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On The Way To A Smile; Just wana make sure is that Aeris?
Topic Started: Feb 23 2006, 02:52 PM (983 Views)
Anastar
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cloud_n_aerith_strife
Feb 28 2006, 03:02 AM
I haven't played the game in forever, so I have no clue who Johnny is, but I remember a little.

Johnny was seen in several places during FFVII. He was outside the Seventh Heaven when Cloud gets to sector 7. He was also seen outside the Honeybee Inn (where he thinks that Aerith is Cloud's girlfriend). Then he's also seen in a room in Costa del Sol. Tifa talks with Johnny there. Here's some banners that were made for the Tru Wub Tifohnny club, with pictures of Johnny on them:

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The top banner is a picture of Johnny in a room at Costa del Sol where he talks to Tifa. That's not really Tifa in the shower, but it sure looks like it! :lmao:

cloud_n_aerith_strife
 
I'm curious what did the translation say that it was misinterpreted?

I found it on this page in the thread about "On The Way To A Smile". Remember, this is the first translation we got:

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After the Seventh Town was destroyed two years ago, Tifa made a new Seventh Heaven within the town of Edge. At that time, Johnny, which is to the group of people who have been unable to decide on the road he should take to impress those who are living such as the strong woman, named Tifa. Johnny, at one time loved her, yet she never answered to his love, which taught him to respect Tifa and leave her be. From this the town Seventh Heaven was remade, as a story known as the rebirth of Johnny would be told, over and over, changing each time.

As a result, you would first think of Tifa to be with the customers, yet she remained with child she recieved from Johnny, which thought the boy was special. But Johnny was unable to care for the child. The name of the child was Denzel., which soon became apart of Tifa Lockheart's family. Although Johnny apologizes for leaving Denzel there with her, Denzel shifted his attention to a table which was distant from which he stood.

The part I highlighted in blue is the mistranslation. Doesn't it sound like Denzel's the child of Tifa and Johnny? :lmao:
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cloud_n_aerith_strife
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lol yes it does, so Johnny is actually mentioned in the story then, that's interesting. Awwwwww he loves Tifa, but he respects her enough since she didn't seem to share the same feelilngs for him. Poor guy! Well maybe it will happen for him since Cloud doesn't seem to be interested in her like that.
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Actually I'm very curious why SE suddenly write a story that was Johnny in inside it... since he was like a character that affect nothing in the story... <_<

So, I guess SE was planning to create a new story which will talk about Johnny :P ...and hope there will be something that connected to Tifa. If not, feel really poor for him :(
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I think they used Johnny because he was a conveniently canon but, for the most part, unknown character. There's no real necessity to build up a backstory for him, as the game already gave him that, and that saves time.

People would also not scream bloody murder if they knew that Johnny survived AC and DC. Note that the narration in CoD takes place after AC and DC-- if SE had used someone like Cloud, someone from AVALANCHE or even one of the Turks, it would be a spoiler as it would reveal that the character hadn't died in the movie or the game (putting Reeve in there was a minor spoiler for AC itself).

(I remember some people already grumbled when DC was announced to take place after AC, as it proved way before the movie's release that Vincent, at the very least, would survive AC.)

At the risk of sounding mean-- If we know Cloud survives, it's a big deal. But if we know that Johnny survives, so what? :lol:
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cloud_n_aerith_strife
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Johnny sounds like an interesting guy, I really have to read this story
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Lynn
Mar 1 2006, 10:13 AM
People would also not scream bloody murder if they knew that Johnny survived AC and DC. Note that the narration in CoD takes place after AC and DC-- if SE had used someone like Cloud, someone from AVALANCHE or even one of the Turks, it would be a spoiler as it would reveal that the character hadn't died in the movie or the game (putting Reeve in there was a minor spoiler for AC itself).

(I remember some people already grumbled when DC was announced to take place after AC, as it proved way before the movie's release that Vincent, at the very least, would survive AC.)

At the risk of sounding mean-- If we know Cloud survives, it's a big deal. But if we know that Johnny survives, so what? :lol:

But SE used Cloud, Tifa, and Barret in a DoC trailer long before they released On the Way to a Smile. SE showed that trailer even before the release of AC, which was aggravating to say the least. <_<

cloud_n_aerith_strife
 
Johnny sounds like an interesting guy, I really have to read this story

In case you didn't know where the stories are, you can find all three stories translated here: http://xthost.info/ffwebnovel/
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Mar 2 2006, 01:19 PM
But SE used Cloud, Tifa, and Barret in a DoC trailer long before they released On the Way to a Smile. SE showed that trailer even before the release of AC, which was aggravating to say the least. <_<

My only thoughts for that is that SE panicked, wanted to raise interest in the game and decided to screw being careful about Tifa and Barret. :lol: As for Cloud, I remember they showed him riding out on Fenrir, but I think there was some small doubt remaining because they only showed the bike and a blurry view through the dust.

Although my memory is a little screwed up, so if they showed Cloud clearly before AC was released, then I'm left with only one reason left why they chose to include Johnny in CoD-- as a tidbit to those who remember him from the game.

SE seemed to give up being careful about a lot of things. Sephiroth was obviously meant to be a huge spoiler, but everyone started knowing about him way before the movie came out. :rolleyes:
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I just read the story, it was a very good story, Denzel has been through a lot. Yeah I do think he was thinking of Aerith when he was talking about the people who helped him. I read case of Tifa as well that was interesting. I thought it was interesting how she asked Cloud if he loved her, and he woke up with a dubious look and then she said you love Marlene.
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Great_Gospel
Feb 24 2006, 05:02 AM
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-> CoD ( On the way to a smile) ( dialog of 4 yrs after FF VII)

4 years?! What happen? They better not have Cloud and Tifa married. :angry: I like them as friends better.
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in CoD they aren't married, they are still friends. They don't really mention Tifa and Cloud in that story that much though. CoT is interesting though, you see what happened before AC begins.
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in CoD they aren't married, they are still friends. They don't really mention Tifa and Cloud in that story that much though. CoT is interesting though, you see what happened before AC begins.


Yup, I think they aren't married..since u can see that in DoC they are still friend and nomura had said once that the triangle relationship had end up in AC... thus there is nothing happen in DoC nor CoD of Cloud's relationship.... :D
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cloud_n_aerith_strife
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Did he really say that the love triangle relationship ended in AC?
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cloud_n_aerith_strife
Apr 10 2006, 12:11 PM
Did he really say that the love triangle relationship ended in AC?

Nomura said something along the lines that nothing was left hanging in AC, all the answers are there, and the viewer can find them by discussing with others. Something about feelings off the characters can be seen through facial expressions. I don't remember which interview it was.

In other words, Nomura is saying everything is open to interpretation, as usual. :rolleyes:
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cloud_n_aerith_strife
Apr 9 2006, 09:11 PM
Did he really say that the love triangle relationship ended in AC?

No, he hasn't said anything like that, nor do I think he ever will.

yin-chan
Apr 10 2006, 02:06 AM
Nomura said something along the lines that nothing was left hanging in AC, all the answers are there, and the viewer can find them by discussing with others.

He was talking about the game, not AC, since that interview was made before AC was even released.
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