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Ff7 What If Or Alt End Mod; a mod for ff7 to get an alt end
Topic Started: May 16 2011, 03:15 AM (2,501 Views)
bustersword
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@ Anastar
I like you idea but I need some kind of item or if statement to start the alt. ending and as of now you can't use affection to make a whole plot shift so an item must be add to the game to start the new chain of events.

sorry if that was a little confusing. but if I have to add some item I would like to at least explain why it is now in the game rather than Cloud obtained ??? and now everything is different because you have ???.
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Alan Bates
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Could you use affection to GET an item?
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bustersword
May 18 2011, 07:10 PM
@ Anastar
I like you idea but I need some kind of item or if statement to start the alt. ending and as of now you can't use affection to make a whole plot shift so an item must be add to the game to start the new chain of events.

sorry if that was a little confusing. but if I have to add some item I would like to at least explain why it is now in the game rather than Cloud obtained ??? and now everything is different because you have ???.

Have Aerith give something to Cloud at a pivotal event, I'd say at the end of the Cloud/Aerith date if you want to make the mod more "optional" or after the whole "I'll come back when it's all over" sequence.
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Myko
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I think Seph should definitely kidnap Aerith immediately after stabbing her. Jenova will be the perfect distraction. Maybe there's something about Aerith's will being stuck in her body that Seph will be able to use to his advantage? IE stopping Holy.

And when they DO get her back, she's in a coma and may not make it out. So there's that guilt that they traded the entire world for a woman who's barely hanging onto life as it is. I know Tifa will have an emo fit about that, which would express how pessimistic she is.

Aerith can wake up after Cloud gets his memories together. Since she'll be on the verge of death, she can go into Cloud's consciousness and do all that. =D I know it'd be a little harder for her, but I know she has the intelligence to pull it off. That way she can figure out what happened to Zack, too.
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bustersword
May 19 2011, 02:10 AM
@ Anastar
I like you idea but I need some kind of item or if statement to start the alt. ending and as of now you can't use affection to make a whole plot shift so an item must be add to the game to start the new chain of events.

sorry if that was a little confusing. but if I have to add some item I would like to at least explain why it is now in the game rather than Cloud obtained ??? and now everything is different because you have ???.

Oh, sorry - I didn't realize you needed an item. :blush:

In that case, why not have Aerith hold it in her hands as she's summoning Holy? Maybe she had worn it on a necklace or pendant on her neck or something, but then removed it before she started to summon Holy and held it in her hands to protect her. Either that, or she carried it in the left breast pocket of her jacket. At any rate, it protects her from getting killed as she summons Holy.

IIRC, the Holy materia fell from her hair ribbon as Sephy stabbed her, so it would be a different item.

Cloud and/or Avalanche could find it on the ground after Sephy kidnaps her. If it's on a necklace or chain, maybe Cloud could wear it until they rescue her or something.
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What if the white materia she had helped her live as well as it's other purpose?
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asenk631
May 19 2011, 07:20 PM
What if the white materia she had helped her live as well as it's other purpose?

That's what I suggested, asenk... but bustersword says that he/she needs a separate item for it to work. Something to do with programming the mod.
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bustersword
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Um.. maybe I think about all those suggestions later.

Right now I need people the want to write the dialog for the higwind sence
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Ultimavara
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Hmm, well if you need more people, I wouldn't mind helping out, but I don't know if having too many people working on it would make it inconsistent, what with a lot of different writing styes coming into play. I do think you should take Alan Bates on for it, though. I really like the lines he came up with earlier in this thread.
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bustersword
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Agreed
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would you please write the script for the highwind scene. it would be greatly appreciated.
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Alan Bates
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Sure, I'll do it
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Alan Bates
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Crazy idea here...

Suppose the changes to the game all spun out of a single event. One of the biggest problems I had with the game was Tifa KNOWING Cloud's story didn't make sense, but going aong with it.

Now, suppose sometimes after Cloud tells his story in Kalm, or maybe after the group goes to Niebelham, we cut to a scene with Aeris and Tifa talking to each other, no Cloud around.

Tifa points out that Cloud doesn't make sense and he's been acting strange, where Aeris adds to that that she knows who he HAS been acting like. Which would lead the two to take actions to figure out what's going on and possibly have Cloud's lifestream scene far earlier in the game than originally.

I don't know how much of that would be possible, but I just wanted to throw it out there to see what people thought.
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Suppose the changes to the game all spun out of a single event. One of the biggest problems I had with the game was Tifa KNOWING Cloud's story didn't make sense, but going aong with it.

Now, suppose sometimes after Cloud tells his story in Kalm, or maybe after the group goes to Niebelham, we cut to a scene with Aeris and Tifa talking to each other, no Cloud around.

Tifa points out that Cloud doesn't make sense and he's been acting strange, where Aeris adds to that that she knows who he HAS been acting like. Which would lead the two to take actions to figure out what's going on and possibly have Cloud's lifestream scene far earlier in the game than originally.

I don't know how much of that would be possible, but I just wanted to throw it out there to see what people thought.

I think that's an interesting idea, Alan. It always bothered me that Tifa never spoke up earlier about it, too. Cloud even asks her about it one time in Junon, but Tifa changes the subject:

(Cloud and the others go to sleep. The screen is black.)
"...That reminds me."
"You again?"
"...Who are you?"
"...You'll find out soon. ......But more importantly, 5 years ago..."
"5 Years ago... Nibelheim?"
"When you went to Mt. Nibel then, Tifa was your guide, right?"
"Yeah.... I was surprised."
"But where was Tifa other than that?"
"...I dunno."
"It was a great place for you two to see each other again."
"...You're right."
"Why couldn't you see each other alone?"
"...I don't know. I can't remember clearly..."
"Why don't you try asking Tifa?"
"...Yeah."
"Then, get up!"
"Hey wake up. Wake up, Cloud!"
(The screen fades in to show Tifa standing in the room. Cloud gets out of bed)
Cloud "Tifa..."
"When Sephiroth and I went to Nibelheim, where were you?"
Tifa "...We saw each other, right?"
Cloud "The other time."
(She crosses her arms)
Tifa "No... it was 5 years ago. I don't remember."
"But, something seems strange outside. Cloud, come quick."
(They run outside.)


Cloud makes it clear that he wants to talk about it, so it looks like Tifa would bring it up again when they had a chance.

I like your idea of Tifa and Aerith talking about it, except that I don't think Cloud ever really acted like Zack at all. :no: Their memories were confused, but Cloud never showed Zack's charm or sense of humor, if you ask me.
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Alan Bates
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I realize that, but Aeris does mention his movements and manarisms are exactly like Zack's.
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Alan Bates
May 23 2011, 05:19 PM
I realize that, but Aeris does mention his movements and manarisms are exactly like Zack's.

True enough... she did say he walked and gestured like Zack. That's hard to tell in FFVII graphics, though. :lol: She also said they look alike. The hair style is the same, but the color is different. Other than that, they don't look much alike to me.

But you're right... she did say they acted the same. That's a shame - it just helps to feed the whole theory about how they are supposedly "alike" (when they're not, IMO).
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