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About The Highwind Scene
Topic Started: Jan 6 2011, 10:29 PM (626 Views)
Darkeliel
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I was reading the forum and the ff7 dismantled translation by Chibica (thanks so much *o*) and I read this :

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EDIT - Chibica: This was a rough translation from the FFVII Ultimania Omega that you gave us in the New DF forum:

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This was confirmed by ??? in the Final Fantasy VII Ultimania Omega:

--The saying that “Cloud and Tifa makes clear about their feelings to each other in Lifestream” means Tifa finally got to know Cloud used to have good feeling for her and did went to her side when she was badly hurt. She also realized that the reason why Cloud wanted to be a SOLDIER is partly because he wanted to prove himself to her. In Cloud’s part, he finally got to know Tifa used to search for him and even now likes him a lot. Therefore, they’re not confirming a “mutual love,” they just verified what they thought about one another in the past, and at present.

--The whole “risqué” conversation is specifically marked out as optional. SE might milk it too much by different sayings but still, the writer carefully footnoted it with an optional choice(the date mechanism).


So I wonder is this quote official? Because if it's official it will be a great news ^o^
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Quexinos
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I THINK I know what she's talking about. For the first one I have those translated:

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When Tifa bared serious injuries, Cloud rushed to rescue her just like he promised 7 years ago at the Water Tower. When Tifa learns the truth, her voice sounds deeply moved.

Deep inside Cloud's heart, feelings were hidden that no one knew about. Even though there were important memories to himself, many of them were forgotten. In the process of looking for the real Cloud, Tifa learned a lesson about the complexity of the human heart, and the feelings were earnestly transmitted.(page 27)


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Even though Cloud was holding feelings for Tifa from some time ago, Tifa's interest in Cloud did not start until the time when the promised was exchanged. It might have been her loneliness due to her surrounding friends leaving one after another, but more than that, it seems largely in part to him making the promise to become her hero.

By the way, Tifa did not realize that Cloud was holding feelings for her until he informed her in the Lifestream. Even though she was called and it was just the two of them, she can be quite clueless. (page 25)


no idea what the footnote thing is about though. It anyone has a page number, I can check it out.
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Darkeliel

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I was reading the forum and the ff7 dismantled translation by Chibica (thanks so much *o*) and I read this :

Quote:
 
EDIT - Chibica: This was a rough translation from the FFVII Ultimania Omega that you gave us in the New DF forum:

QUOTE
This was confirmed by ??? in the Final Fantasy VII Ultimania Omega:

--The saying that “Cloud and Tifa makes clear about their feelings to each other in Lifestream” means Tifa finally got to know Cloud used to have good feeling for her and did went to her side when she was badly hurt. She also realized that the reason why Cloud wanted to be a SOLDIER is partly because he wanted to prove himself to her. In Cloud’s part, he finally got to know Tifa used to search for him and even now likes him a lot. Therefore, they’re not confirming a “mutual love,” they just verified what they thought about one another in the past, and at present.

--The whole “risqué” conversation is specifically marked out as optional. SE might milk it too much by different sayings but still, the writer carefully footnoted it with an optional choice(the date mechanism).


So I wonder is this quote official? Because if it's official it will be a great news ^o^

Okay... first I have to say that I'm a bit confused because the title of this thread is "About the Highwind Scene". But the quote you gave is about the Lifestream Event and the Highwind Scene. So which part are you wondering about? :unsure:

At any rate, this part:

--The whole “risqué” conversation is specifically marked out as optional. SE might milk it too much by different sayings but still, the writer carefully footnoted it with an optional choice(the date mechanism).

is about the Highwind Scene. And yes, it's official that the "risque" part is optional.

As for this part:

--The saying that “Cloud and Tifa makes clear about their feelings to each other in Lifestream” means Tifa finally got to know Cloud used to have good feeling for her and did went to her side when she was badly hurt. She also realized that the reason why Cloud wanted to be a SOLDIER is partly because he wanted to prove himself to her. In Cloud’s part, he finally got to know Tifa used to search for him and even now likes him a lot. Therefore, they’re not confirming a “mutual love,” they just verified what they thought about one another in the past, and at present.

That's about the Lifestream event. It sounds more like Chibica's opinion to me, rather than an official quote - but I *do* agree with her opinion there. At no time does Cloud say that he *currently* loves Tifa during the Lifestream event. He lets her know that he *used* to have a crush on her as a child, but he never says that he currently loves her during the Lifestream event. :no: For that matter, Tifa never says she currently loves Cloud during the Lifestream event, either.

Quexinos

The quotes you gave are about both the Lifestream event and the Promise scene, so I'm not sure those are the quote Chibica was referring to. :dunno: At any rate, this one:

When Tifa bared serious injuries, Cloud rushed to rescue her just like he promised 7 years ago at the Water Tower. When Tifa learns the truth, her voice sounds deeply moved.

is talking about the Lifestream event. The first paragraph is talking about Tifa learning that Cloud tried to rescue her as she fell from the bridge. She'd never known about that before, so she was deeply moved by it. The bit about:

Deep inside Cloud's heart, feelings were hidden that no one knew about. Even though there were important memories to himself, many of them were forgotten.

is also talking about the Lifestream event, but it doesn't say anything about Cloud and Tifa "confirming mutual feelings". Cloud had several feelings hidden in his heart that no one knew about, and those memories were important to him. One, Tifa's father accused Cloud of taking Tifa there and blamed Cloud for Tifa falling. Cloud was obviously hurt and embarrassed by that accusation. For another thing, Cloud failed to rescue Tifa, so he felt guilty about that.

As for the other quote you gave:

By the way, Tifa did not realize that Cloud was holding feelings for her until he informed her in the Lifestream. Even though she was called and it was just the two of them, she can be quite clueless.

The first sentence is talking about the Lifestream event, but the only feelings that Cloud informed her about during the Lifestream event is that he used to have a crush on her, that he felt bad about not being included in her group of friends, that he was hurt by her father's accusations about taking her to the cliff, and that he felt guilty about not rescuing her at the bridge.

The second sentence is actually talking about the Promise Scene. We know that because it says that "Tifa was called out". Cloud called Tifa out to the well, but he never called her at the beginning of the Lifestream event. In actual fact, Tifa called out to Cloud at the beginning of the Lifestream event, not vice versa. So the second sentence is talking about how Tifa was clueless to Cloud's crush on her as a child at the time of the Promise scene.

Quexinos
 
no idea what the footnote thing is about though. It anyone has a page number, I can check it out.

All I see is where the part Darkeliel quoted came from:

http://z8.invisionfree.com/Cloud_x_Aerith/...0#entry11662523

But I don't see anything about a page number for the footnote in my post or Chibica's answer. Not sure what the "New DF forum" means.
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Quexinos
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The quotes you gave are about both the Lifestream event and the Promise scene, so I'm not sure those are the quote Chibica was referring to. :dunno:


Yes, but that was in response to
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The saying that “Cloud and Tifa makes clear about their feelings to each other in Lifestream” means Tifa finally got to know Cloud used to have good feeling for her and did went to her side when she was badly hurt. She also realized that the reason why Cloud wanted to be a SOLDIER is partly because he wanted to prove himself to her. In Cloud’s part, he finally got to know Tifa used to search for him and even now likes him a lot. Therefore, they’re not confirming a “mutual love,” they just verified what they thought about one another in the past, and at present.


I was just posting the quotes she was referencing.

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But I don't see anything about a page number for the footnote in my post or Chibica's answer. Not sure what the "New DF forum" means.

New Destiny Fulfilled forum was what I thought of :dunno:

I kinda do remember a page in the UO that talks about all the dates in detail and then talks about how the affection values effect other scenes including the Highwind Scene... and that's probably what Chibica was talking about.
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Thanks for you fast reply ^o^

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I'm a bit confused because the title of this thread is "About the Highwind Scene". But the quote you gave is about the Lifestream Event and the Highwind Scene. So which part are you wondering about? unsure.gif


Yeah, I know it's for both scenes because for me the highwind scene relate the lifestream event, it's what I mean when I wrote "about highwind scene".


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It sounds more like Chibica's opinion to me, rather than an official quote - but I *do* agree with her opinion there. At no time does Cloud say that he *currently* loves Tifa during the Lifestream event. He lets her know that he *used* to have a crush on her as a child, but he never says that he currently loves her during the Lifestream event. no.gif For that matter, Tifa never says she currently loves Cloud during the Lifestream event, either.


It's my opinion too, but it sounds really like an official quote to me x) I add that Tifa can't confess her love to Cloud because it's written on the ff7 manual (on tifa's profile) and furthermore her name says it too "lock heart" (I doubt it was concerning cloud's past because she helps him with that so her heart is not so locked about it).

Anyway thanks a lot but I'm a bit sad that this quote is not official =/
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