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| Shiva | Jun 2 2010, 01:59 PM Post #31 |
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I have enjoyed XIII for the most part. But, the areas get boring really quickly. I mean, I can only run down hallways for so long. <_< Also, I agree that it has been WAY too linear. I am near the end of the game and I feel like I only got to see a small portion of Cocoon and Pulse. And, as for doing missions after the story is already over... what's the point? It's not like I'm levelling up for an upcoming boss fight.Oh, I LOVED FFX! It's my second favorite FF game! I didn't really think FFX was super-linear. I felt as though I was able to branch out and do side-quests a lot during the game. It could be linear at times, but not like XIII is. Ugh. I agree. <_< X-2 has 3 redeeming qualities to it: 1. Shuyin and Lenne-- their story made it worthwhile, IMO. 2. Tidus can return (if you get the "Good" or "Perfect" ending). 3. The job spheres were cool. Other than that, it was crap. Yeah, that worries me, too. If they would just stick to the original story, not change any of its original elements and not add stupid offshoot characters, it would be cool as hell. As it stands, I no longer trust them to stick to original canon because the Compilation is so full of retcons and BS. Yeah, that would really piss me off. Nomura would turn Sephiroth into the victim and make Genesis the "real bad guy". I would have to boycott FF if that happened.
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| CookieMonsterLove | Jun 2 2010, 01:59 PM Post #32 |
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I'd support a remake. For these reasons: 1. It's the actual game with the actual story. 2. They concentrated on other stuff rather that spending all those time with the graphics. 3. They still let us name the characters. Those pics were epic! And I really don't care about XIII, my friend said its good, but... I didn't bothered to try.... |
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| Kaldea | Jun 2 2010, 02:10 PM Post #33 |
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I agree with the first part, but the game never made me want to see more. It was so incredibly shallow that I had absolutely no love for any setting of that game, besides the "giant field". I personally finished the game about 80%. All I left were a few hunts, weapons and I couldn't bring myself to redo the final boss. But I did max everyone out. Biggest waste of time ever in my gamer life. As a perfectionist, the last little bit bothers me, but I doubt I will ever put the game back into my PS3. Perfect example of how the fandom has become one of the worst fandoms in gaming history because it only proves that people will buy any piece of crap if the name "Final Fantasy" is stamped on it because that game is the exact opposite of what made FF special in the past. You know, I could rant about this game all day. I might as well start an anti-FFXIII thread.
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| Rini Mazaki | Jun 2 2010, 02:35 PM Post #34 |
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That and the character development bothered me too. I hate Snow's guts like you have no idea. *wanted to throw him off a cliff* Dx Hope is the only character that I actually liked and Sazh, but that's it. The others didn't stick well to me and I didn't like their developments much. I don't know. Something about XIII ticks me off. Maybe I had high expectations for it or something?
So is mine! X was the second game that I played in the FF franchise and I loved it. I've played it a few times and I never get tired of it.
The dress spheres were awesome even if some were made for fan service. xD; But Shuyin and Lenne's story was nice and it made feel sorry for them. And maybe Tidus return was a good thing, but I still think it would have been better if he stayed non-existant? I like Tidus and all, but I thought his sacrifice in the end of X was beautiful and if you bring him back, then I feel like the sacrifice was cheap or something like that. Why not bring back Jecht too? He technically wasn't real, either.
And lots of contradictions even the end of CC was a contradiction in itself until the U20 profile came out explaining that Aerith didn't know Zack died because I kept getting the BS in roleplays on LJ that Aerith should have known that Zack died and whenever I dissagree on it, then they would complain to the mods that I was OOC. Thank god that profile came out because I had a feeling that was the case. *will never play a denial Aerith unless it's CC or baby Aerith* In Crisis Core, Sephiroth is all ready the victim because he didn't go insane on his own like in the original game. He went insane after Genesis spoke to him and he started to attack Zack and all. I thought it was BS. I wouldn't be surprise if Normura would add that in VII. Sometimes it seems like he made Genesis just like this lady made Twilight from their own little daydreams and add themselves into the story or something. [No offense to those that like Twilight]
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| Quexinos | Jun 3 2010, 05:21 AM Post #35 |
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WOO HOO!
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Heh, you consider that a redeeming quality? I hated that guy. I liked him alright on my first playthrough but then he just got obnoxious. What I would put in place of your 2 is the Bevele Cloisters. Those were hella fun. No cutscenes (okay like 10 second ones maybe) and non stop just PLAY. That's what I do when I buy a game. I want to PLAY it, not WATCH it. That's why I loved that part so much. And I still remember the first time I beat an Elder Drake ![]() I did enjoy X though. Was my first FF actually ![]() OH yeah I remember my BF at the time was pissed that I beat Gold Omega before he did and didn't talk to me for a day ![]() what a guy |
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| Shiva | Jun 3 2010, 01:06 PM Post #36 |
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I know a lot of people didn't like Tidus, but I did. He did whine some, but he was very supportive of Yuna and they adored each other. So, to see him come back and make Yuna so happy was a great ending. The Cloisters were fun, too. But, not enough to redeem a game of that quality, IMO. |
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| Hikari Seishin | Jun 3 2010, 04:06 PM Post #37 |
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So, cuz I genuinally have no clue, is it generally agreed that FFXIII, whilst having pretty graphics, was kinda devoid of good characters and a plot or what? ._. Buuut yeah, I agree, Im sick of SE mentioning re-making FFVII and then say "but we cant cuz of this this and this.....................................but we'll keep it in mind" OTL If you're gonna keep going on about it, then /make the bloody thing/, a load of people including myself can pretend it doesnt exist ...........oh wait, SE love to advertise the simple /concept/ of an FFVII remake, the amount of publicity there'd be if they actually /made/ the bloody thing.... *doesnt want to think about it* |
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| Beatrix | Jun 3 2010, 05:16 PM Post #38 |
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I agree... except for the cloisters. Bevelle was a pain... well, I never liked the cloisters for some reason (they're short, sometimes too easy, sometimes annoying... I still like the Zanarkand and Macalania's ones). Maybe because it didn't feel like playing a Final Fantasy. FF10 was pretty weird for me. Playing FF10 when you've played FF7/8/9 before does feel like a new experience. I won't say I liked FF10 the first time. I guess I felt confused. Then I thought the game was boring and that it had many flaws... I didn't touch this game for some time. But a few months before, I felt like playing games to finish them completely (something I usually hardly think about... I'm more interested in the story/characters/world, I'm not a typical hardcore gamer). I was just focusing on FF10's gameplay and quests... but then, something unexpected happened. I cried during the Macalania's scene between Tidus and Yuna (not because of the kiss but the talking). It never happened to me before... crying during this scene (even if it always has been a bittersweet scene). This is why I frown even more at (or laugh at) people who think video games can't never be art... or the ones who think video games stories/characters aren't able to make you cry yet (I read that somewhere recently... I was like "Hey, mister, you need to REALLY play some games before saying this sort of thing."). The proof is : I ended up crying during one scene (and I played FF10 3 or 4 times before) when I really didn't expect it. I don't agree entirely with Tidus coming back. Sure, as a character alone, he was pretty irritating... but his affection for Yuna made him likable and touching at times (except for that laughing scene, their scenes were mostly touching and/or adorable... and really, if I think about it... Tidus isn't exactly this arrogant, superficial and whiny sport player I first thought he was... he had some funny and/or sarcastic lines, he had the right to be mad at Auron *but he still acted like a petulant child, I won't deny it* or to cry at the end of the game and he wasn't that superficial or selfish if we really listen to his monologues. He still had moronic moments and I still don't really like his english voice actor (serious Tidus was fine, really... but the laughing/yelling... oy... my ears still remember the pain). Sometimes, I think he is a mix between younger Auron and Jecht... Auron is freaking awesome but his younger self was more optimistic and naive. Jecht is a moron like Tidus... he can be serious at times, like his son... but he has a hard times voicing his feelings and he can be such a douche too (2 things that I can't really recognize in Tidus). I really wonder how Tidus will turn out at 50 or so... more like his father or Auron ? Anyway, I don't entirely like the idea of Tidus coming back... just like I would not be entirely happy with Aerith or Zack coming back from the dead. When a loved character (from the fans and/or the characters) die, if it's well done, it creates a memorable moment charged with emotion. What would happen if the character changed into a Kenny ? Well, yes, it would cheapen the emotional moment (and seriously, I know a few TV show characters *main characters and villains* who went through that... their death scenes were cheapened and/or viewed as a recurring joke... to make things short : lame). Not to mention... I don't see how Tidus (or the Eons) coming back make any iota of sense. As for FF7... I fear the retcons... as I think it's rather naive to think they will not change anything, storywise. Genesis, more focus on Cloti, less on Clerith... unfortunately, I can see it. Nomura is a Gackt fanboi... and Square asked fans which pairings they liked better... and Cloti and Zerith won. As for technically changing FF7 into FF13... just no. Don't make FF7 awfully/deadly linear, please SE !!! |
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| Quexinos | Jun 3 2010, 06:31 PM Post #39 |
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WOO HOO!
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FYI I wasn't talking about the Cloister of trails, I mean the Bevelle floors where you kept going down and down and down and fighting monsters. |
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| Beatrix | Jun 3 2010, 10:58 PM Post #40 |
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Ah, sorry... I only played FF10. That's why I thought Shiva was talking about those (I should have read your post more carefully Quexinos, sorry). |
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| FeraNelia | Jun 4 2010, 10:46 AM Post #41 |
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The clip where Tidus wakes up in the ocean was already in the very end of FFX, so his return was already implied back then. I can't decide if I liked it or not - the tragic stories are always more memorable ones, but I also worked my butt off to get Tidus back ;D I was also young back then, so maybe I liked happy endings better... XIII's weak points were linearity and the story, which was mainly just about people running away, then sticking up together and then we're already in the final battle! The battle system was great and very FF-ish, but the missing side quests made the experience lamer.
I can't see why there'd be less Clerith, since everytime SE had a change, they've been playing with Clerith. (KH, Dissidia, novellas, etc...)
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| Kaldea | Jun 4 2010, 02:03 PM Post #42 |
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FFX-2 was horrid. It was never needed and the only purpose it served was to dumb down/degrade the characters to anime girl stereotypes. Even Tidus sounded all ":/" when he told Yuna that she's changed/looks different or whatever. Also a Rikku fan's wet dream. Everything that SHOULDN'T exist. But then again, compared to FFXIII, it was a million times more fun to play. It's a sad day when compared to another game, FFX-2 is actually GOOD in my opinion. |
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| Jon Snow | Jun 4 2010, 02:48 PM Post #43 |
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FFX-2 was a fun game. It was uplifting, funny, and corny. The music was really cool and the dress spheres and sphere grids were the most unique thing Squere Enix ever chalked out in a FF game. Sure the girls were skimpily dressed but so is Tifa, Ash, the bunny-thing from XII, or any of the women in XIII. They're final fantasy girls, of course they're gonna dress like whores. It's why guys liked the games so much. The only bad thing about X-2 was it's battle system which was exactly like every other FF game--boring. |
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| Kaldea | Jun 4 2010, 03:02 PM Post #44 |
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No, it's called a job system. It's been done in classic FF games, only this one lets you change mid-battle in an explosion of obnoxious anime glitter. As for the subjective points, the music was annoying and the game had some of the most horrible characters in a video game. lolopinions.
First of all, how you dress doesn't make you a whore. Second, I wouldn't apply that term to any of those girls, even if I disagreed with what they wore. That has nothing to do with their character and what makes each of them special. Nor has it anything to do with why FFX-2 was a horrible game. Third, lol at you generalizing guys. I don't know a single man who likes FFX-2 let alone even wanted to play it.
That was literally the only thing that could be called positive about the game. But I do agree that FF, or RPGs in general, have horribly boring combat. |
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| Jon Snow | Jun 4 2010, 04:11 PM Post #45 |
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It's a unique style of a "job" system. The music was amazing. LMAOopinions.
I'm not saying guys wanted to play x-2. I'm saying skimpy dressed women is one reason why guys play FF games still. You said yourself that Rikku's a fanboy wet dream. What do I label women that dress half naked then?
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And, as for doing missions after the story is already over... what's the point? It's not like I'm levelling up for an upcoming boss fight.
If they would just stick to the original story, not change any of its original elements and not add stupid offshoot characters, it would be cool as hell. As it stands, I no longer trust them to stick to original canon because the Compilation is so full of retcons and BS.








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