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No More FF7?(For now...); Creators Interview
Topic Started: Nov 24 2011, 01:58 PM (1,504 Views)
Zeryll
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Good to know they're not screwing FFVII any more than they already have <_< Seriously, CoFFVII is kind of ruined. It contradicts itself way too much. Tbh, the original FFVII alone is enough for me, ACC is sometimes good entertainment. Otherwise, I won't touch to the rest of CoFFVII again (save some CC FMVs :rolleyes: ).

Ok, I'll shut up now.
Edited by Zeryll, Dec 2 2011, 04:51 PM.
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revan
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It's nice to hear that from Kitase. Seems that Nomura isn't the only one on board with pro-interpretation after all. :shifty:

Zeryll
 
Tbh, the original FFVII alone is enough for me, ACC is sometimes good entertainment.

Exactly this. The original game is all there needed to be. Advent Children is okay, but the rest of the Complication of FFVII lacked what made the first game so nice. :lol:
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Beatrix
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Nice to hear him say that. Even if they screwed a bit with fan interpretations with the Compilation. And I know he must be talking about FF7 as a whole... but I'm pretty much sure he's aware of the love triangle thing. It's left up to interpretation. We keep saying this for years but apparently, "some fans" (you know the ones) never wanted to believe us. I'm glad we have some sort of official "back-up".
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revan
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Beatrix, I think you're absolutely right.

I think it's nice that, despite everything, they do care for our individual love of the world and characters in FFVII. ^_^
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SE has stated by now they're not going to solve the LTD. What I wish they would solve:

The end of Dirge of Cerberus(spoiler)

apparently a giant weapon was being raise or something?

This means yes we need a sequel to dirge of cerberus, but that should probably end the entire series I'd hope, and hopefully they wouldn't confirm cloti in it(I doubt they would).
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Dreamstar
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Ok! New interview-If FFVII Remake did happen. They would change EVERYTHING?

So apparently, Kitase has come out and said that if they do remake FF7, they would change everything. But he won't remake it because of like the interview before I posted. People love the original story!

What is everyone's thoughts exactly? I'm sort of disappointed that they could actually live with themselves by changing the story on us! :no:
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Now he didn't say they would change everything.

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"If I may speak as a game creator, if we were to produce a remake of VII, for example, I would be really tempted to delete things and add new elements, new systems or whatever because if we were to make exactly the same thing now, it'd be like a repeat,"

"It'd be an issue of repetition and not as much fun to make such a game. So I'd be really interested in rearranging games or reshaping games into something slightly different even though it's supposed to be the same game. But if we did that, the fans might be disappointed or 'this is not what I was expecting' so in that sense maybe some might say that it's better to let memory be memory."

He talked about how, when he now plays games he worked on in the past, he's able to identify things that make him think "'oh, that is not really cool' or 'that probably should have been a bit better than that' and that sort of thing."

"But on the other hand, those slightly negative features and bits, for some of the really enthusiastic fans of these titles, that gives the game extra flavor or personality or whatever," he said. "So maybe they would rather we didn't do anything about it and we just leave it in as it is. It's very difficult to decide what we should we keep in and what we should take out."

I generally think Kitase is mainly talking about gameplay issues, battle systems, mini games and such. But he is talking about some things with the story and characters naturally they would have to think about stuff like that. The Compilation has changed a lot of things with the story and they would have to go back and look at everything so they could make at least a proper connection to everything. There's also the problem with voice acting which would take away a lot of the player's control of what Cloud says and what he does that would be one major change. I understand what he's saying, it is was just giving a "pretty makeover" and nothing was changed like with the battle systems and other things it would be very dated and also very critised by fans and the media a like.

I would want the story to be as true to the original as possible which includes all of the pervertish and bizarre humour in VII cause its amazing. :lol: But I would want some new things in it also.
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Anti-R
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Can't be helped. The Compilation did compromise the overall story. They'd make Vincent and Yuffie recruitment non-optional, for one, because they were there in the sequels. We'd see Denzel running around the streets of Sector 7, and more Draco in Leather pantsed the ShinRa group such as the Turks because they were given a sympathetic characterization in the spinoff series than the original version, more DeepGround hooligans, and so on and so forth.

And F*ing Genesis. Damn him.
Edited by Anti-R, Nov 29 2011, 06:04 AM.
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Alan Bates
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Changing everything... that's actually an interesting idea.

I think rather than making "Final Fantasy VII but with better graphics" the more interesting option would be to make a "what if" version of Final Fantasy VII. I'm thinking something like "Final Fantasy: Other Seven," and exploring how things could have went differently.

Suppose Tifa didn't hook up with AVALANCHE. Zangan took her off somewhere secluded to train and recover. Would Cloud have stuck around? Would he have ended up working with AvALANCHE at all?

Or maybe when he makes it to Midgar, Aeris is the one that finds him at the train station.

Maybe nobody finds him, then in his deluded state he goes back thinking he still works for Shinra as a SOLDIER.

Or what would it have been like if Zack lived instead of Cloud? Or they both lived? Or what if they both got gunned down by the Shinra?

I think that's the route I would want to take if I did anything even resembling a remake.
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Beatrix
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I kinda understand his reasoning. Making the EXACT same thing wouldn't exactly be an improvement.
Concerning my favorite game, Xenogears, I would change many things if I could (honestly, I think this game/story really needs to be revisited in a lot of ways... not just have its graphics and translation remade). As a fan, I actually can in the form of fanworks. But if I were Takahashi and it was my actual work, changing the canon to improve it would lead to extreme reactions from the fanbase. For every changes, there would be unhappy people.
With this in mind, I can totally understand why Kitase doesn't want to really remake FF7. Artistically, adding and removing/improving stuff is more interesting. But with the fandom in mind, it's a pretty risky thing to do. And knowing how the FF7 fandom (and I) loooovvvved (*sarcasm*) the added stuff in the Compilation, it's probably best to leave FF7 alone I think (plus, does it REALLY need a remake, frankly ? The game isn't so painful to play, it's not really uncomplete either...).
Edited by Beatrix, Nov 30 2011, 05:02 PM.
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Dreamstar
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I understand the game system and different stuff added and taken out, but I just know Square would get carried away. Like Genesis in Nibelheim anyone? lol
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Prince Roxas
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SE seems to be obsessed with the Nibelheim event, they keep on going back to it and tweaking stuff even more and retconning other stuff to. Next we will find out that Aerith was there during the event and Red got caught up on it to! :fish:
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Dreamstar
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I know. I liked the original version better in FF7. I dunno if anyone realized in the original version of when Sephiroth impales Cloud. It doesn't take place at Jenova's room. It's the entrance of the reactor. Still till this day when I play CC and watch lame-old Last Order, I'm like, "W-T-F?" :lol:
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I actually don't like the position creators take when they say they don't want to touch the fan's interpretation. I really respected J.K. Rowling when she didn't really care about the shipping wars and just did what was true to her vision and her story. It makes for much better story telling imo. If it turned out CxT was official, I would deal with it, but I would respect them more than this shipping baiting. However, being a Clerith, I seriously doubt CxT is cannon. :lol:
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Channy
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If they were to remake VII it WOUlD have to be completely redun. VII doing done as it is was a technological marvel. Does anyone remember the loading times? No? Because they didn't exist! It was a hugely debated problem that the loading times would be too high/long, and just look at other games down the line? They were. But VII managed to save that.

Also, overhauling the ENTIRE map in 3D non static renders? Holy shit.VII is a vast vast VAST world, made only bigger by the compilations inclusions. It would no doubt be a two disker for PS3, and or even 4/5 for Xbox.

Now the retconning. How much they have done to the series as a whole since the comp is astounding. So whatever they added/took away from VII in a remake, would then, be officially canon. And please and upset a lot of people at once. Genesis at Nibelheim? NO WAY. Zack's overdramatic death? PUH-LEASE. There's no pleasing every single fan, and thats what they worry about.

There's no doubt it would be a huge project, made even bigger with success. Old fans and new fans alike would play it. It would be the highest selling PS3 game, probably ever. Who knows of people who wanted to play VII but couldnt because of the graphics? Yah, it would get EVERYONE.

That said, I don't think its ever 100% off the table. They'd be stupid not to do it.

Also, I do seem to remember an interview in where someone mentioned that the Compilation would be open until its 20th anniversary. This year it's 15 years old, so I imagine a title, either port for BC, might be released.. but whether we get a final conclusion (to DoC) or a remake, a project could very well be in the makes for the next 5 years and we don't know it.
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