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| Angelalex242 | May 23 2011, 07:56 PM Post #31 |
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Keeper of the Intimacy of Aerith's soul living in Cloud
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Hmmm. In a universe where Aerith survives: The trick is figuring out how a living Aerith can mobilize the lifestream against Sephiroth. It would almost be better to have an FF7-2 (Like FFX-2) where the quest to bring her back happens after the fact. |
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| aerithbunny | May 23 2011, 10:57 PM Post #32 |
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Yes except FF7-2 wouldn't have completely awful voice acting, and wouldn't try and kill Alan's dog after X kicked it. JK no in all seriousness, 7-2 would be a good idea as long as no one does what X-2 did wrong. |
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| Prince Roxas | May 23 2011, 11:16 PM Post #33 |
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Wasn't Advent Children VII-2? I think if they did do an actual VII sequel itself SE would receive a lot of critism about doing another not needed sequel rather than remake VII. |
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| yin-chan | May 23 2011, 11:39 PM Post #34 |
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(I liked X-2 :lol: ) But yeah, I don't think a VII-2 is necessary.. there's already AC and ACC and the million other spin-offs.. I'm sick of FF7 being milked to death!
This. I always thought, "Gurl, what are you smoking" everytime Aerith said Cloud and Zack were alike, they didn't seem anything alike to me, not even the hair. But I supposed if he moved in the same way you couldn't really tell with those blocky graphics.
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| bustersword | May 25 2011, 01:27 AM Post #35 |
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no it is completely impossible to rewrite the game into a sequel alan how is the dialog coming along |
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| Alan Bates | May 25 2011, 12:13 PM Post #36 |
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I have some ideas, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around how everything fits together in context. Let me see if we're on the same page here, that way I understand where you're coming from and don't have to go back and rewrite anything. The game plays out MOSTLY normal up until Aeris gets stabbed. She lives but is badly hurt. Sephiroth then comes back for her (knowing why he comes back and doesn't just try killing her again would be helpful). AVALANCHE continues on, goes through Icicle Inn and then through the North Crater. Cloud trades the Black Materia for Aeris. (Again, unsure why Sephiroth would give her up. It might work better here if when you get Aeris back, you find out she's near catatonic or something.) Cloud freaks out about not being a real person, falls into the Lifestream, Normally at this point, the game continues with Tifa waking up as a prisoner of the Shinra. Is Aeris with them? Is she with Cid and the others on the Highwind? Has she already been taken to the doctor at Mideel and the team goes to visit her after escaping? Knowing some of these things would be a tremendous help. |
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| bustersword | May 27 2011, 03:00 AM Post #37 |
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He takes her to try to hurt cloud and get the black materia back oh forgot cloud wont get the black materia to sephiroth earlier He does it because he knows that it is the only way to get cloud to. cloud will be able to take control of himself. She will be on the highwind Cid took her there so yes you will still play as tifa then she will be dropped off at Mideel |
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| Alan Bates | May 27 2011, 03:21 AM Post #38 |
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Okay. I think I can work with that. |
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| Alan Bates | Jun 8 2011, 02:48 PM Post #39 |
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Highwind scene and a few extra bits .... Random airship dialog before finding Cloud in Mideel Aeris: …! No. I’m sure Cloud will be okay…I was just worried about something else. That’s it. ---- Finding Cloud in Mideel… (modified game script) (if Aeris isn’t in your group, she should join you here.) Aeris: (Upon entering the town) He’s close by. I can feel it but at the same time he’s very far away … On entering the clinic: Tifa: is he …. Aeris: (if possible, Aeris’s dialog box interrupts and partially covers over Tifa’s) Where’s Cloud? Doctor: Here now. The way you're running around here, you'd think Meteor fell or something. Aeris: I’m looking for some one. Spiky hair? Blue eyes? He’s here isn’t he? Doctor: A friend...? Oh yeah......! That young fellow!? Don't worry. Your friend is next door. But I'm afraid his condition is... Tifa: Here? Over here. (Tifa sees Cloud sitting in a wheelchair.) Tifa: Cloud...!? I'm so glad you're safe!? ......!? (surprised) Cloud......? Cloud: Uh...... aa......? Aeris: (Aeris cute leaning pose) Cloud? Hello? Tifa: Wh...... what's wrong...... Cloud......? Aeris: Cloud? (thoughtful pose) Cloud: Zarg… hi…das ? Tifa: Cloud! What happened to you......!? Doctor: Mako poisoning...... Quite an advanced case...... It appears this young man's been exposed to a high level of Mako energy for a protracted period of time. He probably has no idea who or where he is now...... Poor fellow, his voice doesn't even work. He is literally miles away from us. Some place far away where no one's ever been... All alone...... Aeris: The Lifestream? Direct contact….it can do this? (still in thoughtful pose) Tifa: Doctor......!! (other team members comment) Tifa: Cloud...... Doctor: Ahem! Let us excuse ourselves. (to other team members) Listen, would you all mind...... waiting outside? Tifa: Why......? What do you want me to do? Please, Cloud...... Talk to me...... Tell me you see me, that you can hear me...... Tell me, please...... I came this far believing in the memories we have together... This isn't happening......! This is too cruel...... Oh, Cloud......! I......... Aeris: Tifa, get a grip. You’re not helping. Cloud will be … alright. I think… NO! I KNOW it! He’ll be… won’t he? (Outside, outside team members) (team member comment) Doctor: I'll say it again, he's got Mako poisoning. I've never seen a case this bad. An immerse amount of Mako-drenched knowledge was put into his brain all at once...... No normal human could survived it...... It's a miracle he did! (team member comment) Doctor: But remember, the light of hope can be found anywhere. Listen, if you give up hope... What will happen to him? Tifa: ......... Tifa: Yes...... I'm sorry I had you all worried. And I have something I want to tell you all...... I don't care about anything else, only Cloud...... I......want to be by his side...... Aeris: Tifa, don’t be a baby! Cloud’s been through a lot. He’ll survive. That’s what he does. He’ll … live. … He has to! Right now we’re fighting for the Planet. Everything we’ve done. All Cloud has done… It’ll all be for nothing . We need you … Tifa: I don’t care! I need Cloud. I can’t leave him alone like this. (team member comments) Tifa: I'm sorry, everyone... At a time like this...... (team comments) Aeris: Maybe… maybe we don need somebody here. To watch him and make sure he’s safe. Okay, Tifa. I’m trusting you to keep Cloud safe for me--us. Tifa: Right...... ----- During the leadership discussion Barret: I ain't sayin' nothin' 'bout nothin'. You just... shut your face! Every group's gotta have a leader. An' that's me! Or at least I wanna be... Bit I ain't cut out to be no leader. I never knew that till lately. … Maybe you should be leader, Aeris. You the only one that seems to know shit about what’s goin’ on half the time. Aeris: What? Who? Me? No! A leader has to be strong, tough, like Cloud. I’m just a flower girl. Cid: ......ZZZZ...... hmph? Wha? What's goin' on? Barret: You been chosen to be the new leader. Cid: Pain in the ass. Forget it. Barret: But for us to fight, we gotta have Highwind, and you. We need it to save the Planet. An' who's runnin' this ship? You! That's why you're our new leader. Ain't no one else can. Cid: Hm...... this ship's gonna save the Planet, huh? Ain't that gonna be just a little tough? Aeris: Come on. Please? Cid: Oh man, that went straight to my heart. I'm a man, too! Okay, I'll do it! Everyone, follow me! Barret: Awright, now here's the first job. The Operation Room's waiting for you! Cid: Yeah!! Barret: Yo, Cid! When you're ready, we're headin' for the Corel Reactor. C'mon Mr. leader, you'd better hurry. ---- Airship dialog after the Corel and Ft. Condor missions Aeris: I’ve been trying to hide it, but I’ve been worried sick about Cloud. … it sounds funny around him there. I can’t tell if it’s him or the Planet. It sounds like screaming and crying all at the same time. I didn’t want to leave him. ---- (a the beginning of the Lifestream event after Tifa awakens in Cloud’s subconscious) Tifa: ............Where am I......? Cloud!? What is this......!? Aeris (not visible on screen): I don’t know if you can hear me, but I’m trying to help you. Something is wrong in Cloud’s mind, but I don’t know what. Tifa: (no obvious signs that she heard Aeris at all) You’re searching, aren’t you? Searchig for yourself. ...... I can help too. We'll work together to try and get the real you back. But...... Where do we start......? ---- After the Lifestream event, when Cloud and Tifa emerge, Aeris should either be there praying or unconscious herself… ---- At some point on the airship but not THE Highwind scene… Aeris: It’s hard to believe I’m up here. Cloud: (if you said you promised to take up on the airship) Hey, I said I promised, right? Or Cloud: (if you said you should probably destroy it) Yeah (Cloud scratches head) I didn’t think this would happen either. Aeris: It’s just so peaceful up here. Cloud: Over all this racket? Aeris: The Planet. It’s so high up you can hardly hear the Planet. It’s so quite up in the sky, but looking down, everything is so small. It’s so easy to forget the details. Do you think the Planet forgets? Does it see each one of us as people, or does it only see the bigger landscape? Cloud: I think it would see you? You’re something special… …! The last Cetra, I mean. Aeris: In Midgar, you didn't get to see the sky that much. To tell the truth, when I was younger, I was actually afraid of the sky. I was afraid it would suck me up into it. Cloud: that's... kind of dumb. (pause. Aeris lowers her head a bit, maybe takes a few steps around around.) Aeris: HAHAHA it is isn't it? Cloud: HAHAHA yeah, afraid of the sky? Aeris: "Oh we can go across country and save the world, as long as I don't have to go outside!" HA HA HA Cloud: You wouldn't have been able to get me to carry an umbrella over the head the whole trip. Aeris: I wouldn't? Oh I think I could have convinced you. (Aeris does that little bend at the waist leaning things she does) I'm pretty sure. -------Highwind scene ------ Aeris: So, everyone else is gone. Cloud: yeah, except you and me. Didn’t you want to see Elmyra again? Aeris: Mom will understand. What about you? Cloud: I really don’t have anywhere else to go. Aeris: So when we beat Sephiroth… then what? Cloud: I don’t know where I’ll go from there. Aeris: Oh that? That’s easy. You’ll come with me. Cloud: Really? Aeris: You said yourself, you don’t have anywhere else to go, so you’re going to come with me. That’s all there is to it. Cloud: heh heh … … you said when we beat Sephiroth. You really don’t have any doubt do you. Aeris: Not for a minute. My life … it’s not always exactly been fun … but I can’t waist time worrying that things won’t work out. I’ve always been sure that somehow, some way, everything will be fine in the end. We’re fighting for the Planet, and our friends, even the people we don’t know. I’m sure the Planet is watching out for us too. Cloud: I wish I had your optimism Aeris: You wouldn’t know what to do with it, if you did. Cloud: I’ll just leave that to you then. You know, It’s hard to believe we’ve only know each other for such a short time. I think , if I had met you earlier in life, I probably wouldn’t have been nearly the wreck I turned into. Aeris: I can’t imagine you being any different, nor do I want to. I like ‘the wreck’ it’s cute in a funny awkward sort of way. Cloud: You always seem to know just what to say. Aeris: and you never do, but that’s one of the reasons I like you so much. Cloud: I think, this time, I might know what to say. Aeris: Oooh! Really? Cloud: Tomorrow, we might not come back. There’s a very real chance that we won’t make it out alive. Even if you don’t think so, we might be spending our last night on the Planet here tonight, so if you could humor me, since it’s our last night… Aeris: Even if it wasn’t… (fade to black) |
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| MaxFF | Jun 8 2011, 04:12 PM Post #40 |
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I don't think I saw anything about this anywhere in the thread yet so I'll just ask. What are you going to do at the part where they take Bugenhagen to the forgotten capital. Basically they went there to figure out what Aerith was doing, and that's when they found out about the white materia and how it worked. Since Aerith is still alive she canl just tell them about the white materia, so that entire part seems unnecessary unless I'm forgetting something. They certainly won't need Bugenhagen if they have Aerith. Just wondering how you were planning to handle that part of the game. |
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| bustersword | Jun 10 2011, 03:17 AM Post #41 |
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@ Alan I love it thank you so much um.. can I ask you to start the script on the battle of Midgar and the Last Fight with Sephiroth plus the final cut scene. I will try to post a video of the NEW Highwind scene. @MaxFF this scene will be scrapped do to Aerith didn't die and the game only has so much space so deleting this scene will free up space for the added dialog |
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| Alan Bates | Jun 11 2011, 03:22 PM Post #42 |
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I'll give it a shot, and if anybody wants to pitch anything in or has a comment/criticism/complaint/suggestion about any of the lines I did do, feel free. Edit: Additional scene if you take Aeris to Icicle Inn. (You might want to have it where you can't watch the videos the first time you go there. Maybe the player doesn't work and you have to get somebody to fix it, and they don't finish fixing it up until after you get Aeris back. Something like that would be nice.) Aeris( upon either first finding the videos or first hearing that a Cetra had recorded them): Cloud, we have to watch those! We just have to! Aeris: (after watching "The Original Crisis"): That was my mom! ... wow... Aeris (after watching "What is "Weapon?"): That's a lot to take in. I never knew. Aeris: (after watching Confidential: Daughter's Record: 10th Day after birth) This is so embarrassing. Aeris (after watching Daughter's Record: 20th Day after birth) (Aeris walks outside without saying a word) (Outside) Aeris: Watching that ... I've never hated anyone so much in my life. I want him to die, Cloud, and that scares me. Dialog choice... option 1 Cloud: You're only human. Aeris: human? ... (Aeris then does some cute or energetic pose.) Thanks. You don't know how much hearing that that means to me. Option 2 Cloud: He deserves it. Aeris: ... (turns away and hangs head sadly.) I'd like to think I was better than that. Also, I don't know if it's at all possible, but this could be a good place to find a new Weapon for Aeris. If it's not possible to have a new one, maybe one of her better hard to get weapons, like the Parasol or Princess Guard. |
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| aerithbunny | Jun 11 2011, 06:06 PM Post #43 |
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I'm thinking the Princess Guard was her best weapon but we COULD do what a lot of other games have done: Save the Queen. It was used in several final fantasy games and in KH for Donald's last weapon. I think it would make sense for Aerith; or we can just try to make one up. |
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| Alan Bates | Jun 11 2011, 06:38 PM Post #44 |
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Well, if we are tossing out names for new weapons (assuming it's even possible to add something like that) let's throw out a few things that are bit more Aeris centric. We could have something like the Cetra Rod or the Ancients Staff. Cherry Blossom, which is a reference to Cloud's final Limit in FF tactics. Prologus (Prologus Rod? Prologus Staff?) Reference to her Dissidia appearance. Lemure Staff (Lemure is actually a FFV refernce but look at it http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Lemure Primrose or Dalaran Defender, a reference to Warcaft which referenced Aerith. In Warcraft, there's a VERY familiar looking Flower seller in the city of Dalaran named Aerith Primrose. |
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| aerithbunny | Jun 12 2011, 04:29 AM Post #45 |
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Why not add all of them since we still have a bunch of game to go through in the alt mode? |
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