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Xenogears Poster; Tifa
Topic Started: Aug 12 2011, 07:33 AM (797 Views)
aerithbunny
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http://www.ffcompendium.com/misc/xenotifa.gif

Dunno if anyone else saw this, but Tifa is in a poster in Xenogears. Check out the back of the picture, one of the posters.

Because YES another FF7 thing had to be in a completely unrelated game, though I'm not sure if SE makes Xenogears or not :cloud:
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Yeah.

It's mutual, as FF7 referenced the game back. But thanks to translation error, Cloud kinda messed up the word "Xenogears" as he was babbling when he got mako poisoned in Mideel (Cid as the leader).

Missed moment of awesome, really.
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What was he actually supposed to say to reference to Xenogears then? Anyone have that proper translation? Or was it just stopped at his mindless babbling?(due to poisoning)
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IIRC he said "xino... gias..."

I think he was trying to say a couple of lines from the game's theme song too.
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Oh yeah... this.
In the american PC version, Cloud is saying this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Y_R60r-0Y
By the way, am I the only one who find this scene... a bit creepy (must be because of the wheelchair... and the music... and Cloud is being very weird...) ?

Oh well... I think Xenogears and FF7 referenced each other because Kato wrote scenes for both games (HE wrote the Cloud/Tifa parts). Also, it's interesting to know that Xenogears also referenced FF6... because Soraya Saga (Takahashi's wife) created the Figaro AND the Fatima's families. The Figaro have a castle travelling under the sand, the Fatima have a ship shaped like a submariner doing the same. Most of the Fatima are blond with blue eyes. Same with the Figaro. Both families are, of course, royal. Edgar's cousin wants to marry him... Bart's cousin is supposed to. And also, 2 brothers from the Fatima's family were called Roni and Rene. Those names are the second names of Sabin and Edgar.

Plus, Soraya Saga drew a FF6 doujinshi and expanded on the Figaro's background story. I think she told people it wasn't meant to be canon... but she actually created a big family tree that probably helped her to create the Fatima's family tree later on.

Xeno also referenced Chrono Trigger (Lucca made a cameo in the first village and Shevat is like Zeal)... because I heard Xenogears was supposed to be, at first, a sequel for CT. A Kato's game. Kato also wrote the lyrics of the song Small of Two Pieces... so in a way... it's no surprise to read bits of it coming from Cloud's mouth (well, I assume most of his babbling is taken from the song... just weirdly translated).

And well... Xenogears could have been FF7 (Takahashi presented his ideas to Sakaguchi but apparently, Xeno's story was too dark/controversy for the FF series, so it got refused but Square allowed him to create his own game...) so... they're kinda linked together.
Plus, both main male characters have serious issues and both games deal with Oedipus Complex. Oh, and there was a love triangle first planned in Xenogears... between Elly, Fei and... Fei's country girl, friend and crush, Alice. In the Perfect Works (Xeno's Bible, kinda like FF7's Ultimania books), it is said they chose to kill her off right from the start so she wouldn't come between Fei and Elly's epic love story . I'm almost sad they did this... because that's kinda sexist if they didn't think they could develop Alice into something more interesting than a lovesick girl (but well, if I had to rant about how stereotypically the female characters were treated in this game and how much they deserved more/better... this post would never end, lol). And I think Elly is like a mix between both Aerith and Tifa.
Hey, talking about Kato and Cloti... I always thought Serge/Lenna from Chrono Cross was kinda mocking Cloti (some alternate endings made me laugh hard).
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Yeah, I'm not pleased what Xenogears did to Elly. She had so much character potential gone to waste.

But then again, it was rushed. Rumors that the staff were taken from that game for FFVIII was the cause of it.

Ironically, her counterpart, Miang, is an awesome and interesting female antagonist though.
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Wow these games really are intertwined. I just lol'd at the reference with the poster, and EVERY scene with Cloud in a wheel chair in FF7, with the music, the general poisoning, how he was: all were creepy. >>

Actually not a strong moment in the game of FF7 either when Cloud's in the wheel chair and Cid's leading the team. Of course Tifa helping Cloud through it all with her concern for him. But I didn't know he was referencing Xenogears in his slurred speech until now.
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