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| Aerife | Oct 9 2008, 05:39 PM Post #1 |
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I wasn't sure where to place this, but I got into a small debate with a Clerith and Clack supporter on Youtube (although not a fan), and we were discussing CloudxAerith's relationship in FF, as well as subsequent games. Here's what the person had to say: ---- No, Cloud did love Zack romanitaclly but not as much as he loved Aerith. You don't scream like this for someone you have known for such a short time. And Cloud wouldn't have screamed like that for anyone else except for maybe Aerith. When your best friend dies, you still don't scream like that. Zack was best friends with Angeal and he cried a whole lot about his death but he didn't scream like that. Actually, he didn't scream at all. Even though Cloud's a child in CC and he's more sensitive than Zack, it still doesn't explain his emotional breakdown. If Cloud didn't love Zack romanitaclly, then what would he have done if he did? You can't possibly scream more. Cloud screams as if his heart has been ripped out of his chest. When you love your child or someone you're in love with you'll either won't have the power to scream and tremble and cry (Aerith's death) or you'll scream at the top of your lungs (Zack's death). Cloud talks about Aerith while she's dead in his hands but he's not alone. Sephiroth is there and listens to him, not to mention his other friends. You could say that he screamed like that for Zack because he was also stressed about his mother's death and the loss of his hometown but still, it doesn't explain the screaming. It depends on how you scream too. If Cloud loved Zack only as a friend , then he would have probably just screamed some while he was crying. Cloud screams as if he's dying, not to mention the way he remembers Zack and looks at the sky as if he has lost his world. If you scream like that for a friend, then how the hell would you scream for a lover? Most people know that ZackxCloud is almost canon. Same goes for CloudxAerith. Cloud loved Aerith more than Zack, he doesn't need his forgiveness in AC. Now DC is a title which doesn't provide any Clerith proof, let's be honest. But it doesn't provide any Cloti proof either. This is from as far as I've seen. The item being in that other game does't mean anything. Still in FF7 and in AC the Clerith evidence is clear but mostly because of her death. Sure there are other hints too but not that many. Cloud asks about Zack, this doesn't mean that he necessarily loves her. But him being more open only around her and him crying over her death that much is proof enough. In KH2 Clerith is not official, Cleon is more official than Clerith. None of the pairs are canon except for the Disney ones. If Clerith was official there would be debates about KH2 not to mention fanfiction. When AC was released, there was more fanfiction about Clerith for FF7 even though this pair doesn't have nearly as many fans as others like SephirothxCloud, CloudxTifa and probably ZackxCloud too. When KH2 was released, Clerith fanfiction about KH2 didn't increase. There are only a few fanfics about them actually because Cloud doesn't like her romantically for the time being. Nomura had given an interview about KH1 which was something like this: "Yes, she dies in FF7 but there isn't any real connection to her role in FF7 or what she did there. There is no real connection from FF7 to the KH series, I consider them seperate stories. But if you play KH, towards the end some answers about the relationship of Cloud and Aerith in FF7 might be answered. You can think of it as a sidestory and it was a bonus I wanted to give to the fans." This is the most valuable info you can say about them and it still doesn't proove anything. Let me tell you why. In a Clerith site, they say some ridiculous things and some things which are correct. But one of those ridiculous things is that FF7 has some realtion to KH. Answer to this: no it doesn't from what we've seen so far. Nomura said that they're seperate stories. He calls it a "sidestory" in the sense that those characters are originally from FF7. This is clear because he explains that there is no actual relation. The only relation there is is the borrowed characters. Their past might be similar or completely different to that of FF7. And now about the relationship thing he said. I've already said that Nomura left it open in KH1. He also says "some answers". This could mean two things: either that their relationship remains exactly the same but only some answers will be answered or (and this is what happens) their relationship is different and that's why only SOME questions about their relationship can be answered. A question like: is Aerith guiding Cloud? Yes she does she helps him as a friend. Is Cloud like a lost child who needs the help of a caring mother? Yes, Aerith is in love with Cloud in KH2 but she's also like a caring mother, worrying about Cloud who is like a lost puppy. But a simple answer that can be given and a Clerith fan won't be able to say anything to this is that Cloud hasn't done anything which prooves that he loves her in KH1 and this statement of Nomura was about KH1 which means that many things can change in KH2. And they did. In KH2 most people will tell you that Cloud likes Leon, that he's in love with Leon or that he's on the way there. Why? Because he's the ONLY person Cloud is more open around like Aerith was in FF7. And imagine that Cloud can even joke around Leon even though he's MUCH colder in KH2 than he is in FF7. He can't say thanks to Aerith or even smile a little to her, he's kinda cold and he looks at her with his usual stoic look as he looks at everyone else. While with Leon the situation is the same sometimes, Cloud is clearly more open to him and when Leon is teasing him, Cloud teases back! That was the BIG surprises. CLOUS ACTUALLY MAKES A JOKE. Not to mention that he also smirks(!) when he teases Leon. Hell, it's how I would answer to someone I liked. Someone might say that maybe Leon is his only friend or his best friend or a long time friend. First of all he doesn't know Leon any longer than he knows Aerith and it's clear that he's friends with her too. Also if you were cold but you had 2 friends and you were closer to one of them, surely you would be more open around him, but wouldn't you smile around your other friend a little too? In AC Cloud manages to smile to his friends AFTER he talks to Aerith but in KH2 he can't even smile to her. Also, I think Nomura said about KH2 that this is how they had imagined that their relationship would have been, had Aerith lived. So a Clerith fan might say then does he love her as he did in FF7? The anser: NO. Why? Even if that had been indeed what they would have been like (which I doubt sometimes, I sometimes think Nomura just said it for the Cloti fans or sth) had Aerith not died, you forget a VERY important detail that happens in FF7 and NOT in KH2. AERITH IS THE ONLY PERSON CLOUD IS MORE OPEN AROUND WHILE IN KH2 LEON IS THE ONLY PERSON CLOUD IS MORE OPEN AROUND. So in other words it's like saying that they would be like this but the difference is that Cloud loved Aerith in FF7 but he doesn't love her in KH. He wouldn't have acted the same. That convo they have in KH2 might have been similar but Cloud would be more open to her in general. Have you ever wondered why they "called it" even between Aerith and Tifa and gave Leon the upper hand? Have you seen how many fanfics about CloudxLeon there are? They are 7 TIMES and more the Clerith ones (we're talking about KH). In FF and KH and in most other games/movies etc the most fanfictions and the most fans in general go to pairings which are almost canon or canon. In KH those pairing are: SoraxKairi, RikuxSora, AxelxRoxas, RoxasxNamine and CloudxLeon. All the other pairings don't have a lot of fanfiction. I'm sure you know how popular the SephirothxCloud pairing is. But in KH, there are only some fanfics about this pairing. If Sephiroth is somewhere together with Cloud, Cloud usually chooses Leon over him and Sephiroth is the evil guy trying to take Cloud away just as he does in KH2. Square-Enix left it open in KH1, they were probably like we'll get Tifa in KH2 so that Cloti fans will be happy and oh look at this CloudxSquall is a pairing which sells, let's put a yaoi hint. The fans will be pleased. And the fans were pleased. You know what the funny thing is? That I'm sure that most Clerith fans are lik: oh thank God that Cloud smiled around Leon and NOT around Tifa. I couldn't stand this. Not that they don't like Tifa but because they don't Aerith to lost to Tifa. See how many debates there are in FF7 about them, well there are plenty and see how many there are about the KH series. Almost none. Also these are not the only pairs of FF7 there are fights about. ZackxCloud fans and CloudxAerith also have arguments. Some Clack fans are like: he didn't love Aerith and some Cleirth fans are like: he loved Aerith more than he loved Zack. The fans won't stp hoping anfd for your information, I wouldn't want to be a Cloti fan. It's the pairing with the fewest hints from Cloud's side. Everyone is like: Cloud loved Zack, look how he screamed for him even though he didn't know him that long and how open he was around him. Cloud loved Aerith, look how he cried for her and he was also more open to her even though he didn't know her that long. Cloud had a crush on Sephiroth, he was so obsessed with him, even after he killed Aerith and everything he did Cloud's like: Stay where you belong. In my memories." I wouldn't say that to my enemy, I would tel him to stay in the past not in my memories...Though they have the same meaning, there are just some things you don't say to your enemy. Cloud...liked Tifa? He just had a crush one her when he was a KID. He could have been gay and though that he had a crush on her. The only way that all the fans will be plaesd is if there are hints for each pair WITHOUT destroying the storyline. Cloud is bisexual, we all know that, so everyone's happy. They give yaoi and het hints so everyone's happy. Nomura says things, Nojima says things (hey he had said something about Cloud and Tifa ending up together, did that happen?). They'll just say things and play with the fans in order to do their job. You have to see if the things they say are being shown throughout the game/movie. I remember telling about the whole LeonxCloudxAerithxTifa thing in KH2 to a friend. She was like he loves Aerith in the beginning and then when I showed her the scene she was like hmm we'll have to see, show me the others too. When I showed her the first scene of Cloud and Leon in KH2 she smiled knowingly at me and said he's more relaxed around him indeed. I alos remember readin somewhere, even though I don't agree with it, a true threesome: (and someone wrote) LeonxCloudxAerith it works for them. You know because Aerith loves Cloud, Cloud likes Leon, Leon might like Cloud and well that person probably thought (since Cloud loved Aerith in FF7) of them as a KH2 threesome lols. Oh God, well I prefer it to other threesomes I guess. ---- Huge response, eh? Well what do you all make of it (the subsequent games and such)? |
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| Saeki | Oct 9 2008, 07:07 PM Post #2 |
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Wow.... Just wow... Hmm I dont even know where to start. 1st thing 1st i guess... The counts of fanfiction = cannon?????? Seriously??? =/ Just becoz there are more CloudxZack fanfiction or CloudxLeon fanfiction exist in the world doesnt mean they are cannon x.x;; Most fanfiction are based on events that fan/writer wish would happen in the game/anime/story. So if 90% of the people who play ff7/kh2 loves yaoi and wish cloud would kiss zack/leon means the pairings are cannon? Thats just absurd!! :< IMO and bear in mind i never play crisis core nor ff7, Cloud scream for his lost of a best friend. Well it differs to everyone how each would react when they experience lost. But to me cloud sees zack as the 1st person who genuinely care about him. Like an elder brother/mentor figure. I dont think he loves zack romantically. He might love him as a genuine 1st friend i suppose (correct me if im wrong please). Though im not sure what i should defend since the person who wrote all that consider Cloud loves Aerith more than he loves zack romantically... x.x; It just seems VERY off to me. I feel like laughing but i dun want to disrespect people's opinion. They are entitle to their own opinion afterall. KH.... Hmmm.... I am trying very hard to understand that person's fondness of Cloud seriously canonly loving another man let alone 2 man.. Or how he define cloud as a bisexual... Anyways, since he mention about the interview with nomura when he says "towards the end some answers about the relationship of Cloud and Aerith in FF7 might be answered". If anyone sees the ending, the 1st thing that comes to mind would probably be "Oh, finally they are reunited", Cloud searching for Aerith when they are in a different world, parallel to them in ff7 when Cloud search for Aerith after she dies (being life and death are 2 different world). Just look at FF tactic. :< In KH2, I believe that their relationship is shown exactly the same as they are in ff7. How Aerith is able to understand Cloud's problem without having an explanation from him or letting Cloud to do his own things and come back to her. Cloud cares about her not wanting to drag her into the messiness of his problems. Cloud even promise he would come back to her (despite what people say that cloud didnt actually say he promise but it is implied). Well thats how i see it :) *start praying that in KH3 Rinoa would appear and kiss Squall* |
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| Asuka | Oct 10 2008, 06:05 AM Post #3 |
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Clack I'll just comment on this bit for now, because I'm too lazy to read the rest hahaha. That and I just had to say this. I doubt Cloud loved Zack romantically (he's not gay! he loves Aerith xD), just because someone screams their heart out when someone dies doesn't necessarily mean they loved them romantically. For example, Dylan McKay from Beverly Hills 90210, he screamed his heart out when his dad died right in front of him and I seriously doubt Dylan loved his dad romantically, in fact he was only just beginning to like and forgive his dad. Certain people have ways of dealing with their grief. I don't remember Cloud screaming for Aerith so...with that persons logic he doesn't love Aerith because he didn't scream when she died. I know I'd scream my heart out if my best friend died in front of my eyes....I'd scream if anyone died in front of me! I know this person says Cloud loves Aerith more than Zack...but I had to say something. Oh as for cloud being Bi and having a crush on Sephiroth...I highly doubt that, being Bisexual means feeling sexually attracted to both sexes not just having a silly crush on them. Where does it ever say/show that cloud wanted to hump Sephiroths leg off or jump Zacks bones? It doesn't even show that he was sexually attracted to Aerith or Tifa either. Besides everyone admires someone as a kid and strives to be like them when they grow up but that doesn't mean we have a crush on them. I like Yaoi but this persons like, woah! :lol: Sorry for being so brief. Busy. Add more later. |
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| Pyra Kurai Akaidra | Oct 10 2008, 06:20 AM Post #4 |
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Okay, a Clerith fan who's admittedly a Clacker While Zack/Cloud got a good basis for yaoi (hence all those yummy fanfiction, eye-candy fanarts and doujinshi, etc), it can also be argued that, considering their situation, they're just really good, close friends. For Cloud, Zack was practically his first and real best friend he ever made, who doesn't ignore him. Unless you count his 'relationship' with Tifa in his childhood as close, the friendship between the two guys was essentially important to Cloud. For Zack, Cloud was like a fresh breath of And I won't comment on the 'bisexual' part, due to me being a Clerith and a Clack. |
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| MistaCloudStrife | Oct 10 2008, 01:37 PM Post #5 |
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I read up to this... "No, Cloud did love Zack romanitaclly" and stopped. No. I refuse to waste my time after reading this first sentence. I can't see why anyone would keep reading after this. This is terrible. Unless this word "romanitaclly" is some new word in the dictionary meaning "like a brother" then I'm not reading any more. Just no. No words can express how I feel right now. I'm just in awe at this introduction to some LOOOOONNNNGG explanation on why cloud is involved with Zack "romanitaclly". This is too much for me. I can't take it. Is it bad that I feel this way? |
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| Saeki | Oct 10 2008, 01:42 PM Post #6 |
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Wow =o I didnt even notice the "romanitaclly". *hugs MistaCloudStrife* I dont believe it is bad you feel that way. I was in awe (in a bad way) when i read it.. Pratically had to force myself to go through reading it just for the curiousity of this person's reason to believe that cloud loves zack romanitaclly. =o Go read more clerith stuff :) Im sure it will make you feel better
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| Anastar | Oct 10 2008, 02:39 PM Post #7 |
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Basically, I find that whole essay laughable. And yes, MCS... I had trouble reading it, too. But it's just as well that you didn't read it, coz it got even worse! ![]() That person doesn't have his/her facts straight at all. For example, he/she claims that Nojima said that Cloud and Tifa end up together, which isn't true. Nojima did say that Cloud and Tifa would be together after FFVII, but he didn't say they'd "end up together". And by the way, he said that on a page that was dealing with *locations* in the Compilation, not *relationships*. So, he was only talking about the fact that they would both be located in Midgar/Edge, not that they are now a couple. <_< In the second place, this person states that Cloud is bisexual as though it has been confirmed. Where was that ever confirmed? There's plenty of scenes where it's implied that Cloud can get together with Dio, Mukki, and Don Corneo, but c'mon... those were jokes! It was never intended to be taken seriously. <_< As yes, there's plenty of yaoi fanfics and doujinshi out there about CloudxZack, CloudxSephiroth, CloudxVincent, and more... but there's also fanfics about TifaxAerith, RudexRufus, TsengxReno, CidxVincent, and even TifaxDenzel! Does that mean those pairings are official?!? Hardly. Yes, there's a ton of CidxVincent doujinshi, but as I remember, Cid married Shera. <_<Another thing - Cloud screams when Zack dies, and that proves he loved Zack romantically? Puh-leeze. We've already discussed this to some extent in the Why I think Cloti evidence doesn't add up thread. Some people are saying that Cloud showed more emotion at Zack's death in CC than Aerith's death in FFVII. Well, guess what? CC has better graphics! Cloud clearly showed greater emotion at Aerith's death in FFVII than at Zack's death in FFVII when comparable graphics were used. Therefore, if Aerith's death were redone in the same quality graphics as used in CC, then Cloud's reaction to Aerith's death in CC style graphics would be more emotional than his reaction to Zack's death in CC. It's really unfair to compare the scenes when one is done in much higher quality graphics than the other. |
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| Aerife | Oct 10 2008, 07:02 PM Post #8 |
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Thank you for all your responses, guys. It really cleared some things up. That person is right about one thing though: I have seen a scene of Cloud and Aerith in KH2 on Youtube. And from the looks of it, it seemed that Cloud was treating her coldly. When Aerith said that his light would lead him back to her, Cloud went "I suppose". IMHO that sounded cold. So this person MIGHT be right that Cloud never loved Aerith in the KH universe ![]() I'm sorry if this argument has offended my fellow Cleriths here, but I'm just trying to do my job as a loyal Clerith. I don't want our number 1 pairing to be verbally attacked >_> More responses to this loooong argument would be greatly appreciated. But thanks for the current responses, everyone :) |
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| Anastar | Oct 10 2008, 08:12 PM Post #9 |
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Ah, but you haven't played the game, have you? Please don't make assumptions without understanding the context.You're right that Cloud seems rather cold when he says that. However, Cloud isn't sure what's going to happen to him in KH2. Essentially, Sephiroth is trying to draw him to the dark side in KH2. As a result, Cloud is fighting a battle of inner light vs. inner darkness in KH2. When he says that to Aerith, it's because he's not sure he can win that battle. For all he knows, he may become a creature of darkness. In that scene, Cloud also tells Aerith that he doesn't want her involved, right? He says that because he's afraid of what might happen to her if she goes with him to fight his inner darkness - Sephiroth. He's trying to protect her. The fact that Aerith is Cloud's romantic light is clearly shown in KH1. KH2 is actually about Cloud's struggle with his own inner light vs. darkness, and his attempt to resolve that. The whole theme of KH2 is quite different than the theme of KH1, in that the theme of KH1 dealt with different characters searching for their romantic light, while the theme of KH2 dealt with different characters struggling with their inner darkness - just like Cloud. More about KH2 can be found in this essay on my site: Who is Cloud's Light? A second essay by Alantie discussing the difference in theme between KH2 and KH1 will be included in my next site update, which should happen within the next few days.
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| Aerife | Oct 10 2008, 08:43 PM Post #10 |
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Yeah, you're right. I've never played KH2. As a matter of fact, I've never played any of the subsequent games involving CloudxAerith, so my assumptions of it are based on watching small scenes on youtube. I told that person what you have just told me: Cloud was trying to protect Aerith by not getting her involved. But she didn't buy it. Here's what she had to say, starting from KH1: --- I just meant that the FF7 Cloud isn't the KH Cloud if you know what I mean. Same goes for all the FF chars. It's like writing an AU story. They "reunited", they're friends, that's all. Cloud doesn't love her in the KH series. Aerith loves him in this series too though, it shows in KH2. --- The second time I questioned her, now on KH2: --- He acts as cold to her as he does around everyone else (except Leon) even though she's so sweet to him. I'm talking about KH2. He acts around her like he acted around Tifa in AC. He doesn't like Tifa in that way either. The makers just thought to leave it open in KH1 and in KH2 they just put Cleon scenes for the fans of the pair. I think there are no canon pairs except for the disney ones. They just show a part of the Clerith relationship, the friendly one. --- And finally, the KH2 scene in question: --- if you watch it it's totally friendly from Cloud's side. He's kinda cold to her, it zooms on his face in one point (right before he shows doubt about whether he'll be back) and he has a very serious look, he has even narrowed his eyes when he's talking to her. He doesn't want her hurt because she's his friend. He loves her a lot as a friend. I would say the exact same things to a friend of mine. Cloud is still searching for his "light" in KH2, it wasn't Aerith. --- So I'm really confused here about KH Cloud being contrary to the original Cloud. I am swayed by her views of it. This person has played the game, so she sounds pretty sure of herself. I've never played the game, so I don't know if I should buy her argument or not.
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| Kaldea | Oct 10 2008, 08:45 PM Post #11 |
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Just a quick post, but she isn't worth this time. :mellow: Her opinion shouldn't matter so much to you. The importance of someone's opinion is really dependent on the amount of importance you give it yourself. |
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| Vixie | Oct 10 2008, 09:34 PM Post #12 |
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Wow, someone has had read waaay too many yaoi fics The most gay hints I got in Crisis Core were from Zack towards Angeal anyway lol! Oh, so Zack ruffled Cloud's hair, that must mean he wants him sooo bad!She has a point about Cloud and Aerith in Kingdom Hearts though, I see no real love from Cloud to Aerith in KH2 and I don't go nuts about it (although I squeed just a little at the KH1 ending). The only time I ever bring it up is when Clotis start saying that SE always portrayed Cloud and Tifa as the canon couple of FF7, as it is useful in contradicting that logic. I mean, why show Cloud reuniting with "the love rival" in that case? I don't really want romance involved in the FF characters stories in Kingdom Hearts, it's really annoying that people go on about it so much, this who is Cloud's light business. *yawn* I'm thinking that's why Tifa was put into KH2 in the first place, because of all this fuss about the LT, and they did a really good job of making her look stupid! No Cloud/Aerith/Tifa LT stuff in non FFVII titles plz! |
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| imaninjawoo | Oct 10 2008, 10:34 PM Post #13 |
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ME TOO!!!!!! NO!!!! NO!!!!! NO!!!!!!! I barely even read that sentence and I already knew it was gonna be something like that! Yuck! Do you not understand what Zack has done for Cloud? He protected him, he took care of him, he...gah! I would scream to if my bestest friend died right in front of my eyeballs! But that doesn't mean that I love her! Yuck! Wrong! Sick! I'm sorry if I'm being too blunt but I am being honest!!!!!! |
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| Beatrix | Oct 10 2008, 11:18 PM Post #14 |
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Don't bother with yaoi fans. Some of them see yaoi/slash everywhere ( when the characters are dear friends, rivals, enemies... ). It's sad because I see that in every fanbase of every shows/movies/manga/video games, books that I know. Well, if it is canon and well-written, why not ? Funny in a comedy, not bad. Just for fun... entertaining. But I'm sad that it almost erase the great canon friendship developed between the characters in those fans's mind. Well, the yaoi fans aren't the only ones to make couples that don't exist. It's just that everyone doesn't understand the love between 2 men or 2 women ( I don't understand it, I'm not gay myself... however I respect their choices and I think that people should let them live their life and let them be happy ). You know, I don't think that japanese people understand it in their society... I've even read that yaoi is more made for women, because this is a way to enjoy an equal relationship between 2 people ( unfortunately, women aren't exactly totally seen as equal as men in some countries ). Anyway, FF is so much of a ship mess, especially FF7. There are more fanon couples than canon couples. What I think : there is no way that Cloud is in love with Zack or Sephiroth ( or Kadaj :lol: ), they're are respectively his best friend and his enemy. Cloud can be more likely in love with Aerith or Tifa (that's why the FF7's LTD is more focused on Cloud/Aerith and Cloud/Tifa interactions... Yuffie and Barrett being just included for fun * and since they're pretty difficult to get for the GS date... they aren't so important people to Cloud )... but Cloud's gay jokes are just jokes. But I kinda agree about one thing with this person : KH games aren't directly related to Final Fantasy. FF characters in KH are the same sort of characters but they just never lived what happened in the FF series. KH does create alternate stories for them. FF characters in KH are in fact just like Aerith from FFTactics. It's her ( same face, same job, same name... ) but it isn't our Aerith who died. However I think that Cloud from FFT isn't an alt-character like her ( from what I understand, some people used a machine and Cloud appeared in their world as a result, so it can totally be a real cross-over there ). |
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| Hikari Seishin | Dec 6 2008, 02:21 PM Post #15 |
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Some kinda rabid...
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Maybe not, but, with KH as well as FF7, it is down to interpretation. I really doubt that the creators thought that Cloud and Leon's relationship was romantic, they're just good friends. I thought it showed Cloud loved Aerith, and vice versa, but thats just IMO. And interpretation, just as the fact that Cloud loves Leon is how you thought it.
Really? I thought he was kinda sweet toward Aerith, in an..embarrased sorta way. And, altho. some lesser games (Such as Itadaki street) and stuff have coupling moments, most likely for fans, KH is still a major title. I dont think they put in anything for fanservice (As much as I like to think seems like Tifa was there for that reason -_- xD) And again, some see it as friendship-y, some see it romantically (Like myself).
It looked to me as if he was embarrased. He couldnt look her because, I think, he was worried about breaking his promise. And I think it's because he loves her. But thats just how I looked at it (I really should replay KH2 ^^;; Ah well, my friend plays KH1 whenever she's at my house, so when she completes it, we'll play KH2! xD) And, if I remember right, the whole "light" thing hasnt been completely solved...has it? Im not flaming this person, I was just thinking about stuff. My friend is a massive yaoi fan, and I really get annoyed when she goes on about KuroganexFai from Tsubasa (I like SakuraxSyaoran, FaixChii and KuroganexTomoyo), so whenever she says it, I say "Just good friends." I love their friendship! Dont get me wrong, I do kinda like yaoi. I read it sometimes (When my friend brings some) But I find it annoying when obviously fanon yaoi pairings (Like YugixKaiba from Yu-Gi-Oh, and SasukexNaruto from Naruto) are seen as canon. Thats ends my little rant, please dont find it offensive ^^;; EDIT: Massive irony: I just went onto DA, and saw a NaruSasu picture. xD It was very well drawn, tho., I gotta say :) |
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I dont believe it is bad you feel that way. I was in awe (in a bad way) when i read it.. Pratically had to force myself to go through reading it just for the curiousity of this person's reason to believe that cloud loves zack romanitaclly. =o Go read more clerith stuff :) Im sure it will make you feel better

Does that mean those pairings are official?!? Hardly. Yes, there's a ton of CidxVincent doujinshi, but as I remember, Cid married Shera. <_<
Please don't make assumptions without understanding the context.


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