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Haven and Hearth; OH BOY
Topic Started: Jul 17 2010, 01:05 PM (9,304 Views)
Liveman Ieb
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Something bad happened in Paxia? I did it.
http://www.havenandhearth.com/portal/

To sum this up.

A Java-run survival MMO.
People play and make villages, craft, trade stuff and whatever.

The world is full of jerks and mutant wildlife that seek to destroy all who live. Or so I heard.

It seems interesting. No idea though how complex the controls would be and so on.

I also heard it's permadeath, but you can just create a new character.

The worldmap is HUEG and travel by foot is tedious.

I also heard that only losers trade for metal, real men mine their own.

Anyone interested for giving this a try?
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Goro was admitted to the hospital after the incident, and was pronounced paralyzed from the neck down. In 2016, he was outfitted with a prototype robotic replacement body. He quickly conquered the world through superior firepower.

All hail our robotic overlord, King of the World, Gorobei.
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Sounds sweet. Is it multiplayer or what?
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Liveman Ieb
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Something bad happened in Paxia? I did it.
MMO generally implies multiplayer, yes.
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Goro was admitted to the hospital after the incident, and was pronounced paralyzed from the neck down. In 2016, he was outfitted with a prototype robotic replacement body. He quickly conquered the world through superior firepower.

All hail our robotic overlord, King of the World, Gorobei.
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Oh whoops, I missed the MMO. I just read java-run. I might give it a try this evening.
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Okay now this refuses to download. Or it's a really, REALLY slow download. Maybe the server is too busy on weekends.

I take that back, it just finished. Let's see what this is about.

Okay this is interesting so far. After initial problems with the controls I now actually managed to do some things. I started somewhere in the woods so I started out by making a place to sleep and learning a few skills. Not that fancy, but still. Still need to find some sign of civilisation somewhere. And how the hell does fishing work? Or is that fishing pole they give you at the beginning incomplete?
Edited by DigDog, Jul 19 2010, 01:56 AM.
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Liveman Ieb
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Hmm. I'll give it a go myself today.
Although rather than look for civilization, I think I'll make a camp of my own. If more people want to try this, we could just turn it into a village.

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Goro was admitted to the hospital after the incident, and was pronounced paralyzed from the neck down. In 2016, he was outfitted with a prototype robotic replacement body. He quickly conquered the world through superior firepower.

All hail our robotic overlord, King of the World, Gorobei.
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I'm currently trying to gather some skills. Maybe I'll be able to build myself a house soon. Then we could start claiming land and do that village thing.
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So I played a bit and made a few experiences. Some interesting things I've experienced:

- Boars don't like you. They attack you as soon as they see you
- You can't really run from them, they're almost as fast as you but you have only limited stamina
- if you take a lot of hits then your shoes will break
- Walking through the woods without shoes is bad. You get a thorn into your foot every so often that drains your life and sometimes even KO's you. My char is a pansy.
- You can't even win a fight against ants if you don't have any attack skills
- Getting too hungry is bad and takes your health away
- The starting fishing pole is missing a hook, a bait and a string

But let's get to some positive things I've found out

- Chopping down a tree gives you whopping 50 Learning Points and doesn't take too long, making it a good source for LP to get new skills. Take lumberjacking as your first skill
- You can, and this is one of the most influential things I've found out, pick up rabbits and rats without a fight by right-clicking them when you stand next to them. Rats on a stick are yummy.
- Building houses is only possible on paved land. You can only pave plowed land though, so get yourself a plow.
- Fishing is apparently only possible at specific spots. Didn't find one of these yet though.

So now that I finally learned the ropes of some stuff I'm beginning to get a foot into the door. I've started to build a house now. One thing that bothers me is where I get food from. I can't live off rabbits and rats forever. I think I need to find a fishing spot. I wish I could get my hands on some seeds so that I could start some extreme farming.
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Okay it seems like fishing is a very good source for food. One fish gives you at least as much food as a rabbit, but you have way less hassle with catching them since fishing doesn't require any stamina, just some time. You even get LP for fishing. Only downside is that you have to keep some replacement materials since your fishing line can snap, your hook can break or you can lose your lure. You notice that your fishing pole is broken when some "ZZZ"s appear above your char. This means it is idle/afk or something, this only happens when it is doing nothing.
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Liveman Ieb
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So do you need to make all the tools yourself, albeit slowly, or do you need to trade for a plow somewhere?
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Goro was admitted to the hospital after the incident, and was pronounced paralyzed from the neck down. In 2016, he was outfitted with a prototype robotic replacement body. He quickly conquered the world through superior firepower.

All hail our robotic overlord, King of the World, Gorobei.
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You can make everything yourself. You can even find the seeds yourself, given you have the proper skills.

Oh, another important thing I found out that's kind of obvious unless you don't know it: your hunger bar only depletes when you use stamina. To refill your stamina bar it will consume the food you ate. So don't freak out if you're really hungry, as long as you don't do things that cost stamina you're fine. And since walking around or fishing takes no (or very, very little) stamina you can easily hunt for food when you're low.
Edited by DigDog, Jul 20 2010, 02:01 AM.
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Liveman Ieb
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Something bad happened in Paxia? I did it.
Maan, it's like someone really tried making "Dwarf Fortress: The MMO".

Even the insane animals killing you are in the game.

So I tried it out. Looks promising.
Although at the moment I can't do anything. And I lack skill points.

I decided to just peel a lot of tree bark for the time being until I get enough points for lumberjacking. JUST 170 MORE TIMES TO GO!

I would have chased down a rabbit but it went to an anthill. Seemed like a bad idea to go after them.

So it looks like if we get more people playing, we need to get specialists on this. Rather than everyone being jack-of-all-trades.

Also, how does the map work?

I noticed that the river is blue, but after I left the starting area, there was this big green area.

I assume that's a forest.

Do villages or whatever get marked there too? Also, DO YOU HAVE A HEARTH THING AT THE MOMENT?

So I can jump where you are at and we could work together for relocation and so on?
Edited by Liveman Ieb, Jul 20 2010, 08:07 AM.
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Goro was admitted to the hospital after the incident, and was pronounced paralyzed from the neck down. In 2016, he was outfitted with a prototype robotic replacement body. He quickly conquered the world through superior firepower.

All hail our robotic overlord, King of the World, Gorobei.
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Oh don't fear the ants. I think only the mean big animals attack you on their own, like boars and bears. Don't fear ants and foxes and stuff, they won't do anything unless you start it. Oh but foxes tend to chase rabbits, so they sometimes steal them from you. Foxes are jerks.

Yeah, the map kinda works like this. Buildings/paved stuff is gray if I remember right, forest is green, jungle or whatever that is is yellow-ish. Haven't found other climates yet because I didn't bother to wander around.

I'm currently collecting a new Beautiful Dream so I can create a Hearth Fire at my newly finished house. Hell yeah.

Let me see if I can catch you on MSN.
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Liveman Ieb
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Something bad happened in Paxia? I did it.
The game is amusing.
People should totally join and VILLAGE IT UP.

After you've made your char, and are in that room somewhere, go to the upper right character and talk with 'em.

The hearth secret for Dig's place/the place to BRO it up is right below(to make it more clear).

STRAIGHT INTO MY MANGAN
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Goro was admitted to the hospital after the incident, and was pronounced paralyzed from the neck down. In 2016, he was outfitted with a prototype robotic replacement body. He quickly conquered the world through superior firepower.

All hail our robotic overlord, King of the World, Gorobei.
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Liveman Ieb
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While on yet another food scavenging hunt, I found out a few things.

First, our neighbours above have built a long fenced walkway for some reason. I've yet to start breaking it apart to get through faster.

Second, bears are jerks. I managed to catch three rabbits, then a bear spotted me and started chasing me down.

After it hit me down, it suddenly began to hang around, and the moment I would get out of unconscious state, it'd attack again.

So evade bears at all cost, you're just going to flee from them anyway.
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Goro was admitted to the hospital after the incident, and was pronounced paralyzed from the neck down. In 2016, he was outfitted with a prototype robotic replacement body. He quickly conquered the world through superior firepower.

All hail our robotic overlord, King of the World, Gorobei.
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I've seen that walkway too, maybe they built it so they can walk there without getting attacked. You know, by bears or something.
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Liveman Ieb
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Something bad happened in Paxia? I did it.
I guess they just got tired of building. Or like me, they're about to kick the bucket from starvation.

Although I got better.
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Goro was admitted to the hospital after the incident, and was pronounced paralyzed from the neck down. In 2016, he was outfitted with a prototype robotic replacement body. He quickly conquered the world through superior firepower.

All hail our robotic overlord, King of the World, Gorobei.
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I've yet have to find a lake so I can fish me some sweet, sweet plaice. Those things raise your perception when you eat enough of them, and good perception means you find more stuff you can forage. Like that one root you need for prospecting. Or seeds for flax and wheat.
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Liveman Ieb
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After many hazards, times of near starvation death and other fun things, MY HOUSE IS NEARING COMPLETION. Just need to put all the bough in place and I too will have moved up to a more civilized state of living.

I've never been so happy. No wait, the guy is unhappy. Never mind.
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Goro was admitted to the hospital after the incident, and was pronounced paralyzed from the neck down. In 2016, he was outfitted with a prototype robotic replacement body. He quickly conquered the world through superior firepower.

All hail our robotic overlord, King of the World, Gorobei.
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Reminds me that I have no clue where you built it.
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Tuss
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The game doesn't work for me.
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That's a very descriptive error report. Care to explain what excactly isn't working?

Maybe you don't have Java installed. Check www.java.com to install it.

Or do you mean "doesn't work for you" as in it doesn't tickle your fancy?



Edited by DigDog, Jul 26 2010, 10:00 PM.
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Tuss
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When I got this error message when I first tried to play it:

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So I downloaded some coffee and tried again. It still doesn't work
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Funny, Fishtank got a similiar error message for totally different reasons.

...wait, you're in Canada too, aren't you?

Anyway, what does the details button say?
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It says the error is: Unable to load resource:http://www.havenandhearth.com/java/jogl/jogl.jnlp

Then there's three tabs holding a bunch of jargon-esque information that I can barely understand some of.
Edited by Tuss, Jul 27 2010, 12:01 PM.
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