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| Nervously looks at Yori; An Aya Suggestion~ | |
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| Topic Started: May 11 2010, 01:49 PM (999 Views) | |
| Deleted User | May 11 2010, 01:49 PM Post #1 |
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*awaits to be beaten to a pulp by yori's beating stick* haha, i think i know what the outcome of this will be, but i thought i'll suggest it anyway! In the profile skeleton, adding Sexual Orientation~ not important i hear you say! And you are right, it is not important, however it is fun and looking over the balence of the site, it will spur people to be more creative and possibly influence people to choose those of different sexual characteristics. Creating lovable and crazy characters in the future ![]() so yes that was my thinking~ |
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| Drake Aurelis | May 11 2010, 06:17 PM Post #2 |
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Okay, I'd just like to toss in a vote against this idea right now. Some people might find the entire subject a bit awkward, (Such as me <_<; I like to avoid it entirely) and if people want to add that in, they can anyway as it is. Putting it in the profile skeleton would indicate that it would be required to put in, and I just don't like the idea of needing to do that. |
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| Guess | May 11 2010, 06:27 PM Post #3 |
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Mmmm. I say, if you want to add it to your profile or in your character's personality or whatever, go for it, but I don't see a particular need to make it a skeleton standard. From what I understand of it, the skeleton's purpose is pretty much just to get the bare minimums down. Extra info is welcome of course, but again, not particularly necessary. |
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| Deleted User | May 11 2010, 07:05 PM Post #4 |
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Yes this is what i exspected as the general sensus~ i just think that somepeople should be encouraged to be more creative. profile skeleton could be a tool to do that. |
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| Guess | May 11 2010, 07:09 PM Post #5 |
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Harz. I can understand the sentiment, but I doubt making it necessary to declare whether your character finds guys and/or gals particularly sezzy will do much for that goal. |
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| Evona | May 11 2010, 07:10 PM Post #6 |
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None of my characters are straight. *shifty eyes* Their sexuality is complex, though, so sexual orientation wouldn't tell you much: it's better for you to "observe" how they interact with men and women. |
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| Evona | May 11 2010, 07:12 PM Post #7 |
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I think if we want to encourage more not-straight characters, we should publicize the existing ones or have a public, Den-style conversation about it: something informal. There are other ways to do it that I find better suited to the job. |
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| Sphynx | May 11 2010, 07:12 PM Post #8 |
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I honestly don't care one way or another. I wouldn't mind adding it to the skeleton just to give people something else to consider while making a character, but maybe the people that really care about this issue already put it in their profile anyway. Like Guess said, the profile skeleton is just a guideline of things to remember to add to your character's profile. It is by no means a solid template, and you don't even have to use it at all if you don't want. As long as your character has enough life and detail with whatever type of profile you end up giving to them, even if it is completely freestyle, then it would be acceptable. Another option is to add in another post in the topic of the profile skeleton with other factors to consider when making a character, things that may be helpful to know in some cases but not necessary for every profile. |
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| Yorishine | May 11 2010, 07:14 PM Post #9 |
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=3 I told you sooo~ XP Plus I really didn't want to try classifying my characters. Kit is bisexual. Vincent is... uh... straight. Cain is... he likes eating and setting stuff on fire. (Not a romance guy.) and Yorishine is Yorishine. =3 |
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| Deleted User | May 11 2010, 07:18 PM Post #10 |
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hehe i am just glad i was not beaten by a mass of admin/mods with a stick and idea is an idea~
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| Sphynx | May 11 2010, 07:19 PM Post #11 |
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Yeah, Yori is a category unto himself...herself? It. -nods- Also, I could never beat you with a stick, Aya! There are some that would deserve it, but not you! XP |
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| Yorishine | May 11 2010, 07:20 PM Post #12 |
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D= Yori takes offense to being called an it! |
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| Sphynx | May 11 2010, 07:22 PM Post #13 |
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Even from the dragon lady? |
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| Yorishine | May 11 2010, 07:23 PM Post #14 |
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...Yori withdraws its offense. |
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| Soren | May 12 2010, 03:07 AM Post #15 |
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Wow, this is one of those weird topics I have trouble understanding, bwahahahah. I agree with Evona here, since I honestly don't know what any of my characters are... 'cause that's not really the type of thing I think about xDD |
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| Deleted User | May 12 2010, 05:20 AM Post #16 |
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Ok i understand this has totally been shot down, but i jsut want to make a few points that i think are valid, from what you guys have said. Pai is right no one thinks about it, i mean it didnt even cross my mind to put in on my profile (doesnt actually remember how it came into mind or conversation but meh) that why suggesting it on the profile skele, amug other things people dont think about, helps character development and creativity.on another note, while some people dont think its not important if you like, guys, girls, both or neither. Sexual preference, searching ones own sexuality and the stages of 'comming out' can be very trumatic, leaving some people with a deep disgust for them selves, deep rooted love, it can affect friendships , familys, moods, generaly thinking about oneself. It can also affect how people react to one another, scocially, so even though the idea has been rejected yes~ i wont let anyone actually say its not important, because just form the tiny tip of iceburg stuff i have just listed i can see how that could dramatically change a characters personality, history and general feel. ok my self rightous rant is over XD |
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| Guess | May 12 2010, 08:17 AM Post #17 |
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;3 Those are indeed valid points and can be very important to a charrie's development. With that said, I feel like you've given an excellent example to how that could be vastly expanded upon in a character's history and/or personality. It could also be something that develops through RP and not something that they start out with as well. *Drums fingers* There's a variety of ways it can be played out. It's a very complex subject. Please don't misunderstand, Aya, we're not saying the topic itself is unimportant or anything. I doubt anyone was saying that. Just that it's not something that we think should be a basic requirement for the profile skeleton. What I think it boils down to is that I don't think it's our responsibility to force people from the jump to be 'creative'. That in and of itself is both touchy and subjective. I don't think we can, honestly. That's more or less something a person needs to grow into or come here with. Also, the desire for more diverse character interaction is something that a member can pick up on simply by viewing and exploring the site oocly. =D If they figure they want or need to try something new, they can make character number two. |
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| Evona | May 12 2010, 09:37 AM Post #18 |
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I think if we want people to think outside the box, compiling resources would be a good idea. Exhibit A: http://www.squidoo.com/writing-gay-characters It's a useful resource whether you're straight, gay, in-between or off the charts. |
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| Deleted User | May 12 2010, 10:24 AM Post #19 |
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I guess, growing up it a pretty liberal country in an eually liberal family, who are both diverse and blended with many cultures. i sometimes forget how touchy some people can be with such things, so let me just quickly throw in an apology for anyone who was offended by this topic~ i am happy my views have been heared, but it really doesnt end at sexuality, it can start there. The world is so enriched with personality dissorders, mental health. ugh! the list is endless. as for the point we shouldnt force people to be creative i agree, but as the many rpers who strive to become better writers, i think its important to be encouraged~ even if its for my own benefit x3 |
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| Alyth | May 30 2010, 05:05 PM Post #20 |
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What would people think of putting it in the profile skeleton but not making it a requirement? It would then serve the purpose of getting people's attention but would not limit them to it. I'm one of those people that personally doesn't like being forced to fill out profiles completely because I don't always know what my character is like before I rp with it, but they are a useful tool for helping discover that. |
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| Yorishine | May 30 2010, 05:18 PM Post #21 |
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Well the skeleton is the basic requirements. Anything else you wish to add, you're free to add. I personally have birthdays and favorite colors/animals in my profiles. But it doesn't really make much sense to include it in the skeleton just to say that it's not required... the skeleton is just what it is, a skeleton. The main structure. |
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| Janka | May 31 2010, 02:09 PM Post #22 |
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I don't think anyone has been offended, Aya. No one who posted here, at least =3 You are more than welcome to include gender identity and sexuality in your own profiles: when other people visit your profile they'll see that and if they like the idea they'll do it too. Forcing creativity never works: you can only find ways to foster it and encourage it, Walden II style. Thus, a list of tutorials, such as the one I recommended for writing LGBT characters, would probably be a good first step. If you have other topics that you don't see enough of but want to see more of, tell me or find a good piece of writing about it, and I'll post the writing or hunt one down myself. |
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