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Invaders; It seems we're not the only ones...
Topic Started: Jan 24 2009, 10:59 PM (926 Views)
Anastar
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Angelwing Aeris tells me that a new Cloti forum was invaded last night. As you all know, we've had invaders here, too.

The person who invaded the Cloti forum made over 100 posts with comments like "Cloti sux", etc, all over their forum. The same thing has happened here with invaders like Peppermint and others. My guess is that the same person is invading both the Cloti forum and our Clerith forum in order to flame the fanwars between us.

I just want to make it clear that *IF* I ever find out that one of our members is invading that Cloti forum to do things like that, I will delete that member's account from this forum. I do not want our forum represented by anyone who does such things to other people. It's just plain wrong, and it's totally obnoxious.

We do not agree with the Cloti's, but it is wrong to invade forums and post nonsense like that. We don't like it when it happens to us, and there's no reason we should be doing it to others. I would be embarrassed and ashamed to find out that it's one of our members, and I totally condemn such actions. I certainly hope that none of our members would stoop to doing such a thing.

I've asked the admin of the Cloti forum to email me, and I hope she does. I'd like to work together with her to figure out who this person is. Perhaps we can find some way of preventing such invasions from happening to both of our forums in the future.
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Zeletina
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Hey there....good point. It just seems like such a vicious cycle, doesn't it? Of course if people spread negativity around it's going to come back and bite you in your you-know-what... (God, even when some people try to make NICE with others it doesn't work....shall I start with "The Love Basket"? Does anyone remember that? :P )

Anastar, I was just thinking about something. Do you think that the bashing invaders thread is maybe not such a good idea? :unsure: I think it just might add fuel to the fire and trigger even more negativity...what do you think?
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Anastar
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Yes, I remember the Love Basket - but I don't remember it as being an attempt to be nice to *anyone*. The "Hate Basket" would've been a better name for it. :lol:

Zeletina
 
Anastar, I was just thinking about something.  Do you think that the bashing invaders thread is maybe not such a good idea? I think it just might add fuel to the fire and trigger even more negativity...what do you think?

That forum was started at the request of members who wanted to reply to posts made by invaders. I agree that it adds fuel to the fire, but I also can't blame members who didn't want to just sit by and take whatever the invaders threw at us. But I'll go with whatever the members want to do.

So - question to everybody: Would members like the "Bash Invaders Here" forum to stay, or would you rather see it taken down? :unsure:
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xx-Forever-Aerith-xx
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Jan 31 2009, 01:30 PM
So - question to everybody: Would members like the "Bash Invaders Here" forum to stay, or would you rather see it taken down? :unsure:

I may not be that active, and I certainly don't participate in the invaders forum but personally I think it should be taken it down.

From what I have seen in the posts in there, there are alot of personal insults being thrown about by both members of this forum and the invaders. I don't think it's fair to continue to let personal insults go on. It's very immature that that sort of thing has to go on in a shipping debate and to see many people resort to these insults is rather embarresing as a shipper of this pairing. But thats just me, sorry if what i've said was wrong but thought I should say something.
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sessystalker
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As much as I love reading the members of this forum pwn the invaders, it might be safer to take the board down. ^^; I've already had a couple friends watch me browse the forum and wonder why we're "bashing people" here. Of course, I explained to them the situations, but I don't think it gives the forum a very good reputation.

Really, it's the invaders at fault here, and all we're doing is giving them what they want when we respond this way to them.
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Angelwing Aeris
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As much as I love reading the members of this forum pwn the invaders, it might be safer to take the board down. ^^; I've already had a couple friends watch me browse the forum and wonder why we're "bashing people" here. Of course, I explained to them the situations, but I don't think it gives the forum a very good reputation.


I'm with sessy on this one.
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Zeletina
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Jan 31 2009, 08:30 AM
Yes, I remember the Love Basket - but I don't remember it as being an attempt to be nice to *anyone*. The "Hate Basket" would've been a better name for it. :lol:

Hahaha, I was referring to some of CxA members joining that forum to make make peace and be friendly... But it just ended really bad...

What I think is this... Say we get an invader and he or she makes a thread... We can bash them in that thread until a mod closes it and puts it in the graveyard... But to have the bashing continue in the "Bash Invaders Here" thread isn't such a good idea, I think... In other words we fight the invader of the moment and then just ban them and throw the thread in the graveyard so that the bashing will end from there. I just think letting it continue will make more and more people invade us or write terrible things about us elsewhere. It's just not needed.
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Anastar
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In other words we fight the invader of the moment and then just ban them and throw the thread in the graveyard so that the bashing will end from there.

Actually, that's what we used to do. The "Bash Invader Forum" was made because members wanted to respond to Invader threads, but there was no place to put those threads. Previously, we'd just throw them in the Thread Graveyard.

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I just think letting it continue will make more and more people invade us or write terrible things about us elsewhere.  It's just not needed.

In actuality, horrible things were written about us LONG before we created the "Bash Invaders Forum". Destiny Failed's been running since the summer of 2007.

The recent invasions started in late November, 2008, and we had no "Bash Invaders Forum" at that time. That forum was created *after* the invasions had started. Also, there have been no invasions since mid-December, so the invasions have not continued because of the forum.

However, since most people seem to want the "Bash Invaders" forum closed, I've deleted it from the forum. From now on, we can put Invader threads in the Thread Graveyard like always, and let people respond to the posts there.
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I would think it's fine. I mean, I don't care if Cloti's talk about Cleris' in their forum. It's a given that they're going to and it's not like the thread is the source of Cloti's coming to invade this forum. I think we should all know from experience that no matter what we do in this forum, as long as we support CxA, there's going to be a Cloti invader at some point.

And there's also the fact that it's the INVADERS thread. I mean, we're going to give courtesy for those that flame us in our own forum? I would think of myself as an okay guy, but I can't support being nice towards invaders on this forum. I'm sorry for not being a saint, but that's just how I feel.

Meh-
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I agree with MistahCloudStrife, note that I don't really care about it(haven't really participated in it). Just wanna give my two cents in this issue. Close that section because you don't like it there, not because of "reputation" or what other people would think or do. Believe me when I say that no matter what we do or say, there'll still be invasions and there'll still be bashing. This issue has been going on for more than a decade and I really doubt it's gonna stop just because we close a section or two...

This forum is for you and your enjoyment. We're not going to appease the invaders nor anyone else outside this forum.
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Anastar
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Close that section because you don't like it there, not because of "reputation" or what other people would think or do. Believe me when I say that no matter what we do or say, there'll still be invasions and there'll still be bashing. This issue has been going on for more than a decade and I really doubt it's gonna stop just because we close a section or two...

This forum is for you and your enjoyment. We're not going to appease the invaders nor anyone else outside this forum.

I agree with you, Shrouded and MCS.

I don't really care what others think. I also don't think what we do will result in more or less invasions. As long as we endorse a pairing that the Cloti's oppose, they will continue complaining about it. As Shrouded pointed out, they've been doing it for over a decade. I expect they will continue, regardless of what we do.
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Zeletina
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I understand that there have been/will always be invaders. I just thought that having the bashing thread would just egg more invaders on. Plus I think stooping down to their level (continuing to bash them or going as far as invading THEIR forums) just doesn't make any sense...we're not hostile, R4B!D CL!TOZ ROFFLEOMGWTFBBQ!! D:!!11


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Shrouded
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I just thought that having the bashing thread would just egg more invaders on.


Like I said though, it's not gonna make a difference whether we bash em or not. They'll still come whatever we do. The point still stand though, do it because you want it to, not because you're worried other people might do or say something. If you think stooping down to their level doesn't make any sense, then go ahead. Just as long as you think it so. That's rather idealistic in my opinion, but there's no harm in thinking that way....

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we're not hostile, R4B!D CL!TOZ ROFFLEOMGWTFBBQ!! D:!!11


We're human Zeletina. There will always gonna be a bad apple in a group. We do good things and we do bad things. That's just human nature...
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Chibica
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...What if some rabid!Cleriths are actually Rabid!CloTis in disguise? Do you think closing our bashing section will be able to stop that twisted behaviors? I've seen lots of fights in youtube, there're ppl trying their best to make Cleriths look bad. Like Shrouded said, "do it because you want it to". And if you think it'll get you down on that level, don't do the bashing, it's up to ppl's choice.

I enjoy this place no matter there's a bashing thread or not, and it's not like everyone log in here are all for attacking the other side...
Anyway I'm fine either way, just feel like dropping my two cents. :blush:
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My two cents : if you don't like the thread, don't look at it. Just scroll past. Simple as that.

Unless, the entire forum as a majority does want it closed, then sure, go ahead and close it. Otherwise, as long as people still want to use that thread as a release, they're free to do so, and those that don't agree can just not look.

Like other people have said, bashing and invasion will continue regardless. Even before we had that thread we had invaders almost every full moon (:P) so I doubt it's any more incentive to "egg them on".

//$0.02
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