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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 3 2006, 08:30 PM (419 Views) | |
| goddess_in_pink07 | Oct 3 2006, 08:30 PM Post #1 |
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Ambrosia
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Music. Such a divine art. Its been used since the beginning of time, and will more than likely always be around. But, their are thousands of types of music. To hard Rock bands, to soothing Meditation music. Through the ages, music has evolved rapidly, becoming more used, and is very easy to have access too. Its in cars, computers, planes, trains, anywhere. And, mostly everyone likes music. It can effect your emotions, or adding more sence and feeling to an event. It also influences people, and can range from sweet, comforting romance to sad, depressing hearbreak... Messages can be delivered by music. Which, can be a problem at times. Mostly common is sex/drugs/violence, which can harmfully influence people, causing them to do many wrong, imature actions. My point: Country bashing. Personally, I find it very taunting. I mean, I understand the whole "freedom of Speech" rule, but goodness..... Is it really appropriate to talk utter trash about your country? Quite a few bands tend to go a bit overboard with my own country: America. My country was built with hard work, and cost many lives. I'm sure our ancestors aren't too proud of their future singing about how red-neck our country is, and all that other stuff. I'm not saying my country is perfect or anything, I'm just saying a country deserves a bit better, ya know? Quite a few country's aren't allowed to have people to speak freely about their country, and people should be thankful for the countries that DO allow freedom of speech, and all those other good things. (not saying all people AREN'T thankful for freedom). If you want to state your opinion, there's a whole world out there to express how you feel about a country. I just don't think its very smart for someone to disrespect a country. Especially when they LIVE IN that country. |
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| Zee | Oct 3 2006, 10:25 PM Post #2 |
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rabbit heart
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Yes. Even though I do think sometimes if people just honestly have nothing good to say about America they should just leave, it's their right to say it. That's what our forefathers fought for. The right to say, "There is something wrong with this country". Especially today, with Bush in office and his administration basically telling us to shut up and swallow his bullshit without question because that's they "patriotic" thing to do. No, it's not. It is the duty of all Americans to stand up and make a fuss when they feel something's wrong. I shouldn't have to keep silent. If I'm an American living in America and I see something that pisses me off then it's my right to say it. That's why I love my country. |
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| Sadhana | Oct 3 2006, 11:05 PM Post #3 |
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capitalism is dead
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If anyone were to ask me my least favorite phrase, it would be, "America: love it or leave it." If anyone were to ask me my favorite phrase, it would be, "Dissent is patriotic." Honestly, I don't see what's wrong with saying that you don't like your country. Although, hating the country itself is often confused with not supporting some of its practices. Keeping this within the context of music, a song like "American Idiot" is more critical of the current administration running this country (and those backing it) rather than the country iself. One lyric in particular, "I'm not a part of a red-neck agenda," I think, is dealing with the idea that Bush is using his office as a force to push forward his agenda, hence the "red-neck agenda." To further elaborate this difference between hating your country and wanting to change your country, I turn back to my favorite phrase. Dissent is patriotic. I agree with this wholeheartedly. This embodies the thought that those who see the country they love being led in the wrong direction and make an effort to change it are the true patriots. They love the country so much that they are willing to stand up and root out the corruption eroding the country's foundations. Putting this in an American context, I don't think it's wrong at all to release a song like "American Idiot." Green Day clearly doesn't like the direction that Bush is taking us, and we must remember that Bush, while he may be leading this country at the moment, is not America. It's not unpatriotic to support him. For those in general who just don't like the Constitution, the ideals of our fore fathers, and so forth (those things that really represent America), I find nothng inappropriate with them voiciferating this opinion. No matter what, "I may disagree with what you say, but I'll fight like hell for your right to say it." Our freedom of speech is, personally, my most highly prized liberty. If these people want to exercise that right, even if it involves praising Bush or something else I strongly disagree with, there is nothing more appropriate or American for them to do just that. |
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| Angelic Blue | Oct 25 2006, 06:13 AM Post #4 |
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The only part that bugs me is when people sing about how evil their country and "the system" are when they just do that, sing, and do absolutely nothing else about or can't even think of a decent reason FOR their opinions or come up with evidence on their case. (In case you haven't noticed, I'm mostly referring to that "hardcore punk" crap. It's got an awesome sound in my opinion, but most bands need to grow up in their lyrics and ideals.) |
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| Nightmare | Oct 25 2006, 07:00 AM Post #5 |
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Mrs. George Harrison D:
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Certainly yes. There are criticisms of each country and as far as I know, a civillian can witness what are these criticisms that revolves around in his or her own community. "The press cuts down good trees to make bad articles." It is true, here in the Philippines, to be honest everyone here are in rage, trying to accuse those people in the government graft and corruption, the reason why the country's so poor(don't kill me, a lot of Filipino jsut said it!) I agree with Sadhana, for telling that it's not the country, the ruler, tempation lurks in office since you're the head of a country. Though not only it's the ruler, citizens can't unite nor understand each other's state of being due to lack of increase of work and poverty. |
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| Amathala | Oct 25 2006, 11:35 AM Post #6 |
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Snoogans!
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Ah, but as goddess said, Music is a form of expression, and what better way to get your thoughts/feelings across to other people who may feel ashamed to say the same, than to put it in a song that a lot of people will listen to? I dont mind those kinds of songs at all. IMO, it's good to know that even when there are some people out there who are scared to death to voice their opinion because of ridicule from others, some artist will come out with a song that you can just listen/hum/sing to, that will help you release your feelings. |
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| Zeletina | Oct 25 2006, 09:20 PM Post #7 |
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panem et circenses
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There are those who hate the U.S. so much and incessantly bash this country, but don't do anything to try and make a change for the better. If you want change, YOU have to take action!! If you hate the country so much you don't have to live there.
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