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| Kingdom Hearts Series; What's SE doing?!? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 9 2009, 08:36 PM (1,698 Views) | |
| Alantie | Jul 8 2009, 01:59 AM Post #16 |
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Dreams the world far away
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Roxas has some rather insane fangirls- I've heard that crap about how Roxas is better than Sora, they blame Sora for Roxas being so unhappy and miserable yada yada yada. . . . The point being is that Roxas is essentially Sora- if it weren't for him, Roxas wouldn't exist. So they seriously need to take a chill pill. :rolleyes: I agree- getting to see more of Olette would be fun. . . but I don't know if it's enough to make me want to get 358/2 Days. : / I just don't see what they could possibly come up with to talk about in that game- I felt Roxas' story was wrapped up quite neatly in KH2. *sighs* BBS- I don't even want to to touch this one. I was excited at first because I heard there would be a Sleeping Beauty world in it, but once I heard about the three NEW characters, I was completely repelled. The whole idea of a prequel to KH doesn't even make sense at this point when they've given us no reason to even wonder about one. Unlike FFVII where it was hinted with Zack and the Nibelheim event that there was a possibility for an interesting prequel, KH has not given anything to indicate that a prequel would happen. I'm also fairly annoyed by the fact that in order to get the entire story to make sense, you have to play through 3 times, each with a different character. Ugh. |
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| Kuraudo | Jul 8 2009, 02:59 PM Post #17 |
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Honestly, I've read the spoilers, and the story they came up with for this game is batshit insane. :rolleyes: I'm so turned off by the story and the new character Xion that I don't even want to play the game, despite Roxas being in it. That's how bad it is. Lol, I think Roxas is better than Sora too, but that doesn't mean I feel he needs his own game. It's almost pathetically obvious that 358/2 is just another sad attempt by the creators to get people to fork over cash. It's just like Crisis Core. If this game were a non-canon spin-off, I wouldn't mind it, but knowing that they purposefully screwed with canon the way they did here and are fine with it? That's so irritating. As far as I'm concerned, for me, Roxas' story ended with KH2, and the new game isn't canon. ![]() Oh, and BBS looks absolutely horrible too. |
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| Alantie | Jul 9 2009, 02:43 AM Post #18 |
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Dreams the world far away
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I agree- The whole thing with Xion is UTTERLY ridiculous. I've read some freaking crazy crap about her, and I'm completely disgusted. She's being hawked as a 'love interest' for Roxas? Uh, what happened to his relationship with Namine? I'm also annoyed that they keep recreating the 'trio'- Xion is supposed to be the Kairi in the friendship with Axel and Roxas, and its so stupid. >.< XD Well, I respect your opinion, Kura bb. <3 I don't dislike Roxas- only the warped version his fans have conjured up. And I agree, the fact that they're screwing with canon is highly irritating- you either find a way to fit it in without disrupting what's already going on, or you simply don't do it. Ugh. Why doesn't SE understand this? <.<BBS needs to DIE. D: And what's this crap about Xehanort being a Keyblade master? *clutches head* Out of curiosity, I'm wondering if anyone has gotten and played Re: CoM. I didn't get to play the original CoM, so I'm wondering if this one is worth playing? |
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| Ally McBeal | Jul 9 2009, 05:31 AM Post #19 |
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xion can't be roxas love's interest cuz she's the nobody of sora just like roxas..so theyr the same person kinda...and...that makes xion not a girl really |
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| Pyra Kurai Akaidra | Jul 10 2009, 12:24 AM Post #20 |
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Proud Yaoi Fan
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I read the spoilers for Days, so I get the gist of the current situation. [spoiler=Xion Spoilers]From what I read/heard, Xion is a copy of Sora, in case anything happens to him in his memory restoring coma. The reason why Xion looks like she that was because Sora's strongest memories of Kairi influenced her looks. But she's slowly changing throughout the game, therefore... Disney's first hermaphrodite??[/spoiler] |
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| Alantie | Jul 10 2009, 01:49 AM Post #21 |
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Dreams the world far away
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[spoiler=Spoilerz]From what I've been reading, Xion seems to be an imperfect clone of Sora created by Xemnas from Sora's memories. Which totally makes me go WTF. How does that make any sense? She appears BEFORE Sora enters Castle Oblivion, before Namine messes with his memories. So how does Xemnas create her? I'm completely lost. But yeah, I think you're right Pyra- it seems the reason she looks like Kairi is because of Sora's strong memories of her. Supposedly why she starts to look more and more like Sora in appearance during the course of the game is because of Namine's work on piecing Sora's memories back together. So just like the process affects Roxas, it's also affecting her too. Eventually it pretty much drives her insane and she attacks Roxas so she can become the 'real' Sora by absorbing Roxas- it seems that if she succeeded, Sora would never have awakened from his little pod sleep. But what ends up happening is after Roxas defeats Xion, he absorbed her. So. . . I don't get why this is any different from her absorbing him. But I'm serious- from what I've been reading, Xion and Roxas are supposed to have a romance. Which gives a whole new meaning to loving yourself. O.o And how much more messed up is Sora going to become? First he becomes a heartless and creates TWO Nobodies from his body, ends up absorbing his- who apparently has absorbed Sora's female clone. I mean- what SENSE does any of this make??[/spoiler] |
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| Kuraudo | Jul 10 2009, 03:08 PM Post #22 |
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Lol, it's okay 'Lantie, I've always thought Sora was really cool, too. <3
This drives me insane. I hate the way they're suddenly trying to stick her in like that. It's so unwarranted that it just serves to make me dislike her even more. I'll admit, the thing that I liked best about the story we were originally given in KH2 about Roxas' time in the Org. is his friendship with Axel. I liked trying to piece what their time together was like--from the insistance of Axel and others that they were best friends, to Roxas who doesn't learn the truth until it's too late. I loved their friendship. I remember I even had a knot in my throat when I watched the scene where they said goodbye to eachother in Final Mix. D: Now, knowing the backstory, that there was a stupid girl in the middle of the whole thing, and the creators tried to force a Sora/Kairi/Riku thing out of the trio pisses me off, honestly. It sort of ruins what I thought of Roxas and Axel's relationship in KH2. Or at least screws it up. [spoiler=Spoilers]Though I guess in a way things aren't so bad--everybody forgets about her in the end. I'm glad for that, but it still makes things feel so different. And Yes, Xion is an imperfect copy of Sora. I read that she was supposed to be a back up in case something happened to Roxas. I guess Xemnas just wanted the two to fight it out in the end to see who was stronger, and which one would absorb the other. The whole story is a convoluted mess, to be honest.[/spoiler] I don't understand where you guys are getting a romance from. I guess maybe from the obviously forced Destiny Trio dynamic? [spoiler=Thoughts on Roxas/Xion]Xion's relationship with Roxas is as ambiguous as any other. The game, I think, revolves around whether or not Nobodies can feel. So of course Roxas and Xion are going to bond, blah, blah... I've seen the cutscenes, and he is really sad when she dies. But for one thing, Xion isn't a Nobody. She is Roxas. I don't think, beyond friendship, it was ever implied that Xion was supposed to represent more to Roxas than just how screwed up the Org. is with their experiments. The fact that she isn't there in the end of the story with him shows this, IMO. Xion represents how screwed up the Org. is, and her death sort of prompts Roxas to learn the truth about everything. Roxas' relationship with Namine, I think, is completely different. There are so many romantic parallels there, KH2 pretty much screamed Roxas/Namine to me. Namine saves him from being pulled into darkness, she is the ONLY person who is honest with him about who he is, and the two promise to meet eachother again no matter what. Hell, even their clothes match colors.[/spoiler] What seals the deal for me most of all, I'm thinking, is that Roxas and Namine are both nobodies. They can completely relate to eachother in this, and they are the only two nobodies affiliated with the Org. to survive in the end. Xion wasn't even a nobody, she was just an unknown quantity parading around as one. Xion is gone by the end, Roxas and Namine make it to the end of KH2 together, and the ending of that game shows their relationship is completely parallel with Sora/Kairi. That's enough for me. I'm still 100% Roxas/Namine. <3 I don't know why SE would bother showing parallels there if they were just going to go back on everything in KH2 and shove Roxas with someone else. Then again, not much that they do makes sense, nowadays. [spoiler=Oh, and one other thing]I remember watching a cutscene from 358/2 Days that took place right before Xion dies. She talks with Namine, and more or less asks her to take care of Roxas for her. I thought that was very interesting. Despite the fact that everyone forgets Xion, Namine still takes it upon herself to help Roxas.[/spoiler] |
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