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| Jon Snow | Jul 2 2010, 09:46 PM Post #1 |
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khaleesi ♥
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I just want to know, is there any specific quote stating which HW scene is default? Like how Aerith's date is the default date. Just wanting to know. |
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| Anastar | Jul 2 2010, 10:33 PM Post #2 |
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No, there's not. Cloti's *claim* that there's indications that there's a default version, but in reality, it's never been stated. For example, in the 20th Anniversary Ultimania, there's a section where the script of the game is shown. For the Highwind scene, *only* the High Affection version is shown. For the Date scene and other optional scenes, all versions are shown. Since only the High Affection version is shown, Cloti's claim that means the High Affection version is default. |
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| Jon Snow | Jul 2 2010, 10:59 PM Post #3 |
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Ahh, I see. But there's nothing that says HA of the HW scene is default? Great.
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| Quexinos | Jul 3 2010, 04:56 AM Post #4 |
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Wait.. what? |
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| Anastar | Jul 3 2010, 01:28 PM Post #5 |
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Yes, Aerith's date is default. SE stated that if you play Disk One normally, you'll get Aerith's date. In Aerith’s case, if you play the game normally, the partner that generally comes will be Aerith. ~FFVII Dismantled I don't see a page number, but the translation and a scan of the page are here: FFVII Dismantled Translations
Nope. There's no actual statement saying that. |
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| Quexinos | Jul 3 2010, 03:12 PM Post #6 |
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Oh that one, I forgot about that.... although I always feel weird when I see "play the game normally..." it makes me feel abnormal because I can get Yuffie's date so easily these days. |
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| Jon Snow | Jul 3 2010, 03:50 PM Post #7 |
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Thanks so much for posting that Aly. Q, there's lots more that prove she's default, too. ;) Not sure if I can do this, but, can I ask if Q knows a quote that proves which HW scene is default? After all, she is a Cloud/Tifa supporter and she should know. C: |
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| Quexinos | Jul 4 2010, 05:07 AM Post #8 |
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You know I wrote up a long post about that on another forum, I'll send it to you, okay? I won't post it though for obvious reasons
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| Anastar | Jul 5 2010, 05:39 PM Post #9 |
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I'd like to hear a simple "yes" or "no" and see the quote if she thinks there is such a quote. As far as I know, there is no such quote. We're not talking about what Cloti people think *indicates* or *suggests* that the HA scene is default. We want to know if SE has actually stated it, like they have for the Clerith Date scene. What we *don't* want to see here is Cloti defended, people arguing in favor of it, and people arguing against Clerith. Citing a source isn't really the same thing.
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| Jon Snow | Jul 5 2010, 07:34 PM Post #10 |
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Well, she PMed me and I'll just tell you the gist of it. She said that no, there isn't an exact quote that says it but since all that's ever used is quotes from the *high affection* HW scene they think *that* indicates that the default version *is* the high affection one. I'm not too sure where I stand with it, though. For me, it's not good enough. But, whatever. |
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| Quexinos | Jul 5 2010, 08:05 PM Post #11 |
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That's ... yeah... not what I said ... maybe I phrased it wrong, so Anastar ,and the others, lemme ask you this really quick. If in the next Ultimania in Cloud's profile it said, "Cloud and Aerith went on a date at the Gold Saucer." Would you consider that canon? |
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| Jon Snow | Jul 5 2010, 08:22 PM Post #12 |
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Well, you seemed to explain it that way; I'll post your PM it doesn't really say anything pro cloti so;
You basically said that. |
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| Anastar | Jul 5 2010, 11:02 PM Post #13 |
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No, because I'd know that Cloud could still go out with Barret, Yuffie, or Tifa. I've yet to see anything about the HW scene saying that they expressed their love to one another, either. I've seen it said that they can express their feelings to each other, but not what feelings. I've also seen that their feelings match, but that could mean that they've decided it's best to be friends. The closest thing to saying that they expressed their love for one another is the thing Cloti's were crowing about here: The LT Debate Is Over, since it says "For the one I love..." at the top of the page. However, what detracts from that is the FACT that there's a page link provided at the top of the HW scene picture where it says there's two optional versions of the scene. It was already stated in the FFVII UO that only one of those versions is meaningful, and that one version is "apathetic". Therefore, it is only *possible* for them to agree that their feelings match. Since there are two optional versions, and one version is apathetic, then it's also possible for them to NOT confirm their feelings for one another. Sorry, but nothing's been proven as canon and it's time Lifestream.net retracted their claim that Cloti's canon. That's completely false. |
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| Jon Snow | Jul 6 2010, 12:25 AM Post #14 |
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Really? I didn't know that! So that same page they claim canonized Cloti literally pointed the reader to a page that clearly states there are two optional scenes? Quick question, does it do the same for the date?
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| Quexinos | Jul 6 2010, 02:23 AM Post #15 |
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Well good then, I can see why you don't see why those other quotes make the HA version canon then. See honestly, if I saw something like that in Cloud's profile, I'd consider Aerith's date canon, but TBH I already do consider that canon.
Do you mean that they may have shared feelings in the low affection version as well? Just not matching ones? Sorry if I'm bugging you, I'm just trying to understand your argument ![]()
Yes it talks about all 4 date scenes.
They may have been a bit harsh with their article but asking them to retract something they believe so strongly in is the same as asking you to remove something from your site. And I mean hardly anyone cares about it anymore anyway. It'd probably just stir up trouble again at this point. Besides, you and I both know it's not going to happen, but maybe an article at least addressing what's on the other page or an extension of the current one discussing that quote... that might at least even things out a bit. hint hint |
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