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"cloud Doesn't Accept Aerith's Date Offer" O_0
Topic Started: Jan 25 2011, 08:47 PM (896 Views)
Jon Snow
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Yeah.... totally. :rolleyes:


Discuss.

Because, I myself, am beyond annoyed by Clotis saying Cloud doesn't accept her date offer.

um, first off all, he's the one that says "it'll cost you" meaning Cloud DOES want some kind of payment. Aerith, being the spunky girl she is, offered a date for her payment, to which Cloud nods and immediately starts to protect her. I'm not sure how much clearer this could get.

If anyone has any more evidence to support the fact that Cloud does accept her date, please, post it here. Let's put this crappy argument to rest once and for all.
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Darkeliel
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I think that the fact that he continues to follow her to her house, is a proof, if he didn't want to be her bodyguard why did he do that?

He also repeat his state of being her bodyguard in shinra's jail, so he accepts the date as a payement...
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Jan 25 2011, 08:56 PM
I think that the fact that he continues to follow her to her house, is a proof, if he didn't want to be her bodyguard why did he do that?

He also repeat his state of being her bodyguard in shinra's jail, so he accepts the date as a payement...

Exactly. If he didn't accept that as payment, he probably would've just walked off. :rolleyes: Or at least said: Sorry, I only accept gil.
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Jan 25 2011, 04:56 PM
I think that the fact that he continues to follow her to her house, is a proof, if he didn't want to be her bodyguard why did he do that?

He also repeat his state of being her bodyguard in shinra's jail, so he accepts the date as a payement...

(I was actually told this before,)

*takes role of Cloti*
Just because he continues to protect her doesn't mean he accepted her date, though.
*leaves role of being Cloti*

See what they'd say? <_<

I understand what you're saying and I agree. I think the fact that Cloud continues to act as her bodyguard and mentions it more than once is more than enough to prove he accepted her date. But for Clotis, it's obviously not enough.

Clotis will always say "but Cloud doesn't say he accepts her date" I want a way to stop this argument.

PianoxLullaby, good point about Cloud would have just walked away or said "only gil". But, do you think that would stop a Clotis argument about this? Again, I think it's more than enough to prove it, but is it enough to get Clotis to admit it?
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but Cloud doesn't say he accepts her date


For them the fact that Aerith is the easier date to get doesn't mean a thing? I mean, Cloud just protect Aerith, he doesn't protect Yuffie for example...
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Jan 25 2011, 05:24 PM
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but Cloud doesn't say he accepts her date


For them the fact that Aerith is the easier date to get doesn't mean a thing? I mean, Cloud just protect Aerith, he doesn't protect Yuffie for example...

Good, good, that's a great counter argument. You're completely right. Cloud's seen only protecting Aerith, not Yuffie or anyone else. Just Aerith. Why? If he wasn't her bodyguard he wouldn't do that.

And you brought up another GREAT detail. That Aerith's date is easiest because she promised Cloud a date.

But once again, Clotis would just say; "that still doesn't mean Cloud accepted the date"
But keep it up!
:P
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What I don't understand is that clotis said that cloud doesn't accept to be Aerith's bodygard while he called himself "bodyguard" and while Aerith told him that it was for one date, just look at the scene :

Aerith
"I knew that Cloud would come for me."

Cloud
"Hey, I'm your bodyguard, right?"

(She walks to the door of her cell.)

Aerith
"The deal was for one date, right?"

Tifa
"............oh, I get it."

Tifa is obviously jalouse, if Cloud loved Tifa and no Aerith, he just could reassure Tifa by saying something like "don't worry I never accepted that date, I just wanna help her", but he doesn't say such a thing !
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Jan 25 2011, 05:54 PM
What I don't understand is that clotis said that cloud doesn't accept to be Aerith's bodygard while he called himself "bodyguard" and while Aerith told him that it was for one date, just look at the scene :

Aerith
        "I knew that Cloud would come for me."

Cloud
        "Hey, I'm your bodyguard, right?"

(She walks to the door of her cell.)

Aerith
    "The deal was for one date, right?"

Tifa
        "............oh, I get it."

Tifa is obviously jalouse, if Cloud loved Tifa and no Aerith, he just could reassure Tifa by saying something like "don't worry I never accepted that date, I just wanna help her", but he doesn't say such a thing !

Oh! That's a really good point, too! Great job. And it's true, to think Cloud would have said to Tifa that he didn't accept her date or something, but he didn't! And this is a really really good point.

Okay, but what if a Cloti said to you, "Cloud was quite about the date part, he didn't say anything and that means he still didn't want the date" got a counter for that?
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"Cloud was quite about the date part, he didn't say anything and that means he still didn't want the date"


At this part of the game, Cloud is really rude with the others :

Barret
"The planet's full of Mako energy. People here use it
every day."
"It's the life blood of the planet. But Shinra keeps suckin' the
blood out with these machines."

Cloud
"I'm not here for a lecture. Let's just hurry."

(...)

Barret
"Little by little the reactors'll drain out all the life. And
that'll be that."

Cloud
"It's not my problem."

Barret
"The planet's dyin', Cloud!"

Cloud
"The only thing I care about is finishin' this job before
security and the Roboguards come."

(...)

Tifa
"You know, I'm relieved you made it back safely."

Cloud
"What's with you all of a sudden? That wasn't even a tough job."

Tifa
"I guess not..."
"You were in SOLDIER."

(Cloud sets down his drink.)

Tifa
"Make sure you get your pay from Barret."

Cloud
"Don't worry. Once I get that money, I'm outta here."

(...)

Barret
"Tifa! Let him go!"
"Looks like he still misses the Shinra!"

Cloud
"Shut up!"
"I don't care about either Shinra or SOLDIER!"
"But don't get me wrong!"
"I don't care about AVALANCHE or the Planet for that matter!"

Tifa
"Listen, Cloud. I'm asking you. Please join us."

Cloud
"Sorry Tifa..."

Tifa
"The Planet is dying. Slowly but surely it's dying."
"Someone has to do something."

Cloud
"So let Barret and his buddies do something about it."
"It's got nothin' to do with me."

(...)

Tifa
"You remember now? ...Our promise?"

Cloud
"I'm not a hero and I'm not famous. I can't keep.... the promise."

Tifa
"But you got your childhood dream, didn't you? You joined SOLDIER."

(Cloud looks down.)

Tifa
"So come on! You've got to keep your promise......"

(Barret climbs up the elevator.)

Barret
"Wait a sec big-time SOLDIER!"
"A promise is a promise! Here!!"

(He tosses Cloud 1500 Gil.)

Cloud
"This is my pay? Don't make me laugh."

Tifa
"What? Then you'll...!!"

Cloud
"You got the next mission lined up? I'll do it for 3000."

(...)

Aerith
"Well, that's... nice."
"Let's see, Sector 7? I'll show you
the way."

Cloud
"You gotta be kidding. Why do
you want to put yourself in danger
again?"

Aerith
"I'm used to it."

Cloud
"Used to it!?"
"....Well, don't know... getting
help from a girl..."


And so on... So I really doubt that Cloud would said nothing if he doesn't agree with her, he will said something like 'hey wait a moment ! I never say I agree with that!", Cloud it's not the type of guy to shut his mouth, he is too arrogant for this...
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^That. Plus the affirmative nod after Aerith says "One date."

Also, "Hey, Im your bodyguard, right?" He says, knowing full well the payment is one date and never bringing up another form of payment.

I rest my case. >w>

(Srsly, I cant believe anyone could question the whole idea that Cloud was fine w/ the date as payment... >.>)
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Jan 25 2011, 06:43 PM
^That. Plus the affirmative nod after Aerith says "One date."

Also, "Hey, Im your bodyguard, right?" He says, knowing full well the payment is one date and never bringing up another form of payment.

I rest my case. >w>

(Srsly, I cant believe anyone could question the whole idea that Cloud was fine w/ the date as payment... >.>)

Oh, that's another excellent point, too! You're right. If Cloud didn't accept Aerith's date as payment, to think he would have said she had to figure out another way to pay him back. Wonder why he didn't? He must have liked the date as payment.

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And so on... So I really doubt that Cloud would said nothing if he doesn't agree with her, he will said something like 'hey wait a moment ! I never say I agree with that!", Cloud it's not the type of guy to shut his mouth, he is too arrogant for this...

This is true too.
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Wonder why he didn't? He must have liked the date as payment.


Of course he did ^^ Remember what cloud line in dismantled are saying :

Here I met a flower girl.
She’s a girl with impressive eyes. She’s around my age, or elder by one or two years. But the innocent radiance in her eyes simply makes her suddenly look younger.
Unexpectedly, I came to think of the color of my eyes. Bathed in Mako energy, they shine a pale light, and this is what labels me a SOLDIER. For me, it’s the mark of my enemy, Shinra, so I desperately want to erase it.
“Excuse me, what happened?”
She asked me the question, and then I bought a flower from her, which is rare in Midgar.
Maybe she’s pleased that the flower was sold, because the worried look on her face had vanished. If this smile costs only one gil, it is a good purchase.

Cloud seems to have a crush on Aerith the first time they meet, after that he is more outgoing with her than with any of his compagnions, he always talked about money, and now he accept a date for nothing? He always didn't care about everything and now he asked some questions about Aerith's life :

Aerith
"Ha, ha..... They're looking for me again."

Cloud
"You mean it's not the first time
they've been after you?"

Aerith
"...no."

(...)

Aerith
"Just the same as him."

Cloud
"The same as who?"

Aerith
"My first boyfriend."

Cloud
"You were... serious?"

Aerith
"No. But I liked him for a while."

Cloud
"I probably knew him. What was his name?"

(Aerith shakes her head.)

Aerith
"It doesn't really matter."

Just look here, he is supposed to came back to tifa's bar, but he take the time to talk with Aerith and about her first love ! Cloud was always so cold with everyone and he laughs with Aerith? Cloud wanted to keep himself far from the shinra but he doesn't hesitate to risk his life and liberty just to save her girl he met few days ago? I mean, it's just obvious that cloud likes Aerith more than any other girl
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Lol yeah, I've heard that one before. Apparently he didn't get upset when she died either.... :D
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Jan 25 2011, 08:51 PM
Lol yeah, I've heard that one before. Apparently he didn't get upset when she died either.... :D

Oh, yes. Let's not forget that one :rolleyes:
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AND let's not FORGET! Cloud was only supposed to be Aerith's bodyguard for the part OF TAKING HER HOME.

BUT! As they are captured by Shinra, Cloud mentions; "Hey, I'm your bodyguard right?" :cloud:

YEAH!! Cloud didnt want her date offer, as if CloTis! So I'm thinking, Cloud, himself WANTED, I mean WANTED to be her bodyguard. The way he talks to her is even different.

And I dont know if this is accurate, but it is Aerith that made him care about the planet right? (and to settle things with Sephiroth) :D
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