. Besides a couple of launch titles there isn't much to choose from.

As I see it developers are more likely to develop for the PSP if they want to focus on graphics (that or the GBA2). The DS will be more for games that use the touch screen/dual screens. RTS and FPS seem better suited to the DS, and a command and conquer game has been rumoured, with Age of Empires as a certainty.

If the PSP does end up like a portable PS2 expect a LOT of traditional style RPG's. There is the occasional non RPG gem on the PS2, such as Ico, GTA and Gregory horror show. So if you can't stand games like Final fantasy you might want to wait a while.

I'll probably end up getting it when it goes down in price. For some reason in today's world I cannot see myself not owning all the consoles, despite the fact I'm not working.
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Unless you're rich, and you feel like buying yet another handheld.

Yeah, pretty much. ^^ I wont be picking it up at launch anyways, I want to wait for battery jumps and game jumps first - but i was hoping someone with more insight into Sony's console than myself might help me make a final decision.
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I've never really liked handhelds. My brothers and my cousins had GBAs, but I skipped out on that. Basically you were playing 16-bit era sort of games on a pissy little screen with a pissy awkward controller. Now the PSP is here, and it plays PS2 type games on a pissy little screen with a pissy awkward controller. I'd rather play SNES/MegaDrive/PS2 games full size on home console on a big TV than fumble around squinting at a handheld.

The DS though, the DS intrigues me. Because it has the potential to deliver games that can't be done on other consoles. It's something entirely new, rather than a compacted, stripped down version of a home console. I've had a bash at Warioware, the Metroid demo, and Mario 64's multiplayer, and it's certainly novel. Severely lacking in killer apps right now though. Rather a weak launch lineup, and not a whole lot in the near future either. I'm considering picking one up when I go to America anyway though, since I'll probly be able to get it cheaper there, and it's region free. I guess we'll see.

I must say though, I like your style Doc Oak. All the racing and sports sims and photorealism these days bore me too. I want fantasy and escapism from my games. Let's look at some of the celebrated PSP titles, shall we?

Ridge Racer - Utterly don't care. Next.

WipEout - Well I guess having weapons puts it ahead of a straight A to B racer. The last one I played was still kinda boring though (that would've been on the Saturn...).

THUG - Eh, I never really got into Mr Hawk's games. I can't imagine being small and fiddly will do it any favours.

Metal Gear Acid - ...Cards? Oh dear.

Lumines - If it truly is 'the new Tetris', then I guess it might be cool. The music is important to it though, and I'll probably hate the music (house, and trance, and rhythm and bass, and similar bullshit).

I'm sure the PSP's future holds plenty more crap that's popular with the unwashed masses, but holds zero interest for me. No ta.

Ooh, wait, it play movies and MP3's too!

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No, hang on, I don't care. It doesn't play DVD's, you have to either buy movies in another format or somehow rip movies onto a memory stick - and all that to watch movies on a tiny little screen? Yeah, bollocks to that. I'll watch movies on a TV or cinema screen, where I can actually see what's happening. MP3s? I've got an MP3 player. It's basic, but it's small. Pretty good battery life too, battery life that isn't eaten into by playing games on it. So as selling points, these features are null and void.
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Honestly, I'd wait on the PSP till much later when the price drops and more games are out for it. Though I wonder about the sanity of the people that actually are planning on picking it up tomorrow for $250. That price for a home console, ok, but for a handheld, good lord.

I'm still working on getting an SP anyways. Too bad my employee discount doesn't work on systems.

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Yeh, for $250, one could get a PS2 and a GCN for the same price. Sure you can't walk around with them, but the PS2 plays DVDs and CD, so the music/video bit is there, and the grapics will be astronomically better. Also, where would you play? An airplane? How often do you find yourself on and airplane (unless your job requires it, but then if that's the case I doubt a PSP/DS/whatever interests you.) Or maybe you're on a bus somewhere. Or car trip. Again, how often does that happen? Personally, my lifestyle doesn't lend it to much portable gaming.

But the DS is interesting because it can do stuff that home consoles can't. What are you gonna do, stack two screens on top of one another and climb up close to the bottom one and use a pencil to activate it? I don't think so. So yeah, go DS... maybe I should get one.
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