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| Ff7 What If Or Alt End Mod; a mod for ff7 to get an alt end | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 16 2011, 03:15 AM (2,497 Views) | |
| bustersword | May 16 2011, 03:15 AM Post #1 |
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Ok, I am sorry if this is the wrong spot for this,but a while back I a link to a mod for ff7 that let Aerith not die. Well the mod just added Aerith where she wasn't but changed nothing in the game story wise. Well now I am going to make a mod in which Aerith doesn't die but some of the story is changed also (in a Clerith way), but I was woundering what you guys would like to see in the mod and also if anyone wanted to help write some of Aerith's new dialog. Thanks and I am sorry if I offended anyone with this mod. |
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| Alan Bates | May 16 2011, 04:01 AM Post #2 |
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That one guy
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Sounds like a fun little project. Before I start offering ideas, one thing I'd like to know is how are you going to go about keeping Aeris around? Having Cloud stop Sephiroth's attack? Having a subplot afterwards about bringing her back to life? Personally, I think it's rather important that you at least take her out of action for a while. Maybe Sephiroth is able to imprison her in an a enrgy field somehow or she gets hurt really bad, and the team has to leave her in the care of somebody for a while, or something to that affect. Regardlss if she is going to be with you again, one thing I think you definitely need is an airship scene with Aeris. |
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| aerithbunny | May 16 2011, 06:26 AM Post #3 |
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I'd say the second thing you said Alan would make more sense, but it's just a suggestion. |
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| Alan Bates | May 17 2011, 04:10 AM Post #4 |
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That one guy
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Regardless of what route you go, I'd be more than happy to help you write dialog for characters. |
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| Ultimavara | May 17 2011, 04:21 AM Post #5 |
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Come away, oh human child, to the waters and the wild.
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I agree that taking her out of the action for a while would be a good choice. Since the first disc originally ends with such a jolting scenario which propels and motivates you throughout the rest of the game, I think it would be important to keep that jolt and subsequent motivation in the rewrite. And I totally agree with having an airship scene with her. That would be great. |
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| Anastar | May 17 2011, 06:40 PM Post #6 |
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To touch the light I see in your eyes...
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I LOVE the idea of an airship scene with her! It'd be cool to have Aerith help Cloud during the Lifestream event instead of Tifa. Even if Aerith's not dead, she should be able to use the Lifestream to communicate with Cloud, just like Aerith used it to communicate with Elmyra. But then again, if Aerith's able to do that, then she should be able to communicate with Cloud while he's still in the hospital.
Yeah, that would make it easier, just because there'd be less to change. :lol: You wouldn't have to insert in scenes where she wasn't used before. It would probably be easiest to have Sephiroth injure Aerith at the Forgotten City instead of kill her. Then Cloud could still be all upset that Aerith was injured, and vow to go on to defeat Sephiroth because he injured Aerith. It'd also take her out of the action for awhile, and let her come back to save the day at the end of the game. According to FFVII, Holy didn't move because Sephiroth was blocking Aerith's will. Perhaps Sephiroth could still block her will while she's injured? Especially if she's in a coma or something? If Aerith's in a coma, her consciousness may still be alive in the Lifestream. Then she could talk to Cloud during the Lifestream event. She might still be able to communicate with the Cetra spirits in the Lifestream to help move the Lifestream to destroy Meteor. It could also be Aerith's consciousness who reaches her hand to Cloud at the end of the game. But this time, instead of not taking her hand, Cloud grasps her hand - and that's what brings her out of the coma. Then it leads to a kiss between them. |
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| Alan Bates | May 17 2011, 07:03 PM Post #7 |
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Idea. If you want to go this route... Have Sephiroth stil stab Aeris (so you get the cut scene still), but she survives, just barely and the group still isn't sure she'll pull through. She spends a few plot points bedridden with a chance she won't recover. When she does rejoin you, she still hasn't fully healed and it seems a portion of her Cetra abilities don't seem to be working anymore. She can't hear the planet and such. Essentially she had a near death experience and not all of her lifeforce came back with her. You could have these abilities come back into play later in the game when she's trying to reach out to Cloud in the lifestream. |
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| aerithbunny | May 17 2011, 08:33 PM Post #8 |
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My idea is have her die completely, but the planet brings her back to the church, Cloud starts hearing voices etc. in his sleep after a certain point and reaches the church to find her. |
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| Myko | May 17 2011, 08:57 PM Post #9 |
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Hopeless Romantic
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Hmm.... I think it would cheese it up too much if you had Aerith die and be brought back. =/ I say it'd be more realistic and heart wrenching if she were in a coma. Or... =3 You can have Sephiroth KIDNAP her. That would definitely propel Cloud forward, especially if Sephiroth HURT her AND kidnapped her at the same time. It'd be like "if I don't save her NOW she WILL die". I think it'd work, too, since Sephiroth would definitely want to prolong the pain. And then, at the end, she'll reach out to Cloud and drag him out of his subconscious. And then, when he reaches for it it doesn't turn into Tifa's hand. Instead it's just her's and he grasps onto it. I hope that made sense. I had too many ideas at one time. ^^; I'd be happy to write some dialogue too if I have the time. |
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| bustersword | May 17 2011, 11:20 PM Post #10 |
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Ok so i think i have a general idea of what is going to be in the mod 1. Sephiroth still stabs her but she doesn't die and they all escape *death since will be cut and that will end disk 1* 2.*start of disk 2* After resting one day in the forgotten city Sephiroth comes back and kidnaps Aerith and takes her to the northern crater.*Story will cont. like normal until you reach the northern crater* 3. Instead of being controlled by Sephiroth, Cloud gives the black materia to Sephiroth in exchange for aerith back.*cloud then falls into the lifestream things cont. like normal* 4. Instead of looking for Cloud the team takes Aerith to the doc. in that town and also find Cloud there.*things cont. like normal* 5. Aerith and or Tifa will be the one to help get Clouds memories back * I want to leave Tifa because she is the one that (barely) knew Cloud as a kid, but in MoTP (which I believe is cannon) says Tifa was only able to because of Aerith protection and since she isn't dead she can't give Tifa the protection. So I am still going back and forth on this. 6.Aerith will replace Tifa in the highwind scene 7. Cloud will KISS Aerith at the end of the game now the script I want done first is the highwind scene so suggest away |
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| Alan Bates | May 17 2011, 11:48 PM Post #11 |
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I don't want this to be the whole scene, but at some point I'd like to include a little reference to one of the later bits of the compilation that didn't make sense. Aeris: In Midgar, you didn't get to see the sky that much. To tell the truth, when I was younger, I was actually afraid of the sky. I was afraid it would suck me up into it. Cloud: that's... kind of dumb. (pause. Aeris lowers her head a bit, maybe takes a few steps around around.) Aeris: HAHAHA it is isn't it? Cloud: HAHAHA yeah, afraid of the sky? Aeris: "Oh we can go across country and save the world, as long as I don't have to go outside!" HA HA HA Cloud: You wouldn't have been able to get me to carry an umbrella over the head the whole trip. Aeris: I wouldn't? Oh I think I could have convinced you. (Aeris does that little bend at the waist leaning things she does) I'm pretty sure. |
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| yin-chan | May 18 2011, 01:47 AM Post #12 |
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*dreamchaser*
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This sounds like a really cool project! For the dialogue, please try to stick to Aerith's sassier side, like in the start of FF7 when Cloud said "How could I ask you to come along when I knew it would be dangerous" and Aerith is all "Are you done." I love that side of Aerith! I love how she manages to convince Cloud to do things like cross-dressing and all - she has a real way with words. I'd love to help with dialogue too, if I have time. :) |
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| Materia Thief | May 18 2011, 02:28 AM Post #13 |
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yet again, today I loved you
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This is a really cute idea, I think! : ) I definitely feel you should stick with Aerith's sassier side, but do realize that you will have to fix some very big plot holes if Aerith doesn't die--particularly what happens at the end with Holy/Meteor/the Lifestream all converging. As well, how will you explain Aerith not dying from her stab wound? She would definitely need immediate medical attention and would be out of commission for a long time, so how would they handle that? I do like your decision to keep Tifa, as I feel Tifa, as a character, benefits from the Lifestream scene as much as Cloud does. |
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| bustersword | May 18 2011, 03:16 AM Post #14 |
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@ Materia Thief Aerith will not die because she you will get an item in Aerith moms home called Phoenix elixir which was given to Aerith's current mom by her late mother, but she will be unusable until after the lifestream event. * She will be taken by Sephiroth and then still unable to battle until that time* Also the ending with the lifestream coming out of the earth will be untouched but holy won't work because he interrupted it when he stabs Aerith. Also, I will tie some of the compilation up with this mod |
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| Anastar | May 18 2011, 08:20 PM Post #15 |
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To touch the light I see in your eyes...
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Some great ideas there, bustersword. I like it! ![]() I like the idea of Sephiroth kidnapping Aerith and Cloud trading the Black Materia for her. I'm not sure I buy Sephiroth coming back the next day to kidnap Aerith, though. Wouldn't he do it as soon as he realizes she's not dead, which he would realize right after the stabbing? I mean, the fight with Jenova happens after Aerith dies, so it's not like Sephy disappears immediately after he stabs her.
Wouldn't it just be easier to say that Holy protects the person who summons it from death at the time of summoning? That person can be injured, but cannot die because Aerith's will is needed to activate it. That's pretty close to the original, because Holy didn't move until Cloud killed Sephiroth again. It couldn't move because Sephiroth was blocking it: Cloud "Thank you... Aerith." "Aerith's voice has already reached the Planet. Just look at the glow of the White Materia." "But...... how about Holy? How come Holy isn't moving?" (He shakes his head.) Cloud "Why?" Bugenhagen "Something's getting in its way." Cloud "......Him......" "He's the only one that could do it." "...Sephiroth. Where are you?" You could say that Holy's not moving because he's blocking Aerith's will. If she's unconscious (or in a coma) after he stabs her, then she may still not be able to use her will. |
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