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Guess which company is taken to court again?; clue: GTA
Topic Started: Feb 17 2005, 03:15 AM (309 Views)
Jeffk38uk
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This one definately caught my eye. Yet another case against Rockstar studios, Take-Two Interactive, Walmart, GameStop and Sony for the murder of 3 police officers by a teenage car thief. The next of kin are pinning the blame on the GTA games as a murder simualtor and to have trained and motivated the teenager. the lawsuit is for $600 million.

And guess whos the attorney, Jack Thompson, the man who, for the last decade has been fighting against violent games and such.

Funny thing though, Take-Two sympathise with the families, but mock the attorney.

"We would like to extend our deepest sympathies to the families of the officers killed."

"With regard to Mr. [Jack] Thompson, unfortunately he has a habit of doing this kind of thing often. No court has yet to take his legal claims seriously. The suggestion that there is a link between the use and sales of Grand Theft Auto and this tragic incident is utter nonsense. Anyone suggesting that such a link does exist is either misguided, misrepresenting the facts, or both."
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The next of kin are pinning the blame on the GTA games as a murder simualtor and to have trained and motivated the teenager.


Haha, I like this line. Training, yeah, I bet actual murder is exactly like it is in the game. Wait a godsdamn minute... this gun has no X button! So confused! And how's that for a murder motive. "He played a violent game." Try "He just stole a car and the cops were coming to bust his bitch ass so he shot em." That's a motive. Murder simulator, okay, reasonable description. I'd actually extend that to "violent crime simulator". But playing Premier Manager does not mean you have what it takes to manage a football team. Playing Sim City does not prepare you to run an actual city. And playing GTA does not make you killer material.
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Master Shake
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I saw this at another board. The kid stole the gun from a cop AT THE STATION and offed him and his buddy and a dispatcher and then went home.

Edit by Lothar: The rest of this post has been edited because, quite frankly, you don't need to use the word fuck every 3 words.
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Lothar Hex
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I would just like to mention that Jack Thompson has NEVER won ANY case in relation to video games causing violence. And every case he loses is just another presetent (sp?) for lawyers to use against him later.

And Master Shake, I doubt I would put it like that and I'm leaning towards giving you a warning for using the word "fuck" more times than it was needed, but yeah. Any cop that dumb deserves to be shot.
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I think it's Precedent. I'm studying law at college, that's the one thing I can remember. Quick tip - Do Not Study Law Thinking It's Glamourous Or Will Get You Easy Big Bucks. It's hard, gruelling, overhyped, and far too competitive.

Blarg.

Anyhoo, people have been trying to blame games for YEARS. I remember the ol' Manhunt case from a few months back that the Daily Mail got all bitchy about, and even did a full colour spread on other games (such as Hitman and Soldier of Fortune) when in fact Manhunt had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CASE AT ALL.

It's just plain oppertunism, people. Video games are easy targets for crimes like these, because of the stereotypical view of them. My guess is that this Ambulance chasing hack Mr. Jack Thompson won't have a leg to stand on, and lose spectacularly. And as Lothar quite rightly said, there is precedent which can and will be used against him.

The second computer games manufacturers are successfully sued, it'll open the floodgates for complaints of every kind. Final Fantasy VIII caused my child to kill himself trying out a homemade Gunblade. Warcraft III caused my child to get himself beaten up for going into a 'tavern' and provoking a fight with a bunch of 'trolls'. Adventure games of every description encouraged my son to be a kleptomaniac. And so on and so on and so on.

No right minded court would even consider taking that first step.
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Why do you think thenthat Take-Two arent taking him seriosly and saying all they said in their statement if they didnt knew he didnt win any cases priorhand.

Its unfortunate that Gaming is always the scapegoat.
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Lothar Hex,Feb 17 2005
04:02 AM
And Master Shake, I doubt I would put it like that and I'm leaning towards giving you a warning for using the word "fuck" more times than it was needed, but yeah. Any cop that dumb deserves to be shot.

Yeah, sorry for the outburst. I just get infuriated by this guy, prolly more than most people because I actually had the displeasure of meeting him.

Back when I was working at my college TV station, we got scheduled to do an uplink with CNN. They have me on camera, and when the uplink starts the guy I'm shooting goes off on a rant about how 'terrible and vile games are' and 'how they corrupt our youth'. Asshole went on for about 5 minutes, talking about the dangers of 'murder simulators like Doom' and it was all I could do not to just turn the camera off and throw my headphones at the shitheel.

What annoys me most about him is how evil he is. He represents everything wrong with the world today. He advocates lack of personal responsibility and passing out blame. He conjures up conspiracies instead of enabling people to solve their own problems. He steps on free speech in the name of his version of 'decency' and whatever money he might happen upon along the way.

So yeah, that was my close encounter of the ambulance-chasing kind.
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Would have made some good headlines though if you smacked him though.

Latest stories: Cameraman smacks ranter on games.
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How can a game make you a KILLER!!!!!!?, I mean come on anyone who can be made to kill someone from playing a game, just isn't right in the head. Any 'normal' person doesn't get inspired to kill someone from playing a game.
God man it just really pisses me off at how the goverment try to blame every thing on games, they just can't face it that games are more popular than they are. Those fucking retarded morons.
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after playing sonic heros I wanted to kill someone.
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Manic Mole,Feb 19 2005
07:21 PM
after playing sonic heros I wanted to kill someone.

Erm, why?
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I thought it was shit.
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freddy200,Feb 18 2005
10:48 PM
How the fuck can a game make you a KILLER!!!!!!?, I mean come on anyone who can be made to kill someone from playing a game, just isn't right in the head. Any 'normal' person doesn't get inspired to kill someone from playing a game.
God man it just really pisses me off at how the goverment try to blame every fucking thing on games, they just can't fucking face it that games are more popular than they fucking are. Those fucking retarded morons.

Cut down on the swearing. There isn't a filter as we have a degree of trust, please don't abuse said trust.
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Grand Master Eastwood,Feb 20 2005
10:19 PM
Cut down on the swearing. There isn't a filter as we have a degree of trust, please don't abuse said trust.

Okay, sorry
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Master Shake I can only IMAGINE what that guy woulda said if you had hit him.

Probably go on about how a 'gamer' camera man has been influenced by his games into violence at others.

Man...morons like this really get at me. Wish I had a debating time with him, I got some good straight facts to throw at him.
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Hercule Pyro
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You wouldn't be able to get a word in edgeways. For what their arguments lack in quality (Or, indeed, solid fact) they make up for in sheer volume, both in terms of amount and of noise.
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I wonder if they will acuse people of being homosexual because they played San Andreas.

Blaming a game for violence is utterly crap. It's stupid people who are to blame.
I'll make it as simple as possible: kids who spend their lives hanging with marginal groups and end up stealking and/or killing do it because of the group they are on, and since such happens, most of them don't have time to waste on video-games.
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Grand Master Eastwood,Feb 22 2005
08:42 PM
You wouldn't be able to get a word in edgeways. For what their arguments lack in quality (Or, indeed, solid fact) they make up for in sheer volume, both in terms of amount and of noise.

As much as I hate the idea, your right East, having tried a debate with an MP before I get whatcha mean.
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Retrogamer!,Feb 22 2005
11:18 PM
having tried a debate with an MP before I get whatcha mean.

And argued with me (no man will prove me wrong)

Any way the only reason this case willl fail is that companies have lawers too, and thus when people say video games cause violence all Mr corporate lawer has to say is "prove this beyond any reasonable doubt" and Rockstar, Take two or anyone else goes free and the gamers are happy.

Also any one else notice that nobody blamed the makers of The Matrix for the washinton sniper, as far as i can recall he said the people were not real anyway because he belived the matrix was real.

Or in Michel Moore style. American just bombed the shit out of Iraq and killed many inocent people so it is okay for me to shot this opresive tyranical cop who forcing his regime on me.

Or lets blame theparents,religion,TV,films,the goverment... but under no circumstances was it the guy who shot someones fault

PS I dont mean to offend any American people with this post I just hate your goverment and your media
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Fat Man,Feb 28 2005
11:09 AM
I just hate your goverment and your media

Same hither
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